UPDATED, CNN Video: Clinton with Jake Tapper, Vows to Work with Sanders, More, April 29

[appalachiablue]

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Tapper said no one knows better than You what Sen. Sanders is going through right now. She essentially agreed because of what she went through in 2008 and said, I'm going to work aggressively to reach out to Sanders supporters. I'm going to work on getting money out of politics. *We have a lot in common.

*Video of CNN Interview of Clinton with Jake Tapper, Vows to Work with Sanders, More, Apr. 29. Pub. 2 hrs. ago

[floriduck]

1. Obama said the same about money in politics. Don't hold your breath. nm

[appalachiablue]

5. Oh I know, just campaign rhetoric with a strong dose of arrogance.

Wow, just said she's against the TPP, when asked about Trump's likely attacks on her support of trade deals in the 80s and 90s...

[Baobab]

19. Take my advice- When Narcissists pretend to be compassionate, its always BC they are doing something

really really really evil.

ALWAYS. Without fail. Its the way they work.

In other words, "Beware of Greeks bearing Gifts" needs to always apply.


In the case of HRC, the thing that never gets discussed is these trade deals which are quietly making the entire future agenda of Sen Sanders and all other progressives impossible behind our backs- forever, the talks going on now in Geneva and Brussels-

with the intent of trading away a impossibly horrible number of jobs as well, until the wages in US and elsewhere equalize, without the wealthy paying their fair share, By stealth.

just delay, just talk with me, eat my apple, DON'T FIGURE OUT WHATS REALLY HAPPENING.

"read the greyed out text below"

[Fairgo]

26. Astute observation

[Baobab]

27. one Ive paid dearly for

nt

[Fairgo]

28. ohhhhh, yes

Personality Disorder is diagnosed by the destruction in its wake.

[bjo59]

60. Absolutely.

[LiberalArkie]

2. It is getting the money out of OTHER campaigns.

[arcane1]

3. "I'm going to work on getting money out of politics"

[MissDeeds]

4. LaLaLa

Not listening. She'll say anything to win votes and then run to the right IF she gets elected.

I've heard enough of her lies to last a lifetime.

[sarge43]

13. Sing it, Sister n/t

[MissDeeds]

16. Thanks, sarge43

She just brings out the worst in me.

[sarge43]

20. Is there still room on that bench? n/t

[MissDeeds]

25. Always! n/t

[JudyM]

49. She only cares about her glorifiers.

[Dawgs]

6. Only a fool would trust anything she says anymore. n/t

[Baobab]

21. they are just counting on Americans falling for the same tricks over and over again

Because we do,

Will we fall for the same trick on health care now three times?


VVVVVVVVVV read me VVVVVVVVVVV

down here

VVV a bit lower, go on VVVV

[Kalidurga]

7. "I didn't ask for concessions"

But, you are saying you are willing to give them, to people who don't do research, to women who are going to hell, and to the sexist Bernie Bros. I guess if you are willing to make arms deals with oppressive regimes anything is possible.

[jillan]

18. Bullcrap. She did ask for concessions. She asked

Obama to pay off her enormous campaign debt. Is there anything that she won't lie about??

[Kalidurga]

63. No, she said she wasn't standing by her man. She loved him whatever.

Say one thing do another. Say you love someone when you look like you are gonna pop em one. So if you can lie about that I guess it's all on the table.

[arikara]

59. Secretary of State wasn't a payback?

Obama gave it to her because why?

[Kalidurga]

64. I am pretty sure that was the deal they made. Poor Hillary found out it was work.

[abelenkpe]

8. So she proposed publicly funded elections?

[Baobab]

23. What we need is ALL TRADE DEALS DUMPED, BECAUSE POLITICIANS AND ELECTED ANYTHING HAVE NO POWER

UNDER THEM

SHE CAN MAKE ANY PROMISE AND IT DOES NOT TOUGH THE FTAS

SHE IS JUST A NATIONAL POLITICIAN AND THE TRADE DEALS MAKE POLITICIANS AND NATIONAL STATE AND LOCAL LAW IRRELEVANT FOREVER

[abelenkpe]

31. Is anyone proposing that?

Is Bernie? I can't see Clinton doing that. Do feel current trade deals favor corporations at the expense of everyone and everything else.

[Baobab]

32. Have you read the paper I link to in my sig?

thats the worst one - it and the successor deal being negotiated in Geneva and all other services deals have to go.

We should blanket repeal them all even if the developing countries go berserk because of the long promised Mode Four jobs.

