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CaliforniaPeggy

(149,296 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:50 PM Jul 2015

Thanks to another member, I am now firmly in the Bernie Sanders camp.

Her unwavering support of HRC has caused me to realize that this is where I belong.

I have subscribed to this group, and I expect to post here now and then.

Go Bernie!





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Thanks to another member, I am now firmly in the Bernie Sanders camp. (Original Post) CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 OP
Happy you are here. It's where you belong. Cleita Jul 2015 #1
Welcome! LiberalElite Jul 2015 #2
My dear, CaliforniaPeggy! We are happy to have you! smokey nj Jul 2015 #3
Dear Peggy. Autumn Jul 2015 #4
Thanks for the warm welcomes, everybody! I have to go make dinner now, and I'll check in later! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #5
CP, your endorsement is far more valuable than FlatBaroque Jul 2015 #6
Some people are determined to make enemies Warpy Jul 2015 #7
I've got a thing or two to say about that in light of recent events here on the board. Tobin S. Jul 2015 #9
You don't remember 2008? It was horrible Warpy Jul 2015 #11
I was a moderator then awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #100
I'm not sure I'm following you, Peggy, but welcome to the group. Tobin S. Jul 2015 #8
I don't post in here much but I've joined and read a good bit Fumesucker Jul 2015 #10
CP, you are a highly sought after prize IMO. I'm so glad you joined us. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #12
The Cool Kids welcome you Kalidurga Jul 2015 #13
Welcome, CP. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #14
Welcome aboard, Peg. Jack Rabbit Jul 2015 #15
Welcome! swilton Jul 2015 #16
Let's Rock Peggy! Indepatriot Jul 2015 #17
Welcome :) nt abelenkpe Jul 2015 #18
Been a Bernie fan for at least 10 years project_bluebook Jul 2015 #19
Life around us can help define our politics Babel_17 Jul 2015 #20
I am happy you are here California Peggy. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #21
It's you marym625 Jul 2015 #54
Welcome to the Dark Side MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #22
LOL passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #23
So happy to see you here with us, CP! ms liberty Jul 2015 #24
My dearest Peggy! Bonobo Jul 2015 #25
Excellent! Welcome! peacebird Jul 2015 #26
Welcome. And like Bernie would say... Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #27
Great news! Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #28
..... madfloridian Jul 2015 #29
Thanks to that whole exchange, I am too tularetom Jul 2015 #30
Could you please link me to what you are speaking of. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #67
I looked but I couldn't find it tularetom Jul 2015 #72
Thank you. I get the gist of it now. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #73
It's painful to see gentle DUers like California Peggy and Omaha Steve treated poorly, esp. given merrily Jul 2015 #77
+ a few thousand. N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2015 #90
You are very welcome. jwirr Jul 2015 #31
Hey CP! NRaleighLiberal Jul 2015 #32
Awww...good to see you here, my dear NRL! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #35
Yes, for many reasons, Bernie is by far the most appealing candidate to me. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2015 #42
I'm 100% Team Bernie, too! lbrtbell Jul 2015 #33
Yay! SoapBox Jul 2015 #34
I'm in the South Bay too...........not far from LAX! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #37
I will do! SoapBox Jul 2015 #65
I’m heading there from NY tomorrow! dorkzilla Jul 2015 #84
I hope the sun will be out--it's been overcast for some time. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #88
Too late for June gloom, huh? dorkzilla Jul 2015 #98
The sun is usually out in July........and today is no exception! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #99
hi!!! glinda Jul 2015 #36
Welcome CP Nite Owl Jul 2015 #38
Thanks! I hope they will be. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #39
So happy to have you. onecaliberal Jul 2015 #40
We must be kind to the Hillary-supporters nikto Jul 2015 #41
Yes, we do need to be kind. After all, we are ALL Democrats. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #43
I would think, most would not ... nikto Jul 2015 #104
I sorta feel sorry for some of them Mnpaul Jul 2015 #58
And she's frozen into that stance, too nikto Jul 2015 #105
Good to see you, Peggy. LuvNewcastle Jul 2015 #44
For my first post in the group Mira Jul 2015 #45
I'm so glad to see you, dear Mira! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #46
Now you've got us all wondering truebluegreen Jul 2015 #47
Why do I think I know who that was? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #48
Same exact thing happened to me about 2 weeks ago... Javaman Jul 2015 #49
So glad to have you on board. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #50
This is the best news! marym625 Jul 2015 #51
Uh-oh! There goes the neighborhood! immoderate Jul 2015 #52
Welcome Pilgrim! RoccoR5955 Jul 2015 #53
This is a movement. I think a lot of people will decide to get onboard. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #55
I'm for Bernie blue cat Jul 2015 #56
Glad to see you here, CaliforniaPeggy. TDale313 Jul 2015 #57
You rock, girlfriend! n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #59
... CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #60
Welcome! TM99 Jul 2015 #61
. LWolf Jul 2015 #62
Welcome! kenfrequed Jul 2015 #63
This indeed is where you belong. Paka Jul 2015 #64
I couldn't be happier than to hear this. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #66
Welcome Peggy davidpdx Jul 2015 #68
California Peggy, you grace any group that you join. merrily Jul 2015 #69
Peggy, your heart definitely belongs here - TBF Jul 2015 #70
Funny gaspee Jul 2015 #71
actually looking back to the 07 primaries questionseverything Jul 2015 #94
What attacks, specifically, have rubbed you the wrong way? [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2015 #102
Oh hells yeah my dear CaliforniaPeggy! lonestarnot Jul 2015 #74
Yay! IronLionZion Jul 2015 #75
From one Californian to another... KansDem Jul 2015 #76
Welcome! deutsey Jul 2015 #78
Welcome aboard! blondie58 Jul 2015 #79
Dear CaliforniaPeggy: HappyPlace Jul 2015 #80
Wow, thank you so much, my dear HappyPlace! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #81
YAY!!! You go girl!!!! dorkzilla Jul 2015 #82
Welcome aboard NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #83
Glad that you have joined the Bernie camp. Curmudgeoness Jul 2015 #85
Glad to hear! I sometimes despair we're outmatched closeupready Jul 2015 #86
The people will make it happen. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jul 2015 #87
Welcome to your home! ... N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2015 #89
But will you adopt the fringe hair style . . . R. P. McMurphy Jul 2015 #91
Dear California Peggy. You rock! GoneOffShore Jul 2015 #92
Coming from you makes me very happy LittleGirl Jul 2015 #93
Welcome CaliforniaPeggy! denvine Jul 2015 #95
That's awesome CP!!! cui bono Jul 2015 #96
to those asking people to post DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #97
Welcome aboard, my dear Peggy awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #101
Wow - when you lose CaliforniaPeggy, there's definitely a movement afoot tomm2thumbs Jul 2015 #103

