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Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:25 PM

Why are a Republican and msm anxious to keep Sanders off the ballot in NH in the DEMOCRATIC primary?

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/06/24/416929786/this-quirky-new-hampshire-law-might-keep-sanders-off-the-ballotf

As most of us know by now, New Hampshire law supposedly requires Bernie to be registered as a Democrat but Vermont has no way of allowing anyone to register (politically) as anything but a voter. I have not yet found the law itself, but the oath a candidate must swear in order to get on the ballot, the full text of which appears in the article linked above, includes registration language.

In Congress, Bernie has caucused with Democrats. The DSCC has said officially that it will not support any Democrat who runs against him. Both Schumer and Dean have said publicly that they consider him an asset.


Twice, Vermont Democrats ran Bernie as their own candidate and he won those Democratic nominations. However, he declined to accept. Still, he was the nominee of the Vermont Democratic Party. Also, the Vermont Democratic Party has recognized him as a Democrat, as has the DNC and--wait for it--as has the New Hampshire Democratic Party. So, why all the handwringing in the establishment media?

This particular article drew my attention, though, because it mentions that a New Hampshire Republican went to the trouble of writing an Op-Ed for the New York Times saying that Bernie does not qualify to be on the ballot under New Hampshire law.



Why would a New Hampshire Republican want to keep Bernie off the Democratic primary ballot?

BTW: Vermont law determines Bernie's voter registration. Vermont law seems to allow Bernie to be whatever he declares himself to be at any given time.

If New Hampshire does refuse to recognize that Bernie is now a Democrat under Vermont law, despite Vermont's recognizing him as such (and the DNC, the Vermont Democratic Party and the New Hampshire Democratic Party), then I am fairly sure Bernie can "make a federal case out of it" and win.


United States Constitution, Article IV
Section 1.

Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.

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Reply Why are a Republican and msm anxious to keep Sanders off the ballot in NH in the DEMOCRATIC primary? (Original post)
merrily Jul 2015 OP
virtualobserver Jul 2015 #1
merrily Jul 2015 #5
HassleCat Jul 2015 #2
merrily Jul 2015 #6
HassleCat Jul 2015 #7
merrily Jul 2015 #8
HassleCat Jul 2015 #9
merrily Jul 2015 #10
HassleCat Jul 2015 #14
merrily Jul 2015 #15
HassleCat Jul 2015 #16
merrily Jul 2015 #18
GoneFishin Jul 2015 #3
rocktivity Jul 2015 #4
djean111 Jul 2015 #11
SoapBox Jul 2015 #13
JDPriestly Jul 2015 #22
SoapBox Jul 2015 #12
merrily Jul 2015 #17
kath Jul 2015 #19
merrily Jul 2015 #20
kath Jul 2015 #21

Response to merrily (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:31 PM

1. the anti-Hillary file is thicker?

 

The Billionaires have decreed it?

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:40 PM

5. OMG, I am actually supporting Dismal Rancid, but there is no DU Group for her yet, so I post here.

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Response to merrily (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:31 PM

2. I wondered the same thing

 

I thought the GOP would want Sanders in as long as possible, thereby increasing the odds of some kind of nasty Democratic cat fight, embarrassing stuff to use against Clinton, etc. But somebody responded the GOP hopes Sanders would be encouraged to run as an independent if he is kept off the Democratic primary ballot. That would be an enormous long shot, but it does fit the pattern of the Grand Old Party. Grandiose Old Party, maybe.

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:43 PM

6. Bernie said he would not run as a spoiler. Why is establishment media flogging this story?

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Response to merrily (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:50 PM

7. Hope springs eternal

 

As far as the media, they need to generate some stories, and it's always good when someone appears as a spoiler. As far as the GOP, they don't know Sanders, but they can hope he develops some sort of ego problem that makes him run as a spoiler. They're probably hoping Clinton tries to force him off the ballot in various primaries, thereby making him angry and rebellious.

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:57 PM

8. This is not ringing true to me at all. Nader had money and could afford to run as a spoiler.

Sanders does not and will not accept PAC money. If he did not have donations from Democrats, he'd have to drop out of the race fast.

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Response to merrily (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:06 PM

9. Third party

 

Nader was hoping to start a third party by getting enough votes to qualify for federal matching funds for a third party. I think he made the hurdle, but it wasn't enough to sustain a third party effort.

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:11 PM

10. Relevance? This is about Bernie, not Nader, and I don't think Nader is running this time.

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Response to merrily (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:25 PM

14. It's a historical comparison

 

We were discussing possible reasons the GOP might want to keep Sanders off the Democratic ballot. One of those possible reasons was because they hope Sanders will stage a third party or "spoiler" candidacy if he can't get on the Democratic primary ballot. Ralph Nader ran a third party effort in 2000. The Republicans may be hoping Sanders will do something similar to what Nader did. You know, we can talk about things other than why my candidate is wonderful, and the other one is a worthless POS. It's called "discussion." Sheesh!

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #14)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:32 PM

15. I did not know why you were bringing up Nader. Nothing about my question was snotty or insincere.

I've said nothing in this thread--or ever--about anyone's candidate being a POS. I know what a polite discussion is and I had been attempting one with you.

Finally, I did not understand the meaning of your Nader reference because I had already responded to you twice on the possibility that Bernie would run in the general as an Indie: He said he would not and he does not have the money so to do. Republican politicians can figure out the latter quicker than I can.

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Response to merrily (Reply #15)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:36 PM

16. OK, thank you

 

I thought you were scolding me for going off topic. My mistake.

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #16)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:40 PM

18. No problem. Easy to mistake things like that on a message board.

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Response to merrily (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:33 PM

3. Because the only actual important issues to Republicans and MSM are economic. Bernie is the enemy of

both of them on economic fairness issues.

On edit: the suggestions here that they want to force him to run as an independent make sense too.

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Response to merrily (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:34 PM

4. It's in the GOP's best interests that Hillary win

just as it was eight years ago.

She'll be easier than Bernie to beat -- and if she wins anyway, she'll be easier to control. So it's a win-win for them.


rocktivity

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:17 PM

11. I believe you have nailed it. nt

 

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:21 PM

13. I also agree.

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:00 PM

22. DUers have no idea of the contempt in which Hillary is held by so many

ill-informed voters.

A friend of mine who calls herself a liberal informed me that she could not vote for Hillary because Hillary and Bill were involved in or associated in so many murders. I could not believe my ears. That story is totally false. There is no evidence for it.

But it is so hard to prove a negative. The calumny thrown at the Clintons means that Hillary has to lift a heavy weight of nonsense in order to win votes from a lot of brainwashed fools.

It's wrong and unfair, but it is reality.

Yet another reason I am for Bernie.

He does not have all that unfair, false baggage.

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Response to merrily (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:20 PM

12. I would imagine that Bernie's campaign team is all over this.

Presumably!

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #12)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:38 PM

17. The articles says only that he doesn't think it will be a problem. I agree. It's only the media and

this Republican who wrote for the NYT flogging this. Of course, the article suggests he is close communication with the New Hampshire Republican in charge of making the decision, who is keeping mum, publicly at least.

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Response to merrily (Reply #17)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 04:29 PM

19. Well, some "Democrats" coughthirdwaycough are flogging this here at DU.

And it gets really tiresome.

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Response to kath (Reply #19)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 04:31 PM

20. You may want to bookmark this thread?

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Response to merrily (Reply #20)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 06:20 PM

21. Good idea. GAH - all the dead-horse-beating going on around here is really something else.

They keep bringing up the same things over and over over again. And the arguments go on forever, because some particularly annoying/tenacious posters will. Not. Let. It. Rest.

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