Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:50 PM

So, Hillary DUers are leaving to find "real democratic values?"

WTF?

What in the hell are "real democratic values?"

As far as I'm concerned, Hillary's campaign is about establishment politics and getting the first woman elected.

I just can't go there. Sorry.

Other than women's rights (which are very important), I just don't trust Hillary to nominate judges that would overturn Citizen's United or that she will do anything to help the 99%.

89 replies	Author	Time	Post
So, Hillary DUers are leaving to find "real democratic values?" (Original post)	TexasMommaWithAHat	Mar 2016	OP
Maybe they plan to work with the Republicans that Trump has displaced.	jalan48	Mar 2016	#1
They should feel right at home.	HooptieWagon	Mar 2016	#8
That unfortunately is true.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#18
Well, not quite	Jack Rabbit	Mar 2016	#68
Records like Clinton's suggest that those pro-gay reDuLiCans are in the minority.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#72
yes	Ferd Berfel	Mar 2016	#20
Yes. Aside from (limited) women's rights and a recent warming to gay marriage	Lorien	Mar 2016	#81
As far as I am concerned, they ARE the Republicans that Trump has displaced.	corkhead	Mar 2016	#14
And How yup, yup, yup	DeGreg	Mar 2016	#41
almost said they'd probably work for him but	PatrynXX	Mar 2016	#66
This message was self-deleted by its author	artyteacher	Mar 2016	#2
Apparently you are lost -	TBF	Mar 2016	#7
oh i am so sorry.	artyteacher	Mar 2016	#12
Thank you ...	Jopin Klobe	Mar 2016	#42
I have been voting for Democrats my whole life	EmperorHasNoClothes	Mar 2016	#11
If one is leaving to find "real democratic values"	TexasMommaWithAHat	Mar 2016	#15
I'm guessing it's the "party before country" types	nxylas	Mar 2016	#3
I suspect it's not even about Party.	merrily	Mar 2016	#31
Probably so but Walmart, Tyson and Kochs donate a large amount of money to NPR	LiberalArkie	Mar 2016	#37
I do not doubt you at all, but the conversation was about what motivates people to support Hillary.	merrily	Mar 2016	#43
Oh Totally, They want to get a job with the Gov for a bit, or some agency something they can	LiberalArkie	Mar 2016	#49
People who work for the DNC, people who work for Hillary, her PACs or the Clinton Foundation are	merrily	Mar 2016	#55
Kasich is Toast in Ohio also. I heard some people in Ohio talking and it did not seem that	LiberalArkie	Mar 2016	#62
Isn't NPR corporate? I know PBS is.	Duval	Mar 2016	#45
My point was about supporting Hillary out of self interest.	merrily	Mar 2016	#47
Thanks, merrily. It's really sad. nt	Duval	Mar 2016	#60
You mean National Plutocrat Radio? I agree!	Peace Patriot	Mar 2016	#77
The chairperson of PBS is a Republican	Lorien	Mar 2016	#82
The Obama Administration has cut Public Employees to a new low,	bvar22	Mar 2016	#78
Correct, but, if you were convinced that she could win the general and Bernie could not.........	merrily	Mar 2016	#79
It's an entirely "sports fan" like mentality	Lorien	Mar 2016	#83
...and in a pantsuit.	Raster	Mar 2016	#86
By the looks of her logo	TBF	Mar 2016	#4
Aside from the echo of the Goldwater campaign symbol, it's a very corporate logo.	merrily	Mar 2016	#48
"real democratic values" = voting for Hillary.	djean111	Mar 2016	#5
They must mean real corporate conservative values.	ananda	Mar 2016	#6
Just two years ago this group was largely behind single payer	TexasMommaWithAHat	Mar 2016	#9
