Sanders wins more delegates: Democrats abroad votes are in!!!!!

[Ichingcarpenter]

compiled by country (by % Bernie):

85%+
Japan 89.79%
75-84%
New Zealand 77.78%
Denmark 75.12%
65-74%
Spain 74.16%
France 71.26%
Canada 71.16%
Sweden 69.90%
Costa Rica 69.15%
Ireland 68.97%
UK 66.13%
55-64%
Thailand 63.43%
Germany 63.19%
Luxembourg 61.54%
50-54%
Switzerland 54.88%
Guatemala 53.51%

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_Abroad_primary,_2016#Provisional_Results

There are 13 delegates available total

. For reference, Wyoming is worth 14.

Vermont and Alaska are worth 16.

[bkkyosemite]

1. This is great. And is an example of how Bernie has big numbers

yet she wins in other situations...but glad this was a win for Bernie!

[Jarqui]

2. Kind of strikes me like the media covering the Iraq war decision

When you get outside the USA, nobody easily has their thumb on the scale of worldwide media like they do with the six companies who control 90% of US media.

It's through that worldwide media that much of the rest world gets to assess Bernie v Hillary.

I think it's a lot more fair & objective media than what American media are providing to Americans.

When the case of the two candidates are fairly presented, I think you get results like the above.

I think Obama won in a landslide outside of the USA. The USA is one of the countries in the world where Obama is least popular. Once again FOX News and corporate media within the US has a lot to do with that.

I do not think that was the case in the 60s or 70s - nearly as much. It seems to have increased as control of the US media got consolidated.

[Faux pas]

3. Kickin' with gusto!

[dana_b]

4. oh - our so smart ex pats and over seas people!

I think living in countries predominantly where they have healthcare for all, free tuition, great transportation systems, a focus on clean energy and union strikes are encouraged (Je t'aime, France!!) has had a great effect on them. Oh - and more objective news!!!

When I was in Europe just over a month ago (wow, time flies!), I would watch a bit of their news everyday and they covered our elections better than we did. They showed ALL of the candidates and hadn't tuned it into the Trump and Hillary show. Sigh...

[Divernan]

20. They are well informed and worldly wise.

[PyaarRevolution]

26. They realize Bernie's programs can work.

[alcina]

5. Yay Canada!

I'm so happy to see that -- and a little surprised. I joined an ex-pats group here about 6 months ago, and since then I've met only Hillary supporters. I need to find out where the 71-percenters are!

[dana_b]

6. btw - did you cross post this??

I think everyone should know.

[Ichingcarpenter]

9. nope......... but feel free to

post it in that wretched hive.








GDP
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.

[yourpaljoey]

7. When Hillary can't cheat, she must retreat!

[alcina]

8. Oops. We can't count our chickens yet.

They're still accepting emailed ballots until 6 pm EST tonight, and regular mailed ballots have until March 14 to arrive and be counted. And of course, there are still a few primaries tonight. But I like to preliminary results!

[Ichingcarpenter]

10. No way she can make up the gap

on what is reported so far.

[alcina]

13. I hope you're right

But I don't think there's a way to know how many people actually vote in the DA primary until all the votes are counted. You have to be a DA member to vote, but that doesn't mean you have to vote in the DA primary. You can vote in your home state primary instead. (And I've seen at least two sources claim you might be able to vote in both!) So the 5000 votes so far could be the upper end, or it could be a small fraction.

This was my first time voting this way, and because of my schedule, I had to opt for mailing it in. My partner went the email route. We both received confirmation that our ballots were received. But what I found a little disturbing is that the ballots go a DA rep who gets to see who you are and whom you voted for. There's no privacy. If that rep was less than honourable -- and I have no reason to believe anyone is; I'm just saying IF -- then it seems like it would be pretty darned easy to flip the votes. Presumably it would be caught on audit, but who would call for an audit? Just seems a little too open to potential abuse.

Of course if Bernie wins, I'll naturally assume everything was done to the letter.

[Democrats Ascendant]

11. ??

I'm not disputing that Sanders may have won Dems Abroad, but it's not at all clear that this is in fact the case from the source you cite (Wikipedia). There are dozens and dozens of contest sites, but only a fraction are reporting results. Those reporting are overwhelmingly for Sanders, however.

