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Related: About this forumClinton Iowa Volunteers Train When To Push Backers To O’Malley — To Block Bernie
No big surprise here. I think it speaks volumes as to character. And Sanders is the one running a dirty campaign?
"Hillary Clintons campaign for president is instructing its Iowa caucus leaders to in certain cases throw support to former Maryland Gov. Martin OMalley, with the goal blocking her main opponent, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, from securing additional delegates.
The tactical move is rooted in the complex math of the Iowa caucuses Monday night, where the campaign is looking to defeat Sanders in a state whose caucus-goers have historically backed progressive challengers.
A precinct captain, Jerome Lehtola, confirmed to BuzzFeed News that the campaign has trained precinct captains to release supporters to OMalley if the move can make him viable without hurting Clinton. A Clinton aide said the campaign has trained more than 4,000 volunteer precinct captains to handle a host of different scenarios, including ones where caucus-goers are released to or recruited from another camp.
Our precinct leadership teams have worked hard to get to know as many people in their precincts as possible and theyll use those relationships to maximize Hillary Clintons delegate count depending on which groups are viable on caucus night, the aide said..."
http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/hillary-bernie-math#.wh9GOPMYBV
djean111
(14,255 posts)And, from a different direction - next door neighbor says if he has to choose between Hillary and Trump - he will choose Trump.
He is a Democrat, but is sick of the Clintons and the Third Way crap.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Subverting democracy for personal gain is not something I can support.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)The trump part, that is.
djean111
(14,255 posts)change things, and that Hillary would just make things worse. He does not like the TPP, and thinks the ACA will never go far enough to provide actual affordable health care to all. He had always been registered as a Democrat, but changed to not affiliated last time he renewed his driver license, because he is sick of the Democratic party acting like Republicans. He will vote for Bernie, but I will have to work on him to get him registered as a Democrat so he can vote in the primary.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Isn't this coercion? I thought that was illegal.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)trying to claw out any fraction of a %. Bernie will prevail anyway.
awake
(3,226 posts)To afford the lose of the voters from their own ranks so by trying to up O'malley's numbers hers may drop below Bernie's
Bernin4U
(812 posts)It's an interesting strategy on paper. But if MOM, who needs to be at 15% to survive, is really only at about 5% in a typical room, than what are the chances that Hillary's side can afford to give up 10% to save him (and thus, herself)?
It would be one thing if he were getting into the low teens. Then the HRH supporters could in many cases, be more likely to afford being able to give up some people to go astroturf with MOM, while safely maintaining the HRH ranks.
But if MOM is not even getting halfway there, then it's just too big of a burden for HRH supporters to make up the difference. The MOM group will get broken up, and Bernie will likely be the bigger beneficiary.
And apologies to MOM supporters if this sounds condescending. You know that we'll be after you, just as HRH supporters are. But at least I don't see that we'll be doing it by pretending to be on your side.