Bernie supporters....please beware..nh is going to be UGLY...we need to be ready

[restorefreedom]

should we take a minute to enjoy that bernie took a 61 point lead a year ago and turned it into a virtual tie? of course. should we be happy that we are going into the primary with a significant lead and that bernie seems now to be raising more money than hillary? absolutely.

but we can't enjoy it too much. from everything i read, the hillary campaign was truly shaken by iowa. bernie has a 30 point lead in nh, and if hillary loses by anything close to single digits they will spin this as the comeback kid closing on bernie. they KNOW now more than ever how much of a threat bernie really is. and what do the clintons do when they are threatened? they go ugly. if we thought we saw ugly before, we ain't seen nuthin yet.

we have to fight like an underdog, because we know the ptb are aligned. they are going to get worse now. meaner. uglier. it might be hillary's downfall, but we can't assume that.

enjoy the moment. and fight like hell for every supporter. fight like hell against every ugly smear and lie they are going to throw at bernie. call hillary out on her bullshit "embrace" of progressivism.

we have to win nh by a significant spread. and now the long knives will be coming out. be prepared. be ready to fight. lets not let our guard down for even a second.

bernie is counting on us. lets go!!!!!!!!

[nxylas]

1. How much control does the DNC have over the vote counting?

Cos if you believe that the Iowa caucuses were a free and fair election, I have some beachfront property in Arizona to sell you.

[restorefreedom]

3. iowa was a farce

there was theft and loss of votes, and outright cheating. this is what we are up against.

i would imagine the counting is regulated by state officials, but we know ala kathryn harris, how that sometimes works

[Helen Borg]

23. Aka DWS!

[restorefreedom]

39. she will do what she can to keep the corruption going. nt

[Enthusiast]

31. I fully expect cheating in every state by you know who.

It's what they do.

[restorefreedom]

38. weaver has to stay on top of this. nt

[Warren Stupidity]

7. NH elections are clean and fair.

Vote counting is not an issue.

[questionseverything]

68. nh is no more transparent than any other state

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5573

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5568

no computer cards were examined , no voter's list being reconciled, the lhs guy was a convicted felon, butch and hoppy picking up the ballots, ballot boxes wide open

[nc4bo]

2. Is this video and hidden camera story real?

And if so, why was it hidden in GD ee?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511127950

Some type of shady dealings at voter registration by HRC campaign in Nevada.

[restorefreedom]

4. hidden by jury. how convenient.

they are going to pull out whatever nasty, dirty tricks they have. fortunately, jeff weaver is no slouch. they are not going to just slide by.

[nc4bo]

5. It's going to happen anywhere HRCs name is involved.

I'm confident Sanders' campaign is ready for it and will not meekly stand down.

Hillary should be called out whenever this occurs.

Ironic that guy was warning others about being caught in hidden camera footage. Just wow!

[restorefreedom]

13. i know, they don't see it.

but jeff weaver is on top of this. i do think it will get ugly, though.

[polly7]

8. I think it was hidden because of who made the video,

but if the people in it are really Clinton employees, they are cheating and breaking the law.

[ms liberty]

20. It was hidden because it's O'Keefe's group, Project Veritas

It might be accurate and unedited, I didn't watch it all, but it's from that pos and cannot be trusted. There are zero reasons to believe or use anything he does, and no one should be promoting him or his org. This Bernie supporter believes we can and should be better than that.

[nxylas]

40. That should have been pointed out in the thread itself

Hiding it was counterproductive. I know who O'Keefe is, but I didn't know that Project Veritas was the name of his outfit. Getting the OP hidden and the thread locked just makes it look like Hillary supporters censoring something that paints her in an unfavorable light. Whereas I think most of us on hearing O'Keefe's name would immediately know that it was not to be trusted.

[a2liberal]

66. I watched the whole video

At least 50% of it is obvious twisting and manipulation to make things seem completely different from what they are in typical O'Keefe style. Given the source and that I can obviously tell that half of it is bullshit, I'm inclined to believe that it's 99-100% bullshit.

[classykaren]

25. Yes why is this hidden it should be on Gawker

[blackspade]

28. Dude, that's that James O'Keefe huckster.

He's not a journalist.