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
3. My dear, CaliforniaPeggy! We are happy to have you!
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:53 PM
Jul 2015

Friday is karaoke night. Don't even think about doing "MacArthur Park" hootinholler called permanent dibs.

Warpy

(110,900 posts)
7. Some people are determined to make enemies
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:59 PM
Jul 2015

for their favorite candidates, and it's not limited to Clinton, sad to say.

My ignore list is growing, and that's with GD-P already safely binned.

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
9. I've got a thing or two to say about that in light of recent events here on the board.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:18 PM
Jul 2015

Too bad we don't have a meta forum anymore. But, yeah, there's been plenty of nastiness around here lately and it seems to be more potent than in primaries past. I'm a pretty low key poster, and I'm not very prolific now days, but I think all it takes is a look at my avatar to draw contention no matter what I'm posting about. I have no doubt that some Hillary supporters feel the same way.

Warpy

(110,900 posts)
11. You don't remember 2008? It was horrible
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:24 PM
Jul 2015

and would have torn DU apart without GD-P.

I know some forums out there it did wreck.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
100. I was a moderator then
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:14 PM
Jul 2015

I've seen more civil shit flinging fights in the primate cage . I will be avoiding GD-P like the plague

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
8. I'm not sure I'm following you, Peggy, but welcome to the group.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:08 PM
Jul 2015

Bernie is the most progressive candidate we are going to have this time around. That kind of candidate will always get my vote.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
14. Welcome, CP.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:35 PM
Jul 2015

Glad you're here. We've got a really cool, energetic and dedicated group here. You'll like it.

