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Rec if you think Bernie Sanders should live here... (Original Post) Playinghardball Jun 2015 OP
Many in the LGBT community are sticking azmom Jun 2015 #1
She evolved? Kalidurga Jun 2015 #2
Big hat tip for enduring that many conservatives, I couldn't do it; woulda gone bananas. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #3
Can I get one too. I live in Arizona. azmom Jun 2015 #6
Sure! GD, where have all the liberals gone?! Visited Sedona & surrounds once, magnificent. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #7
Sedona is amazing and very liberal. azmom Jun 2015 #10
Sedona is also very expensive a place to live. And a small population compared to Mesa or Tempe.... marble falls Jun 2015 #15
I believe we have Many Latino voters that don't azmom Jun 2015 #18
Some LGBT are speaking about wanting to azmom Jun 2015 #5
Hmm. Noting for later. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #8
In my opinion, Hillary would azmom Jun 2015 #14
I agree... Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #42
Well Minnesotans for Bernie is working on building the same coalition Kalidurga Jun 2015 #9
I think Bernie's coalition will be much azmom Jun 2015 #12
Absolutely Kalidurga Jun 2015 #13
I'm working on the Latino vote. azmom Jun 2015 #16
Thank you for your efforts. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #26
Good Latinos need someone on their side. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #49
How far would gay rights be if people like Milk hadn't fought for the right thing to do snagglepuss Jun 2015 #36
They don't exist, we are individuals. Fearless Jul 2015 #44
Not many, SOME. But from what I am seeing from across the nation on Social Media, the LGBT community sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #22
Let's hope that is the case. azmom Jun 2015 #35
Can someone explain? AlbertCat Jun 2015 #33
I think they feel she'll protect their financial interests. Not saying that's true or untrue. valerief Jun 2015 #34
Poll figures to back that up? Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #41
Not me. Fearless Jul 2015 #43
a lot of it is just that she's "The FrontrunnerTM" of "the only party that backs MisterP Jul 2015 #47
YES! appalachiablue Jun 2015 #4
Absolutely! SoapBox Jun 2015 #11
Rec!!! Stevepol Jun 2015 #17
A democrat should be elected to live there. Chicago1980 Jun 2015 #19
Bernie Sanders represents Democratic values more than any other candidate which is why sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #23
This group is for supporters of Bernie Sanders. If you have a problem with people supporting Bernie smokey nj Jun 2015 #30
I'll post where I please. Chicago1980 Jul 2015 #48
Look at the top of the page, the name if the group is there. smokey nj Jul 2015 #50
IMO if Hillary wins the nomination a Democrat will not live there. zeemike Jun 2015 #32
You really want him to live in public housing? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #20
K/R if you think Bernie shold live there and Legs Dimon and Pretty Boy Lloyd should live here: Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #21
+1 daleanime Jun 2015 #28
K & R n/t RoccoR5955 Jun 2015 #24
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #25
K&R..... daleanime Jun 2015 #27
READY for BERNIE !!!! penndragon69 Jun 2015 #29
If I can't have that, bvar22 Jun 2015 #31
K&R raouldukelives Jun 2015 #37
Rec 161 n/t Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2015 #38
I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jun 2015 #39
K & R L0oniX Jun 2015 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #45
Since he voted against DOMA (twice, IIRC), he would be happy to have the WH lit that way. merrily Jul 2015 #46

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
2. She evolved?
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:17 PM
Jun 2015

I have no idea. I have no problem with the idea of evolving and growing into a better philosophy. I have done it myself. I have been surrounded by conservatives most of my life so you can imagine the fight I have to stay sane, sometimes my philosophy suffers and in some places it has become stronger because it has been up against conservative philosophy. Every day is a new day to fight. So, I get it I really do compromises are made at times. However, I don't think the LGBT community shouldn't ignore where Hillary has been in the past, it should be acknowledged and there should be a dialogue about it. I think it's toxic to ignore the issue.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
10. Sedona is amazing and very liberal.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:42 PM
Jun 2015

The conservatives are in the rural areas, and the suburbs on phoenix and Tucson and other major cities.

I'm hoping that Bernie's message gets heard and we get many new voters.

marble falls

(56,356 posts)
15. Sedona is also very expensive a place to live. And a small population compared to Mesa or Tempe....
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:51 PM
Jun 2015

or Gilbert or Chandler or Peoria - let alone Phoenix.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
18. I believe we have Many Latino voters that don't
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:57 PM
Jun 2015

Vote. It's a major reason why they are going after us so much. Many latinos fled over SB1070.
The republicans know that if my community was mobilized we could be a force to contend with.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
5. Some LGBT are speaking about wanting to
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:31 PM
Jun 2015

Recreate Obama's coalition, which included LGBT, and vote with Hillary.