+1!! Exactly. "Single payer healthcare should be the least that we offer our citizens!"	FighttheFuture	Mar 2016	#29
Real Democratic values?	BillZBubb	Mar 2016	#10
HRC has a terrible record on reproductive rights	nashville_brook	Mar 2016	#13
Not sure it's appeasement	nxylas	Mar 2016	#38
Yes.	bvar22	Mar 2016	#80
Hah, leave after pooping all over the Democratic party	nc4bo	Mar 2016	#16
pooping all over DU too: we're supposed to be a mass of people who would've gone	MisterP	Mar 2016	#30
Is that where they all went? A quest, eh? I had wondered what happened.	Kip Humphrey	Mar 2016	#17
Ha-ha-haaaa	Plucketeer	Mar 2016	#19
What in the hell are "real democratic values?"	AlbertCat	Mar 2016	#21
Fracking and offensive warfare apparently.	fbc	Mar 2016	#23
"real' democratic values....	Ferd Berfel	Mar 2016	#22
Do those women's right include the right to health care, education, and economic security? if so,	Gene Debs	Mar 2016	#24
Hillary has said she woud negotiate a Constitutional amendment about choice. Not sure what to think	merrily	Mar 2016	#25
PUMA redux n/t	n2doc	Mar 2016	#26
I wasn't a member at the time	TexasMommaWithAHat	Mar 2016	#28
Republican lite is real democratic values to the Hillary camp.	Cleita	Mar 2016	#27
Yes - I did, too.	840high	Mar 2016	#32
+1 For me, it's not about FDR, but about New Deal politics, but I get your point.	merrily	Mar 2016	#33
If by "Real Democratic Values" they mean:	d_legendary1	Mar 2016	#34
Unfortunately, those aren't even American values as framed in our founding documents:	Cleita	Mar 2016	#39
Absolutely correct!	d_legendary1	Mar 2016	#52
The Phase....	LovingA2andMI	Mar 2016	#35
Anti-FDR www.hillarypineradicals.org???	Ivan Kaputski	Mar 2016	#36
Aw!	Helen Borg	Mar 2016	#40
Where ever they go...	SoapBox	Mar 2016	#44
Hillary loves throwing crumbs at average Americans	cprise	Mar 2016	#46
••• Results of Jury •••	tomm2thumbs	Mar 2016	#50
The swarm has attempted to weigh in.	stranger81	Mar 2016	#51
0-7 means they can take some time out, yes?	tomm2thumbs	Mar 2016	#53
Yes, thank dog.	stranger81	Mar 2016	#54
too much coffee and not enough distraction in life	tomm2thumbs	Mar 2016	#56
Yes, but it's a team sport for them.	merrily	Mar 2016	#58
they eventually eat their own	tomm2thumbs	Mar 2016	#61
I meant alerters, but yes, "Senator McCain and I are ready for that 3 am phone call. Senator Obama	merrily	Mar 2016	#67
I laughed at your explanation! Good one!	Duval	Mar 2016	#65
If they find them, we'll see them back here.	Duval	Mar 2016	#57
"What in the hell are "real democratic values?""	greiner3	Mar 2016	#59
"Real democratic values" is when the important people get to decide.	Spitfire of ATJ	Mar 2016	#63
Where did they say that?	Matariki	Mar 2016	#64
Not Trusting Hillary	JGug1	Mar 2016	#69
The email thingy could very well get worse,	Beowulf	Mar 2016	#74
I'm so sick of this "But X is unknown" newsflash EVERYONE used to be unknown!	MidwestTech	Mar 2016	#76
Why is the purge not working?	Bettie	Mar 2016	#70
CAN SOMEONE HELP ME?	ellennelle	Mar 2016	#71
Apparently "Real" Democratic Values are the GOP values of the 1970s. n/t	Gore1FL	Mar 2016	#73
Real Democratic Values are	RoccoR5955	Mar 2016	#75
We all have a "hatred problem."	Blue_In_AK	Mar 2016	#84
yes, we hate liars	dana_b	Mar 2016	#85
I don't even trust her on women's rights.	noamnety	Mar 2016	#87
I can't trust anyone who spoke in favor of a constitutional amendment restricting abortion rights--	eridani	Mar 2016	#88
They must be joining Bernie's campaign!	cui bono	Mar 2016	#89

So, Hillary DUers are leaving to find "real democratic values?"