 

project_bluebook

(411 posts)
19. Been a Bernie fan for at least 10 years
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:51 PM
Jul 2015

He will fire up the American voter.


Bernie the Underdog, speed of lightning, roar of thunder , fighting all who rob or plunder (republicans)

ms liberty

(8,478 posts)
24. So happy to see you here with us, CP!
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:24 PM
Jul 2015

I've been a Bernie fan since the late 90's, and he is the real deal. I never expected him to run for POTUS, just loved him in the House & Senate. I'm thrilled to see him in the race - I believe he can win it all, but even if he didn't win the nomination he will ensure that the issues we care about will be discussed, at least on the Democratic side.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
25. My dearest Peggy!
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:26 PM
Jul 2015

I could not be happier than to have your sweet soul on board.

I am feeling more sure now that this is the right path.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
27. Welcome. And like Bernie would say...
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:30 PM
Jul 2015

This is not about Bernie Sanders. This is about people coming together to make a government that works for us.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
72. I looked but I couldn't find it
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:46 AM
Jul 2015

It was a back and forth between CP and a rather rude supporter of another candidate in which some intemperate remarks were made by this other poster. You'd recognize the name.

I'm not trying to be coy but I'd prefer to let CP herself decide how much of this exchange she wants to discuss. Maybe you could PM her and ask.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
77. It's painful to see gentle DUers like California Peggy and Omaha Steve treated poorly, esp. given
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 11:15 AM
Jul 2015

what OS confided in DUers in his farewell post of not long ago.

NRaleighLiberal

(59,940 posts)
42. Yes, for many reasons, Bernie is by far the most appealing candidate to me.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:50 PM
Jul 2015

All of the reasons are based on principles, various historical positions of each candidate and his apparent positions on the issues.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
98. Too late for June gloom, huh?
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:32 PM
Jul 2015

Oh well, it’s been overcast here too for weeks but I’m one of those odd ones that loves overcast!

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,296 posts)
99. The sun is usually out in July........and today is no exception!
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:39 PM
Jul 2015

It's a beautiful day, blue skies, puffy clouds and abundant sunlight!

It should be like that all weekend!

We do sometimes have night and morning low clouds. But they burn off by noon or so. Normally!

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
41. We must be kind to the Hillary-supporters
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:48 PM
Jul 2015

Hillary is going to LOSE, bigtime. That is already becoming clear.
The tsunami is approaching, and Hillary ain't any part of it.

But the Hillary-folks can't see it yet, and
they are going to take it hard.

Maybe they will take it so hard, they'll just have to vote GOP, eh?
Then, we'll really know who's who, won't we?

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,296 posts)
43. Yes, we do need to be kind. After all, we are ALL Democrats.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:51 PM
Jul 2015

I hope they won't go so far as to vote Republican. That would be awful and counterproductive.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
104. I would think, most would not ...
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 02:40 AM
Jul 2015

But I am certain, a few will.


Trolls, mostly. Posing as Dems.

IMO, there are some here.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
58. I sorta feel sorry for some of them
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:52 PM
Jul 2015

Hillary isn't giving them much to work with. Dodging the press and weak, general statements doesn't make for much excitement.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
105. And she's frozen into that stance, too
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 02:45 AM
Jul 2015

That's why her candidacy's toast, eventually.




Hillary would do much better if she were attacked with merely slime, like Monica Lewinsky references,
Benghazi, etc etc

But Bernie's policy-stands, in their clarity and frankness, are far more damaging to Hillary, because they
unmistakeably reveal Hillary's lack of substance, and need to "Me-Too" everything that
sounds good, instead of having an actual belief-system to govern by (which I feel she has permanently
abandoned for expediency, and friendship with elite$).