That should never have been posted here at DU.

[Warren Stupidity]

6. Clinton will lose and it won't be close. nt.

[restorefreedom]

15. i hope you are right

i think 15 is a minimum spread. it can't even be close to single digits. personally, i would like to see 20+

[ErisDiscordia]

9. NH was my second home, and the people there are not pushovers

(not the Democrats, anyway). They have no reason to love Hillary, either. I think they will do the right thing by the nation, if only to show Iowa up. There's a lot of NH pride, and rivalry with the world.

[restorefreedom]

14. good to know

they are known for their independence....sounds like bernie country!

[BigGLiberal]

27. No, they are not. Those Dem women there are strong for Hillary.

[Locrian]

10. it's going to be a mud slog

A battle all the way with the entire mainstream corporate powers, the corporate controlled candidate, and the bat-shit crazy republicans.

[restorefreedom]

16. and uglier all the way. nt

[PFunk1]

11. It's already starting....and that's my worry

On the chance that Hillary does get the nod the crap that she does to get there will PO many Bernie supporters into NOT voting for her. And since many indies and others wont either it' probably means a repug win in '16.

Which is why I'm hoping for a Bernie win. He probably wont get much or Hillary's voters but he will get enough of indies and others to secure a democratic win in '16.

But yeah. Like it or not the big knives are already out for him. I just hope the party can survive the aftermath.

[Bohunk68]

17. +1,000 Pretty much the way I am seeing it also.

[restorefreedom]

18. much will depend on the supers

dems do proportionate delegates, not winner take all. so it could be close at the convention. if bernie has the popular votes and committed delegates, hillary and dws could use her supers to steal it for her.

if that happens, all hell will break loose

[DhhD]

24. How would a Brokered Convention play into hillary and dws and bill, steal?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokered_convention

In United States politics, a brokered convention is a situation in which no single candidate has secured a pre-existing majority of delegates (whether those selected by primary elections and caucuses, or superdelegates) prior to the first official vote for a political party's presidential candidate at its nominating convention.

much more at link

[restorefreedom]

33. they could try to steal it via supers

if that happens, expect holy hell to break loose on the convention floor.

[bvar22]

64. Holy Hell will erupt on the Convention Floor,

.....and across the USA.
I'm getting my pitchfork sharpened, and torches ready just in case.

[restorefreedom]

65. wow you are prepared.

i can't even find my pitchfork

damn closet clutter.....

[bvar22]

67. I live very rural and keep animals,

so the pitchfork is a necessity, and always close at hand.
Its use is second only to the shovel.
I have a spare if you need one.

[restorefreedom]

69. makes sense. will keep the spare in mind, thanx! :) nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. That video needs to go viral. Every time her corruption is exposed, it needs to go viral.

She'll 'Corrupt ' her way out of the nomination. This is the kind of crap we're trying to get out of politics. Her motto should be: "It's better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission."

Sleazy, sleazy, sleazy campaign.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[restorefreedom]

19. this and the unending email/foundation investigation

just sullies her for any chance in a ge

we can't afford to risk such a damaged and unpopular candidate against trump, cruz or rubio

[winter is coming]

47. It's from O'Keefe's outfit. More likely than not, it's another carefully edited hatchet job. n/t

[emulatorloo]

62. +1

[Helen Borg]

21. Yes, desperate opponents will employ desperate measures!

[restorefreedom]

22. and they are desperate! nt

[U of M Dem]

26. Yes! Run up the scoreboard as much as possible in NH!

The larger the gap, the better. Show no mercy!

Let's show HER ROYAL HIGHNESS (TM) HRC a taste of harsh reality.

She is completely out of touch with the will of the American people.

She poured an astounding amount of resources into Iowa and all that the elite of the establishment could do was squeak out a tie.

We can all smell the fear and desperation from Camp Weathervane.

If they think that the rest of the primary will be a cake walk, they will be sorely surprised.

Go Bernie Go!

#Feel the Bern!

[restorefreedom]

34. i read that 90% of her resources went into iowa

if thst is the case, thst doesn't bode well for her, esp with the money bernie is raising.

