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Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
4. What I like is how Snopes made the effort to lay the story out
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:04 PM
May 2016

The journalist Jon Ralston is shown, imo, to owe a comprehensive retraction.

But every time the media unites in getting behind a false narrative, they seem to also close ranks around not pointing fingers when the narrative falls apart. Until the levee breaks by the least culpable/non-culpable writing about it, and then everybody wants to tell their side.

Jon Ralston is the man in the middle here. He had the credibility to take the scant reporting and turn it into a unified package that would spread. He knew his level of influence, but he neglected to do much fact checking. I guess he's so liked and respected that there's a hesitancy to write the kind of postmortem to the sorry level of reporting the media indulged in that will inevitably paint him in an unflattering light.

Lol, and that brings us to another story worth reporting, the way the media hates reporting on its own flaws.

leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
3. This is what I thought.
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:56 PM
May 2016

I've been visiting my Dad and came home to this latest outrage. I thought
oh yeah where's the video? I saw the one with the chair raised and that was it.
I figured it was another Hillbot/MSM lie. Glad Snopes looked into it.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
8. The paper, along with The New York Times, that wanted to downplay the anniversary of invading Iraq
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:57 PM
May 2016

With ethics like that I'm not holding my breath.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
9. I'm expecting the Post to generate a "fact check" claiming the incident actually did happen.
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:02 PM
May 2016

Johnathan Capehart and the Post's editorial board have gone into the business of creating their own subjective facts about Bernie this year.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
10. Feelings are real, so it follows that if a journalist feels it happened, ...
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:05 PM
May 2016

or if Barbara Boxer claims to have felt it happen, then for purposes of click bait journalism, it did.

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Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
13. Made me laugh
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:31 PM
May 2016

The reactionaries ... react. Even if it's something basically innocuous posted, it must be swarmed on.

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Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
15. Thanks for posting it in GD:P
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:53 PM
May 2016

I don't have anyone on ignore and I'm inclined to not ignore replies. That requires patience and serenity when trying to deal fairly with those who are somewhat inclined to irritate by their post, and/or derail a thread.

Ironically, by disinclining me to post more threads, I assuage my displeasure at the posting experience by making more frequent (small) donations. It was also something of an influence for my canvassing day after day, and for phone banking. I like to think I still would have done both, but it was a great go to way of helping to put disruptive posts into perspective. Whatever fractional bit of "a victory" such did for their candidate is vastly outdone, in my eyes, by anything positive I do for the Sanders campaign.

Secretary Clinton has achieved a large part of her success in the primary due to the vast inertia of her name recognition and having the party establishment behind her. The press has whored itself out for the easy cash of having Trump in town, and that too helped Clinton. Our feeble press can't chew gum and talk about Sanders while it's chortling over Trump.

I just don't see her supporters in action in real life. Brock will have to give away the bumper stickers, and offer inducements to make them appear in great numbers. To call a lot of her support as being "resigned" is something of an understatement.

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