LuvNewcastle

(16,820 posts)
44. Good to see you, Peggy.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:51 PM
Jul 2015

It's funny how much people can influence us in ways they never know. It's like showing up at a party where everybody seems to be friendly with someone you detest. You know you'd better get out when you see that shit.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
47. Now you've got us all wondering
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:06 PM
Jul 2015

just who that other member is...I have a list of candidates; maybe a drinking game is in order!

Javaman

(62,435 posts)
49. Same exact thing happened to me about 2 weeks ago...
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:19 PM
Jul 2015

A Hillary supporter was just hell bent on changing my mind no matter what.

at the time, I was leaning toward Bernie, but the supporter got so crazy, that I had to block them.

Their reaction was so over the top, it just pushed me further to support Bernie.

I honestly don't know how hostility works as a way to change peoples minds.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
51. This is the best news!
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:41 PM
Jul 2015

California Peggy! The dearest woman on DU that can also say Fuck it! If need be!



<- that's the Bernie bounce!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
55. This is a movement. I think a lot of people will decide to get onboard.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:44 PM
Jul 2015

This isn't just about Sen Sanders running for president, it's much bigger. It's catching on around the world. The 99% are tired fo carrying the load for the 1% and are starting to stand up to the tyrants. HRC isn't a tyrant, but IMO she isn't the one to fight the tyrants.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
57. Glad to see you here, CaliforniaPeggy.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:50 PM
Jul 2015

Bernie's a candidate I can feel very good about supporting. There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear...

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
61. Welcome!
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:12 AM
Jul 2015

Honestly, if I was not already a Sanders supporter, the behavior of some of the HRC candidates would have pushed me to look at him more seriously as well.

And once you do so, it is easy to realize he is the genuine progressive and part Democratic candidate.

So glad to see more support Sanders!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
68. Welcome Peggy
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:37 AM
Jul 2015

I think many of us have been tired of the attacks by the Clinton supporters. Up until the other day I had been wavering on whether I was going to wait another month to decide who I was going to support, but have leaned toward Sanders. So I'm new as well and made my first donation right before the deadline.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
69. California Peggy, you grace any group that you join.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:31 AM
Jul 2015

You are one of the loveliest posters on this board.

While I am grateful for any additional supporters of Senator Senators, though, please do not choose a candidate based on the behavior of his or her supporters. The two things are not related.

When the time comes to propose, sign or veto a bill, or ask Congress for a war vote (heaven forbid), or negotiate a treaty about the environment, it won't be some pleasant or nasty DUer doing that. It will be the politician. Please make the choice on that basis.

TBF

(31,919 posts)
70. Peggy, your heart definitely belongs here -
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:50 AM
Jul 2015

you have so much kindness to share and Bernie is a candidate who is worth backing. Like you I am not hurting terribly at present, but I grew up poor and I see the middle class (that allowed me to prosper) being destroyed around me. It is time for us to give back and we can do that by supporting Bernie. ((Peggy))

gaspee

(3,231 posts)
71. Funny
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:34 AM
Jul 2015

I'm having the exact opposite experience - I've been on board with Bernie since the day he announced. Been a fan for years, and being a New Englander I've had a lot more exposure to him than many who live in other parts of the country.

Here's the thing - I do not hate Clinton. And I'm getting disgusted with the attacks on her. One of the reasons I like Bernie so much is that he concerns himself with himself and doesn't attack anyone.

I am a socialist - and not a Democratic Socialist but an Old School Socialist. I am voting Bernie in the primaries but I do not believe enough other people will, just yet. I'm hoping that they do, but if they don't and Clinton is the nominee, all of this hatred of her being spewed on an hourly basis is going to do nothing to make sure a republican doesn't win.

The best way to get Bernie nominated is to spread his message, not make attacks on Clinton that sound like they come from the deranged right wing.

And I would never let the behavior of anyone's supporters change my vote. Never.

I'm thinking big picture though and these vitriolic attacks on Clinton help no one but republicans.

I've been limiting my DU to LBN and a couple of groups I enjoy reading.

questionseverything

(9,631 posts)
94. actually looking back to the 07 primaries
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:42 PM
Jul 2015

clintons threw everything but the kitchen sink at obama,which sure took the wind out of repubs being able to do it

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
78. Welcome!
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 11:55 AM
Jul 2015

I've been lurking a lot lately because I enjoy my sanity too much to get all swept up in DU drama.