However, those jobs were the still unfulfilled payback for playing a corrupt game at our expense, they will then be able to go back to public health care and public education though, as will we.

then we should try to figure out ways for us all to learn more about one anothers needs and help one another in ways that do not pit us against one another for the same jobs- Nobody wants to leave theur family ad travel to the other side of the world for a job that barely puts food on the table- thats what we all should reject- "movement of natural persons" provisions are a scheme to divide and conquer us all while leaving the basic inequities untouched.

Instead we should start fro scratch with everybody AT the table instead of us on it being carved up.
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[abelenkpe]

37. "movement of natural persons" ?

Pretty much everyone I used to work with is now in another country chasing their old job. Of course the jobs are no longer staff with benefits. Just per show, no benefits, no security. Everything was off shored 2013 to take advantage of overseas tax incentives and cheaper employee health care costs.

[Baobab]

40. Have you read the paper I link to in my sig?

the paper in the grey text below is not about that

it doesnt even mention that - what is it about, tell me.

[abelenkpe]

42. Investors don't want and won't allow the US to change their for profit health care system

because it would cut into their profits so far...just started reading it and do not really have the time. A more succinct explanation would help.

[Baobab]

45. thats the best explanation I know of, actually- try this one - though.

this memo is very short but its much less detail rich

https://www.citizen.org/documents/Health%20Care%20Memo.pdf

[Baobab]

35. the power is taken away from presidents to do that by them.

But he needed to tell us that was the situation and he hasn't- An explanation that gives him the benefit of the doubt would posit that hes tried to make his candidacy a referendum on the last 20 years of changes by pretending they never happened instead of explaining them AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.

Read the paper in my .siig below, its a good introduction to a bunch of concepts. Also, why did its author suddenly die?

[arikara]

52. Can you post your link please, Baobab?

It sounds interesting.

I have sig lines turned off, I can't stand all the flashing, crawling bugs, swatting, obnoxious gifs etc. And I certainly don't miss them.

[Baobab]

53. sure.. here- You will have to go to this page and download it-use the link for PDF

file

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.405.5725

Does that work?

These are related and also useful

http://www.maine.gov/legis/opla/ctpchlthcaresub.pdf

http://www.pnhp.org/states_flatline/State%20Health%20Reform%20Flatlines%20IJHS%20-%202008.pdf

http://www.pnhp.org/resources/pnhp-research-the-case-for-a-national-health-program

[arikara]

56. Thats great

I'll have a look.

Thanks!

[snagglepuss]

58. This is "like no other trade deal" and that is a quote of a Senior Tory MP in the UK

who under Thatcher negotiated trade deals. He is so alarmed he has broken rank with Cameron.



snip

Peter Liley, broke ranks when he outlined his opposition to TIPP (a deal currently being negotiated between the USA and EU) which he points out TAKES AWAY THE RIGHTS OF GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT ITS OWN CITIZENS.

snip

The more closely I look at it, the more parts of it worry me. Conservatives who believe in free trade should be very wary about endorsing TTIP....we should not sign away Parliament’s right to protect our citizens from harmful additives, and so forth


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027755567

[bjo59]

61. This is exactly what both the TPP and the TTIP are really about,

taking away the rights of government to protect its own citizens. The goal is to destroy national sovereignty (in any meaningful sense of the world). In the future, the only role a national government will play is that of overseeing armed control of its citizens (police and military) while the global corporate leviathan attends to its own interests unimpeded. Brave new world vision is right on track, moving forward apace. I really hope that European countries end up telling the US to go screw itself on these that TTIP. Unlikely any leaders will do this, but there's more hope of such a thing happening there than there is here (unless, somehow, Bernie ends up in the White House).

[appalachiablue]

29. Hill's taken everything just about from Bernie's platform, and then some. In this Video

Exclusive Interview on Ap. 27 of Jane Sanders by Ed Schultz the day after the Ap. 26 primaries---

*Go to 2:40 Minutes to Hear what HC just said in her 'Victory Speech' Tuesday night!

[Baobab]

54. She absolutely can't grant a great many things because GATS or some more recent FTA blocks them, so

its total BS, and nobody knows that better than her and Bill.

[in_cog_ni_to]

9. BULLEFFINGSHIT. Bernie /We have NOTHING in common with

Her NOTHING.

She can kiss my Progressive arse.

GO BERNIE!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Land of Enchantment]

14. She is the polar opposite of Bernie. How the hell can there be

reconciliation? Time to rid the party of the Al From wing, the New Democrats and the superdelegates.

[appalachiablue]

24. +10. That one goes to the front of the scrapbook, 1st page.

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[DetroitSocialist83]

10. Is she gonna work on that

Like when she tried killing Feingold's bill? What a joke.

[djean111]

11. Oh, barf.

She would reach out to snag Bernie's supporters with lies about being liberal, and work on getting the money out of Bernie's campaign and into her pockets. That about covers it.

