Corporate Socialism or Democratic Socialism

[marym625]

[99th_Monkey]

1. Perfect!! nt

[marym625]

2. my favorite I've seen

Wish I had thought of it

[99th_Monkey]

7. Seriously though

When Sander starts unpacking in detail what he means by Democratic Socialism, I think
this contrast needs to be a constant side-bar theme throughout .. which KIND of Socialism
do you want? The Corporate or the Democratic version? Because right now we're suffering
from way to much of the former, and it's high time to level the playing field.

Government matters, it determines who's taxed, by how much, and where those taxes go,
and who benefits from that investment. But I think the trick will be in how it's communicated,
in simple terms, kind of like Robert Reich has been faithfully doing on YouTube for the past
several years, and how Richard Wolff explains such things. I really hope Sander has Reich
and Wolff near enough to his inner circle to get their counsel and advice as to how to present
Bernie's version of Democratic Socialism to American voters, even voters who are not especially
well-educated or conversant in economic policy.

[marym625]

8. Even Lessig does a good job explaining.

I agree with everything you said. Wholeheartedly

[99th_Monkey]

9. Thanks marym.

But Lessig is running against Bernie right now, and used to be in Bernie's campaign,
which really turned me off to him, kind of a turn-coat IMHO.

And he's running a myopic one-issue campaign that's hard to take very seriously,
except that I suspect it's mainly to try to sell more of his recently published book,
rather than to help Bernie --who has the same policy on CU-- and actually has a
good chance to win this thing.

At this point, if i were Bernie -- if my impression of Lessig is accurate, which I think
is at least in the ball-park -- I would find it difficult to trust Lessig's advice.

[marym625]

11. Good points.

I didn't know he had worked on Bernie's campaign. I take it back now. Thanks for the info

[99th_Monkey]

15. Now you've inspired me to make sure i know wtf i'm talking about

re; Lessig working with Bernie.

I'll do some checking around and get back to you.

Thanks for a great conversation.

[marym625]

19. thank you!

[99th_Monkey]

21. Oh, look what I found, didn't take long.

It's true Lessig worked with Bernie, check out this link
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-larry-lessig-2016-campaign-121280

Have a good sleep.

[marym625]

24. Thank you

Interesting that he doesn't think Bernie is accentuating money in politics enough. That's been a main criticism, that he talks about it too much

Thank you!!!

[99th_Monkey]

22. Love that smilie. nt

[marym625]

25. it's my favorite

Since there's no peace one.

[passiveporcupine]

10. So, what do we want

A guaranteed income for all Americans, to be able to rise above poverty, or a guaranteed income to all corporations, who already have so much money they have to hide it offshore to avoid paying taxes on it.

The answer is pretty easy really...if you are a humanist.

[99th_Monkey]

12. The answer is also easy if you are simply a decent human being, of most any stripe

Decent human beings -- regardless of their label or party or whatever --
have an intuitive sense when they encounter another decent human being.

And there are way more of us out there, eager to vote with a clean conscience,
than the M$M pendants and their Oligarch overlords could ever imagine.

I really think it's such an amazing time to be alive, to see this unfolding. This
is history in the making, and I'm loving it.

[passiveporcupine]

17. Yes, it is exciting, but don't get carried away

It may take a long long time for it to go our way. I know, inevitably, it will...but maybe not in my lifetime.

[99th_Monkey]

18. IMHO all the signs are there. And we all really know deep down, it's now or never

Given the climate change clock tick-tocking, given that CU is being put to the test by
Bernie's amazingly broad small-donor base he's building, given that UK & Canada
have already turned the corner. This IS happening, and yes i AM "carried away" and
loving it.

[passiveporcupine]

23. I have to admit

I'm a little bit carried away too.

There are so many of us...and we just keep growing, don't we?

[appalachiablue]

3. Terrific. I think Corporate Socialism is very, very good. Really grabs you, as much

or more than Corporate Welfare. Heck, use both! Call it what it is-

[marym625]

6. I agree. This one really says it better than anything else I've seen.

Corporate Socialism. Man, should have been using it for YEARS!

[SoapBox]

4. Absolutely.

[marym625]

13. I tried to find a @KathyForBernie on Twitter and couldn't

Not sure where to find the creator. But I just love this

[zazen]

5. awesome! n/t

[marym625]

14. glad you like it

[merrily]

16. Love it! Thanks, mary.

[marym625]

20. Thanks, Merrily!

Wish I could take credit for it.

It's one of those things you see and realize it's just so obvious, I can't believe we haven't been saying it all along

[merrily]

28. You can certainly take credit for the OP!

[marym625]

31. I can!

Ok then! Looky what I found!!!

[merrily]

32. Aren't you the resourceful one!

[marym625]

33. LOL!

Yes! Look at us/me/you seeing something on Twitter! Marily is one hell of a resourceful person!

[JDPriestly]

26. K&R.

[marym625]

27. THANKS, JD!

Seems to be a great way to steer the conversation

[TBF]

29. Excellent - and I know which choice I pick. nt

[marym625]

30. one wonders why everyone wouldn't pick Democratic Socialism

Over Corporate Socialism.

[ErikJ]

34. K & R