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Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:38 PM

Webb and other stuff

So I watched Morning Joe this week while getting ready for a meeting out of town and I saw Webb posed a very simple question, "Are you in favor of raising the minimum wage to $15/hour?" He went on to discuss a two step problem with yammity yammity and never answered yes or no. Now I just see an article where he says the voters including Sanders and Trump supporters will calm down after awhile (and assuming we will vote for him). Well, after seeing that non-answer, count me out for Webb. Kind of moot anyway, not like he had a chance, I think he is in the race simply to apply for a WH job.

Okay on to some other stuff:

At my firm, we have major conservatives and a large group of dedicated Democrats. Many of these people view me as an opinion leader and some of the right wingers asked me what I thought of Trump. My answer, "He's fantastic!, I actually kind of like him, he is tapping into the pissed off middle class in a funny way" They are a bit surprised by that statement and I was lying to them completely of course.

Then, one of my Democratic friends told me that he was afraid of Sanders when I told him that was who I was supporting. His fear comes from a sense that Bernie is anti-business. It is that whole 'socialist' thing from people who don't take a very close look. I did what I could and will continue, but I sense that I will run into this a lot with my lefty pro-business co-workers. I must swing these people. I can and I will.

Also, I compare this election to the McKinley election. Back in those days, you had one candidate who was Corporate Plan A, and another who was Corporate Plan B, but in that election you had Teddy Roosevelt scaring the heck out of the likes of J P Morgan, Stanton, etc.. so they cut a deal and made TR the VP rolling the dice, trying to bury him in that role. Then McKinley was assassinated, the Corp crowd went nuts and in the next election went after TR who formed the Bull Moose party and was elected anyway. very similar situation to what we have today economically to those times.

While Bernie is a little different, I think of these elections as Corporately controlled takeovers, with Plan A and Plan B candidates. It's a okay this guy is our Corp dream candidate, this one we could live with....

Now, its a loose cannon 1%er who actually advocates raising taxes via tariffs scaring the bejesus out of the 1% and Bernie Sanders, who you know scares the hell out of them. If both of these guys get nominated, the Corporations have little skin in the game (certainly more with Trump, but they have no clue what he would do)

oh, and yeah I know this post is a bit all over the place, I am seriously jet lagged.


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Response to SandersDem (Original post)

Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:37 PM

1. Jet lag cool

 

I first saw Webb on MacNeil/Lehrer in the eighties. I was impressed and never forgot him. I believe he was appointed Secretary of the Navy.

I was glad he came over to the Democratc Party ...2006..I forget.

But he is a Republican with Republican values. He joined us because they were so crazy.

It's a good comparison..McKinley.

My wife travels like you do and gives me good stories about conservatives.

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Response to rusty quoin (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:41 AM

2. I think Webb joined "us" because "we" asked him to run against George Allen,

despite Webb's very questionable history re: women and his nostalgic fondness for the "white culture" of the Scots Irish in the South.

I don't recall his being a Democrat before he ran for the US Senate as a Democrat. Supposedly, there was a totally spontaneous groundswell from the internet for him to run. I wouldn't take that to the bank.

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Response to SandersDem (Original post)

Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:45 AM

3. Thank you. I'll take your "seriously jet lagged" posts any day of the week.

IOW, please never hesitate to post.

"Also, I compare this election to the McKinley election. Back in those days, you had one candidate who was Corporate Plan A, and another who was Corporate Plan B...."

IOW, the more things change, the more they stay the same (as the French supposedly say).

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Tue Aug 25, 2015, 12:45 PM

4. I remember "Rules of Engagement": then my German blood clicked in and made me change the channel

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