So, I didn't see the exchange you had, although I can guess what it was like.

I hope you find a safe haven here and a place of inspiration!

blondie58

(2,570 posts)
79. Welcome aboard!
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:10 PM
Jul 2015

So nice to see you, sweet lady.

And I will also vote for the nominee. But I want that person to be Bernie!

I like Hillary, i Really do, and we are way Past due for a woman. But she Really is more of the Same. I never cared for her Support of Monsanto and the GMO's.

🌹

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
80. Dear CaliforniaPeggy:
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:20 PM
Jul 2015

I am a big fan of your thoughtful posts and, having just become a member of this site this morning, wanted to make my very first post a reply to your OP.

You and others like you bring so much to this community and I don't know that you realize how important it is to have folks like you, H2O Man, Omaha Steve, and so many others here.

(((((Peggy)))))

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,296 posts)
81. Wow, thank you so much, my dear HappyPlace!
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:23 PM
Jul 2015

You have touched my heart with your thoughtful and caring post. I am deeply honored that your very first post is a response to my OP.

Welcome to DU! May you post and have fun for many, many years!



dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
82. YAY!!! You go girl!!!!
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:34 PM
Jul 2015

I will not speak disrespectfully of Ms. Clinton. She well may be “our” candidate and I don’t feel like doing the opposition research for the GOP by listing the myriad reasons why I will not support her in the primary. Bernie won’t speak against her, and I think that we should follow his lead. That is my personal opinion.

But DAMN that Bernie - - I’ve loved him for years, never thought he would run and now that he is I couldn’t be happier or more enthusiastic about a candidate. He REALLY does stand out from the crowd, and I am sure, if people REALLY listened, they’d agree with him over any other candidate.

It does not matter one jot that we think one of them will have a “better chance” of winning over whomever the GOP candidate may be. I think its high time we ALL realize that WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF OUR PARTY and NOW IS THE TIME. If we don’t do it now, I fear our opportunity will vanish before our eyes. We must take this risk or put future generations squarely behind the 8 ball.

I have such respect and admiration for you, whether or not you came over to the “dark” side but I am pleased as punch that you have reached your conclusion.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
85. Glad that you have joined the Bernie camp.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:47 PM
Jul 2015

I am sorry that you came to it this way, because that means that one Democrat was being nasty to another Democrat. This just doesn't do any of us good. It is his message that has resonated with me. Glad that you took a look at the message as well.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
86. Glad to hear! I sometimes despair we're outmatched
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:54 PM
Jul 2015

by HRC's overwhelming resources, but with people like you on our side, I'm not sure I care. KnR

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,593 posts)
89. Welcome to your home! ...
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 01:24 PM
Jul 2015

I feel that no one on this board encompasses the message that Bernie does as much as you.
You are a class act.
Welcome aboard!

Greg

R. P. McMurphy

(833 posts)
91. But will you adopt the fringe hair style . . .
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:04 PM
Jul 2015

as I have?

Just funnin' ya! So glad to see another official Bernie supporter. Makes it doubly good that its a DU'er for whom I have much respect.

LittleGirl

(8,261 posts)
93. Coming from you makes me very happy
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:34 PM
Jul 2015

I know you're a dedicated member of DU and I want to welcome you to the dark side, ha ha. I've been a fan of Bernie's for several years, before the President even!

DonCoquixote

(13,615 posts)
97. to those asking people to post
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:27 PM
Jul 2015

about other people, there is a clever little trick some do if you mention someone by name. It is considered a TOS, and can get you hidden or begin sent a pizza. Granted, it is selectively enforced, but it is a trick I suspect will be played on a lot of people that do not get in line.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
103. Wow - when you lose CaliforniaPeggy, there's definitely a movement afoot
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:13 PM
Jul 2015

Enjoyed seeing your post -- definitely people are starting to feel a groundswell... hard to ignore it when the earth starts to move out from under your feet!

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