1. Maybe they plan to work with the Republicans that Trump has displaced.

8. They should feel right at home.

18. That unfortunately is true.

68. Well, not quite

72. Records like Clinton's suggest that those pro-gay reDuLiCans are in the minority.

20. yes

81. Yes. Aside from (limited) women's rights and a recent warming to gay marriage

14. As far as I am concerned, they ARE the Republicans that Trump has displaced.

41. And How yup, yup, yup

66. almost said they'd probably work for him but

7. Apparently you are lost -

12. oh i am so sorry.

42. Thank you ...

11. I have been voting for Democrats my whole life

15. If one is leaving to find "real democratic values"

3. I'm guessing it's the "party before country" types

31. I suspect it's not even about Party.

37. Probably so but Walmart, Tyson and Kochs donate a large amount of money to NPR

43. I do not doubt you at all, but the conversation was about what motivates people to support Hillary.

49. Oh Totally, They want to get a job with the Gov for a bit, or some agency something they can

55. People who work for the DNC, people who work for Hillary, her PACs or the Clinton Foundation are

62. Kasich is Toast in Ohio also. I heard some people in Ohio talking and it did not seem that

45. Isn't NPR corporate? I know PBS is.

47. My point was about supporting Hillary out of self interest.

60. Thanks, merrily. It's really sad. nt

77. You mean National Plutocrat Radio? I agree!

82. The chairperson of PBS is a Republican

78. The Obama Administration has cut Public Employees to a new low,

79. Correct, but, if you were convinced that she could win the general and Bernie could not.........

83. It's an entirely "sports fan" like mentality

86. ...and in a pantsuit.

4. By the looks of her logo

48. Aside from the echo of the Goldwater campaign symbol, it's a very corporate logo.

5. "real democratic values" = voting for Hillary.

6. They must mean real corporate conservative values.

9. Just two years ago this group was largely behind single payer

29. +1!! Exactly. "Single payer healthcare should be the least that we offer our citizens!"

10. Real Democratic values?

13. HRC has a terrible record on reproductive rights

38. Not sure it's appeasement

80. Yes.

16. Hah, leave after pooping all over the Democratic party

30. pooping all over *DU* too: we're supposed to be a mass of people who would've gone

17. Is that where they all went? A quest, eh? I had wondered what happened.

19. Ha-ha-haaaa

21. What in the hell are "real democratic values?"

23. Fracking and offensive warfare apparently.

22. "real' democratic values....

24. Do those women's right include the right to health care, education, and economic security? if so,

25. Hillary has said she woud negotiate a Constitutional amendment about choice. Not sure what to think

26. PUMA redux n/t

28. I wasn't a member at the time

27. Republican lite is real democratic values to the Hillary camp.

32. Yes - I did, too.

33. +1 For me, it's not about FDR, but about New Deal politics, but I get your point.

34. If by "Real Democratic Values" they mean:

39. Unfortunately, those aren't even American values as framed in our founding documents:

52. Absolutely correct!

35. The Phase....

36. Anti-FDR www.hillarypineradicals.org???

40. Aw!

44. Where ever they go...

46. Hillary loves throwing crumbs at average Americans

50. ••• Results of Jury •••

51. The swarm has attempted to weigh in.

53. 0-7 means they can take some time out, yes?

54. Yes, thank dog.

56. too much coffee and not enough distraction in life

58. Yes, but it's a team sport for them.

61. they eventually eat their own

67. I meant alerters, but yes, "Senator McCain and I are ready for that 3 am phone call. Senator Obama

65. I laughed at your explanation! Good one!

57. If they find them, we'll see them back here.

59. "What in the hell are "real democratic values?""

63. "Real democratic values" is when the important people get to decide.

64. Where did they say that?

69. Not Trusting Hillary

74. The email thingy could very well get worse,

76. I'm so sick of this "But X is unknown" newsflash EVERYONE used to be unknown!

30. pooping all over DU too: we're supposed to be a mass of people who would've gone