[thereismore]

12. "Aggressively" may be problematic. nt

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

15. We have to look forward, not backward...off the table...

...money out of politics...cut it out...tough on crime...loyal friend of Netanyahu...reach across the isle...work with the republicans...

[Baobab]

30. See how honest she is about health care

read the grey text below and read the paper at the link. Note when those changes were being made - what was her health care plan again? A cover up scheme.

[bkkyosemite]

17. Sure she is going to work aggressively to to reach out to Sanders supporters...BUT

many of the supporters will not reach back. She puts them down and Bernie down for months now she needs them..

[LiberalElite]

36. I won't listen to her crap OTOH I WILL

"aggressively" write in Bernie's name in November.

[Baobab]

39. One million American DEAD thanks to 20 yrs of deliberate dysfunction on health care while G^TS

talks went on and on.

We already spend 2/3 of every health care dollar comes from the government- and insurance wastes around a third- so single payer would cost basically nothing more than what we spend now, or very little more-

They had to have these fake crises, though, which the "hard choices" in the FTAs to throw Americans under the bus "solves" you see.


Education was given a fake crises too, at what cost? A whole generations future.

for that, there is a parallel in China under Mao- the sent down generation.

[appalachiablue]

43. What years for a generation of education 'crisis', here & China? Tx.

[Baobab]

48. For education you should read about it on the EUA web site but it does not talk about the jobs part

http://www.eua.be/activities-services/news/newsitem/15-02-05/EUA_Council_statement_on_TTIP_and_TISA.aspx
http://www.eua.be/Libraries/higher-education/GATS_en.pdf
http://www.eua.be/Libraries/publication/EUA_Statement_TTIP.pdf

also, look at the results of searches like this:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3A.in+GATS+WTO+education&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

China? I don't think you're understanding what I was getting at.

When you hear about "procurement" in services, its the globalization of some government services down to the municipal level -

http://www.southcentre.int/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/AN_SV11_The-Development-Dimension-of-the-GATS-Domestic-Regulations_EN.pdf

Also, TiSA -

For decades, these talks have gone on and the lowest bidders - whomever they are- are being promised market access- in services its in the form of procurement contracts to the lowest bidders international firms will bid- and the lowest wages will likely not be from US firms so until we totally automate (in areas like construction of infrastructure) or drastically lower wages here we likely won't win. Its a conscious effort to pit the working people of the world against one another to maintain and increase inequality.

https://www.etuc.org/documents/emergency-motion-tisa

http://www.fes-globalization.org/geneva/documents/2014/2014_10_17%20From%20GATS%20to%20TISA%20Report.pdf

that is why they wouldnt fix health care even though we knew what we were doing would fail.

On schedule.

To "fix" it "they will propose" globalizing it. See how it works?

[Chezboo]

22. She apparently thinks she can erase her record like she erased her emails. nt

[TBF]

33. Does she really think I'm going to listen

after she knowingly and willingly stood by and did/said NOTHING as voting was sabotaged and suppressed throughout this primary? I am giving her the benefit of the doubt with that sentence. Even if she did not orchestrate it, she stood by and said nothing. Zero respect.

[EdwardBernays]

34. Bwhahahaha

Anyone that believes her gets what they deserve.

[HereSince1628]

38. I'll not pre-judge this, but my attitude is wait-and-see

she's always nice when she needs something, I'll judge how things are after she doesn't need us anymore.

[Baobab]

41. SURRENDER DOROTHY

.

[pengu]

44. Not interested

[leftcoastmountains]

47. Oh horse pucky!!!

I notice Obama and Biden have reached out too. I guess the DNC
wants us huh?!

[Trajan]

50. They still don't get it

The middle class needs MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS!

Yeah ... Getting 'money out of politics' is really important ...

However, as important as this is, my problem with Hillary and the Clinton's in general is how they have left the middle class in the lurch, paying the bills with less and less income while Hillary's fat cat friends charge MUCH, pay little, and, as an added bonus: pays little or no taxes ....

Working families need a fucking raise ... They need FOOD GOOD Health care that doesn't bankrupt them, and they need education for their children ... They deserve a decent and reasonable pension to reward their hard work ....

Everyone of those points were shot down by her highness ...

Workers.need.income.
Workers.need.health care
Workers.need.education

They already poopooed any and all of that, so, fuck'm ...

[merrily]

51. Her campaign has been trying to sell the money line and the similar line

since the beginning of this campaign.

I, for one, am stunned by the beauty of the Emperor's new duds.

[Ino]

55. "work aggressively to reach out"

Sounds like "grab."

She thinks we're as stupid as everyone else she's hoodwinked.

[oldandhappy]

57. show me

[arikara]

62. Well it explains that creepy twitter they were blathering on about last night

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511860999