Anyhow, the total number of voters (less than 5,000 reported so far) is insanely disproportionate to the number of available delegates: 13 pledged and 8 supers. The range is between 26 ballots in Pattaya to 630 in London.

Official results to be released on March 21, once all absentee and mail-in ballots are counted.

[Ichingcarpenter]

12. As a Hillary supporter you can read this as you want

But the trend is real and the movement is real.

[cantbeserious]

14. Thank You For Sharing This Good News

eom

[Duckfan]

15. I was in China when I voted in 08

When the Consulate called and told me my ballot had arrived, I went to vote that same day and turned in right back in to them. But Consulate Officer told me it still may take 2 weeks to arrive in U.S. I was not happy about that. But I think I did get mine in with time to spare. I even called election office to verify it had been received.

So as an FYI, make sure you tell your election office you will be out of the country and to send your ballot to the closest Embassy. And also let Embassy know to contact you when it arrives. But your supposed to check in with them anyway.

[Plucketeer]

16. What's obvious

is that one can see things more clearly when one stands back a bit a observes the whole picture. We need a LEADER of the people - not a glass ceiling buster.

[malthaussen]

17. Only 13 delegates total.

Something like 23,000 voters, IIRC. What this may prove is that those who choose to live and work overseas are not a neutral sample (one could find reasons for that a priori, for example that people choose to live and work overseas because they are dissatisfied with conditions in the U.S.). It's a nice thing to happen, but I doubt it is indicative of anything general. More delegates are always good to have, though.

Interesting that there are enough expats to be equivalent to Vermont or Alaska, though.

-- Mal

[RoccoR5955]

18. Where is the Netherlands?

There are certainly many expats there. I even know a few.

[Ichingcarpenter]

22. Dutch Artist

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[Ichingcarpenter]

23. Irish Artist

&list=RDD1vEulH3lBo&index=27

[Ichingcarpenter]

25. Translation to english on both songs

http://lyricstranslate.com/en/onderweg-way.html#ixzz42M2ROohr

On the way

I close the door
Streets seem to be crying
Clouds seem to be fleeing


I step on the bus
People seem to watch me
But I want to avoid them
Before they see me

The days are gone and forgotten
When you didn’t forget my birthday
You unconditionally chose me

I see the fields
Passing me by, houses
It’s quiet behind the windows
Who can see me
in blue-lit trains


Your heart is so close to me
But it doesn’t beat
And these days are lost and forgotten
Your black hair and your smile
That you were everything for me
It’s still so deep inside of me

http://lyricstranslate.com/en/onderweg-way.html

It doesn't do it justice but hey....... wTF?


Irish singer

Link

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/amymacdonald/thisisthelife.html

[RoccoR5955]

29. Very nice! n/t

[AzDar]

19. Go, Bernie GO!!

[zentrum]

21. K&R

[mhatrw]

24. Not a SINGLE reported location preferred Clinton.

They obviously need to install some voting machines stat!

[JDPriestly]

27. So much for Hillary's foreign policy experience.

Not respected by Americans overseas.

[Ichingcarpenter]

28. She has great Twitter followers in Bangladesh and face book friends.

in other countries that she paid for the hype.

[RoccoR5955]

30. She has even paid

people in the US to like her as well.... Including superdelegates. Don't be fooled!

[Matariki]

31. How does that work out w/ delegates

8 or 9 for Sanders?

[Canada4Bernie]

32. #FeelinTheBern in Toronto

Exit polls at our DA Global Primary polling place had Bernie beating Clinton by a 6 to 1 margin.

[Rhiannon12866]

33. Welcome to DU, Canada4Bernie!

It's great to have you with us!

[greymouse]

34. OP

On my browser your results are a jumble, so I went to the link. I see Bernie mopped the floor. Are the delegates distributed proportionally?

From wikipedia:

A Global Town Hall online videoconference was held on February 21.[2] The Sanders and Clinton campaigns participated...

The Clinton campaign was represented by Jake Sullivan and Madeleine Albright[3][4][5]. Hillary Clinton was absent from the town hall, and instead attended a private fundraiser in Atherton, California, in the home of Sukhinder Singh Cassidy.[6][7]

The Sanders campaign was represented by Bernie Sanders.[8]