#feelthebern

[bkkyosemite]

29. Since IA the mudslinging has gotten MUCH worse against Bernie.

On MSM and they are attacking like no matter what we are going to win...get that old man out of the way. I am concerned. Podesta had a meeting with Congressman who are concerned about Bernie and HRC's ability to win...what was said in that meeting is what I want to know. It concerns me. Why is Congress involved in HRC's campaign.

[restorefreedom]

36. my mother heard something the other day on tv

she said some people were taking and they basically said that no matter what he is NOT getting the nom.

i wonder if that ties into what you saw,
. makes me very worried about what tptb have up their sleeves

[Ino]

61. They better hope he does get the nom...

because no matter what, HRC will NOT be president.

[restorefreedom]

63. that is very true. nt

[winter is coming]

48. The Congressman was probably a superdelegate who's regretting their endorsement. n/t

[GoneFishin]

30. Yep. They need to be called out on every shady thing that happens. They will count on some

pacificity on our part to let a lot of small things slide. We need to make a stink over every unethical move. They are bold already and will only be encouraged when they get away with bias behavior and are not challenged.

[restorefreedom]

37. absolutely. zero tolerance. nt

[Powers Hapgood]

32. We All Knew That It Would Be Ugly Coming Into This Campaign

But, that's the hand we're dealt. The STRUGGLE carries on.

[daleanime]

35. Long way to go in this election.....

And Iowa shows that we're right at the tipping point. This is the start of the 9 month sprint.

[MisterP]

41. it also "looks bad" if he gets a lower share than polled--but in IA the caucus result was 5-3 pts

ahead where Huffpo and RCP put the trendlines

[restorefreedom]

42. i think the reason many are calling this a bernie win

was team hillary wanted to try and put his campaign fire out in iowa, and she had spent so much money there. it should have been a clinton trounce.

and i have no doubt the m$m and m$nbclinton will push the higher poll numbers for bernie in nh so if he doesn't come close to that, they can spin it as him losing support

but we know better

[MisterP]

43. SC is then the one to look out for--even with Latino NV she can still use SC

to say "I'm the Black/Southern candidate" for Super Tuesday; I don't know how conservative the state party is and what obstacles spreading awareness of Sanders there would be

[restorefreedom]

44. i am really hoping if he does well in nh and nv,

esp if a key endorsements come forth, maybe sc will get better

although certainly clinton is to win some states, and some will be big wins. sc just might be one of those. but the momentum from the first states will hopefully stick with bernie

[MisterP]

45. it's not just fear that the Sanders line will go down or not manage to cross Clinton's

or that Clinton can recover, but that voters won't see it as a choice between two Americas--between the self-serving status quo keeping the garrotte around everyone's neck, or simple basic competence and historical literacy; it has to be about more than just two candidates and their plans

[restorefreedom]

50. yes. bernie seems to have a pr team that is reminding people of that

they are not just choosing a candidate, but a way of life for them and their kids.

they need to do it nonstop now....

[MisterP]

55. Clinton makes promises, Sanders points out problems and the fact that we've been carefully

herded away from the levers of power that'd let us address those problems ourselves

[restorefreedom]

58. exactly! time to get the power back. nt

[winter is coming]

46. For starters, those polls showing Bernie with a 30-point lead are from C+ pollsters.

I suspect a figure in the low 20s is more realistic.

[restorefreedom]

52. yes, probably 20s

my guess is they will push the hell,out of the 30 plus spread to try and play the "he underperformed" meme when he wins by "only" 15 or twenty points

[winter is coming]

60. Exactly. n/t

[postin4Bern]

49. Forgive me but...

...I have a major thread to start and I don't have enough posts to do it so I'm replying to build my count.

However, I DO like this post, restorefreedom and thank you for sharing.

[restorefreedom]

51. welcome to du!

look forward to your upcoming post

[postin4Bern]

53. Thank you!

I feel like I've "come home"!

[postin4Bern]

56. It is up and...

...thank you for the nice welcome. I'M HOME NOW!!!

[restorefreedom]

59. great! i will look for it. nt

[azmom]

54. I am not happy that she declared herself

The winner when all the votes weren't even counted. Arrogant is her middle name. I hope we bury her in N h

[restorefreedom]

57. yes, entitled arrogance. go bernie!! nt