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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 01:23 PM Jul 2015

Commentary: Yes, Bernie Sanders Could Beat Hillary Clinton

By Todd Domke

Months ago, I wrote a commentary asking “Can Bernie Sanders beat expectations?” He has surged in the polls since then, prompting pundits to dub this the “summer of Sanders.” So the question now is: Can Bernie Sanders beat Hillary Clinton?

Most political analysts say he has no real chance; arguing, in effect, that the political deck is stacked against him. They contend he can’t raise enough money; he is too little known; and as a self-described “democratic socialist,” he can’t appeal to many non-progressive voters.

James Pindell, an astute reporter for The Boston Globe, explained that “voters’ summer flings with candidates typically don’t last” — in past election cycles there have been such surges by other anti-establishment candidates, only to lose to better-funded, more “mainstream” pols.

But to conclude that little-known upstarts never beat the odds would be ignoring nominees like George McGovern, Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama.

Sanders is sometimes compared to Eugene McCarthy who, in 1968, did better than expected in the New Hampshire primary against President Lyndon Johnson. That led to Robert F. Kennedy entering the race, and LBJ announcing that he would not seek reelection. McCarthy and Kennedy split the anti-Vietnam War vote during the primaries, and after RFK’s assassination, Vice President Hubert Humphrey, the establishment candidate, won. But what would have happened if Kennedy had not entered the race, and it was only a two-man contest between McCarthy and Humphrey? We’ll never know, so the argument that Sanders is another McCarthy doesn’t really apply if the Vermont senator is able to keep his status as the only Democrat who can compete with the establishment candidate, Hillary Clinton.

The Clinton camp now admits to being worried about the Sanders threat. They fear that he could beat her in the Iowa caucuses. The New York Times reported that Clinton advisers were surprised by the Sanders surge:

“Mr. Sanders’ rising fortunes pose a bind for the Clinton team,” the Times reported. “Directly challenging the senator on his policies and record could elevate his candidacy, alienate some liberal Democrats and make Mrs. Clinton look anxious. Yet continuing the current strategy — vigorously courting voters while hoping they conclude that Mr. Sanders is unelectable — requires Mrs. Clinton to put faith in an Iowa electorate that snubbed her seven years ago, choosing Mr. Obama and Mr. (John) Edwards over her.”

In New Hampshire, Sanders has been so encouraged by polls and crowds that he predicts he’ll win his neighboring state. Indeed, he now predicts, “We’re going to win Iowa, New Hampshire, the nomination and the presidency.”

Many surging candidates make the mistake of believing that their momentum is unstoppable — but then they make a gaffe, or some economic or military development suddenly makes them look not quite qualified to be president. And then the surge becomes a quick slide downward.

Still, the Sanders surge isn’t necessarily a fad. Many Democratic voters “feel the Bern” and they resent jibes by Washington insiders who denigrate Sanders as a temporary phenomenon.

More here: http://www.wbur.org/2015/07/10/commentary-sanders-could-beat-clinton

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Commentary: Yes, Bernie Sanders Could Beat Hillary Clinton (Original Post) Playinghardball Jul 2015 OP
"Think big!" n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #1
Bernie is in it to win it and I believe he will....n/t monmouth4 Jul 2015 #2
K&R! marym625 Jul 2015 #3
Well said. RoccoR5955 Jul 2015 #4
When is the 'Bernie Man Festival'... Marty McGraw Jul 2015 #5
BernieMan Festival! cui bono Jul 2015 #7
Please, send this around. I'll help! Wonderful, I love it! appalachiablue Jul 2015 #12
Need to fire up the old printer... Marty McGraw Jul 2015 #15
I totally think he can win it all. cui bono Jul 2015 #6
What I hope makes him Marty McGraw Jul 2015 #9
The insiders need to get out more. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #8
My first 'lol' today, thanks. nt chknltl Jul 2015 #11
The summer, autumn, winter, spring, next summer & autumn and the next four years of Sanders Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #10
+1 That's the spirit! Can't keep a liberal down for long! appalachiablue Jul 2015 #14
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #13
Sanders refuses to use Republican ammo to attack HRC Babel_17 Jul 2015 #16
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
4. Well said.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jul 2015

This always happens. The person who is the "presumed" leader gets overconfident, and what happens?
Before you know it, the challenger is right at his/her back, then takes the lead.
I believe this is what is happening in the Democratic Party now.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
5. When is the 'Bernie Man Festival'...
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 03:30 PM
Jul 2015

expecting to come back to the Left Coast?





Ha! Nevermind Burning Man. Would be awesome if he booked a speech during one of these:

http://www.greenfestivals.org/la/los-angeles-2015


appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
12. Please, send this around. I'll help! Wonderful, I love it!
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 04:14 PM
Jul 2015



Feel the BERN! Really!

BernieMan Festival!!

Revenge of the Liberals. Hell Hath No Fury Like a Liberal Scorned!

Out of the Wilderness and Banishment! Free at last!

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
6. I totally think he can win it all.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 03:31 PM
Jul 2015

But I think the article is ill-worded when it says that he is "predicting" it. All candidates say they are going to win when they campaign. Why would they not? That's the whole point of being in the race.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
9. What I hope makes him
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 03:41 PM
Jul 2015

different than the rest of the (D)'s, that he goes in with 100% Full Blown Spirit and no more of this Half Spirited Crap. He Can do it too because he has 100% Legitimacy behind him instead of prop & fluff. The (R)'s are just psychopaths and are completely detached of the 'Spirit' thing and can only run with hate, spit & Greed of everybody else they can't lick greenbacks off their balls.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
10. The summer, autumn, winter, spring, next summer & autumn and the next four years of Sanders
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 03:47 PM
Jul 2015

Bernie's not going away and neither are we.

appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
14. +1 That's the spirit! Can't keep a liberal down for long!
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 04:17 PM
Jul 2015

Revenge of the Liberals, Hell Hath No Fury...We Told You So, dammit!

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
16. Sanders refuses to use Republican ammo to attack HRC
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 11:09 AM
Jul 2015

Senator Sanders won't use personal attacks, or any nonsense drummed up by the Republican smear machine.

Long story short, I see Clinton as facing only one opponent, one who has ideas that are very popular with a lot of a very vocal Democratic base, and a lot of very popular online journalists.

What Senator Sanders is proposing is going to have to be addressed. And what Secretary Clinton is proposing will be addressed in detail by Sanders. Their primary fight will be about their programs, and their passion. It will be a non-stop engagement, and all across the board as everyone will be posting their reactions and commentary.

This primary fight will engage the nation and most general election voters will be captivated by it. Our party will look impressive, and I expect Senator Sanders to soar in popularity across all the key demographics.

The interests that have been renting out our government will look scared and that too will help us. Our party doesn't have to have their money in order for a popular uprising to elect a game changer.



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