They fear Bernie will lose to a Republicans and the republicans would aggressively work to take away some of the gains that community has worked for so hard.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
42. I agree...
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 03:38 AM
Jul 2015

I don't think Hillary will do as well among younger voters as Obama. But she could do better among working class whites who didn't vote Obama because he's black.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
9. Well Minnesotans for Bernie is working on building the same coalition
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:37 PM
Jun 2015

we have to work from the ground up because that structure is not already in place for us. We will do it though. We had overwhelming support at the Pride Festival.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
12. I think Bernie's coalition will be much
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:45 PM
Jun 2015

Different. Bernie's campaign manager said they still don't know his coalition will be. It's best if we just reach out to everyone.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
13. Absolutely
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:48 PM
Jun 2015

I will even talk to Republicans some of them can be reasonable if they are truly about individuals being self sufficient, they should be willing to provide those tools for them to do so if they haven't gotten those tools by the time they have reached their 18th birthday.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
49. Good Latinos need someone on their side.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:20 AM
Jul 2015

It seems people think of issues only in terms of Black and White.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
36. How far would gay rights be if people like Milk hadn't fought for the right thing to do
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 06:14 PM
Jun 2015

rather than had taken what would be perceived as the safe route?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
22. Not many, SOME. But from what I am seeing from across the nation on Social Media, the LGBT community
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 03:53 PM
Jun 2015

is supporting Bernie, referring to his long record of support for their rights. They are forming groups now to make sure he gets the nomination.

The Corp Media will most likely find the few who support Hillary, but the Corp Media is not the place where things are happening, the New Media is where the action is and where real people get to speak for themselves.

Saw a beautiful poster today eg, 'We are women, we are Black and we are Lesbians and we support Bernie Sanders because he has consistently over the decades, supported us'. Lost the link, but it was just another example of how much support he is getting from the LGBT community.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
35. Let's hope that is the case.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 06:01 PM
Jun 2015

My daughter attends Mount Holyoke and the LGBT community makes up a fourth of the population
There. She is telling me the same thing. It's a women's college at that, but they are largely Bernie supporters.

This is going around campus


things that my extended family thinks are problems at women's colleges: too much drama, not enough men

actual problem: the fact we all own bernie sanders products and can't tell which shirt belongs to whome

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
33. Can someone explain?
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:02 PM
Jun 2015

They don't know who Bernie Sanders is.

Hillary practically has her own musical.



This is true of many outside the LGBT community as well.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
34. I think they feel she'll protect their financial interests. Not saying that's true or untrue.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:36 PM
Jun 2015

Also, some might like the idea of a woman president. I do, too. I also liked the idea of a black president but I didn't vote for Obama in the primary. What he was saying back then seemed designed to appeal to my emotions. It didn't work. Of course, I voted for him in each of the two general elections. I'm not a total idiot.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
41. Poll figures to back that up?
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:27 AM
Jul 2015

If not, the only thing we can say with certainty is that the LGBT+ community will largely stick with the Democrats, and support who-ever is nominated. All four candidates have been outspoken in their support for equal rights.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
47. a lot of it is just that she's "The FrontrunnerTM" of "the only party that backs
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:05 PM
Jul 2015

gays/Latinos/AAs/etc.TM": a lot of people don't even realize Bernie's running in a primary!

but eventually Sanders's impeccable--and not passive/reactive--civil-rights issue will spread

and, even more eventually, her FP record will crop up--" target="_blank">Iraq, the new Honduran regime that's less trans-friendly than Iran, using al Qaeda against Qaddafi, arming and funding the FSA while everyone knew that for a good part they basically *were* ISIS (and Ukraine of course); and us wonks will remember that we were told to STFU on Libya and Syria in the name of the undying glory of the Party

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
19. A democrat should be elected to live there.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 03:26 PM
Jun 2015

I don't care if it's Hillary or Bernie and I'm sick of the split in the party over the issue.

Geez... Two summers of this.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
23. Bernie Sanders represents Democratic values more than any other candidate which is why
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:00 PM
Jun 2015

this country needs him now. Some of our Dems were not consistent on those values over the years and we need to get Wall St OUT of the People's House. Sanders is the only candidate who will do that. He is going to win. His long record of consistency is what is drawing people to him in large numbers.

Im sick to death of Politicians who wait until it's politically expedient to finanlly evolve on major issues. THEY are responsible for holding up progress as they pursue their own political careers which appear to take first place often over the lives of millions of ordinary people.

I will not support politicians who are supported by Wall St.

I am not worried about being faced with the choice of a Republican over a Democrat I am not enthusiastic about any more. We have finally found a candidate who requires no nose holding, to vote FOR and that is what we will do.

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
30. This group is for supporters of Bernie Sanders. If you have a problem with people supporting Bernie
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:32 PM
Jun 2015

Sanders in the Bernie Sanders supporters group, you probably shouldn't be posting in it.

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
48. I'll post where I please.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 01:49 AM
Jul 2015

My comment is regarding the banter between supporters of the two candidates, like you attempted to do wit me. Where did you come to the conclusion that that this was a Bernie support group?

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
50. Look at the top of the page, the name if the group is there.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:41 AM
Jul 2015

This group is a place for Bernie supporters to post about his campaign. There are also groups for Hillary supporters and Martin O'Malley supporters. If you want to complain about too much primary talk, these are not the groups in which to do it.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
32. IMO if Hillary wins the nomination a Democrat will not live there.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:39 PM
Jun 2015

But it may be another Bush.
My theory is if it is between two dynasties they will chose Bush...the ones who vote that is.
Many independents will just stay home seeing it as tweedle dum or tweedle dee.
But we shall see.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
21. K/R if you think Bernie shold live there and Legs Dimon and Pretty Boy Lloyd should live here:
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 03:40 PM
Jun 2015

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
46. Since he voted against DOMA (twice, IIRC), he would be happy to have the WH lit that way.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:58 AM
Jul 2015

Those votes were in the 1990s, when many Democrats were ducking for cover on the issue of equal marriage.

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