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Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:10 AM

Scary: Did Hillary really laugh about getting a child rapist off?

This discussion thread was locked by boston bean (a host of the History of Feminism group).

This has bothered me since I heard of it a few days ago. I promise, I skipped ALL the Right Wing blogs on this article and went to Daily Beast.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/20/exclusive-hillary-clinton-took-me-through-hell-rape-victim-says.html

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Reply Scary: Did Hillary really laugh about getting a child rapist off? (Original post)
whathehell Jul 2014 OP
lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #1
whathehell Jul 2014 #2
lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #4
greatlaurel Jul 2014 #3
lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #6
whathehell Jul 2014 #9
boston bean Jul 2014 #5
whathehell Jul 2014 #8
boston bean Jul 2014 #10
redqueen Jul 2014 #14
whathehell Jul 2014 #18
lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #7
ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #11
cheapdate Jul 2014 #12
Little Star Jul 2014 #13
whathehell Jul 2014 #17
boston bean Jul 2014 #20
LanternWaste Jul 2014 #15
whathehell Jul 2014 #16
BainsBane Jul 2014 #19

Response to whathehell (Original post)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:22 AM

1. I need to know the background of this accuser in relationship to her politics. Why? because when

the ACA was passed, individual right wingers were coming out it droves giving misinformation about how their coverage before the plan was less and covered more than after the ACA. However, when several reporters looked into the details they found that the plans before covered much less, and the costs did not go up in most of those cases. Also, it was found that many of those were being financed by the Koch brothers.

Keep in mind I am not saying this is valid or not valid, but I want more information as to its validity. Just because it is posted on the internet does not make it true, and with the massive republican campaign right now to "get Hillary", it is important to verify this, including the political associations of the person making the accusations




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Response to lostincalifornia (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:27 AM

2. I'm not sure..

what the background of the accuser has to do with it, as she was only 12 years old

at the time.

Again, from the Daily Beast: Here is the audio tape of her discussing the incident

with a veteran DC reporter. It was done in the 1980's for an article which never

went to print:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/16/why-was-hillary-clinton-laughing-about-helping-suspected-child-rapist.html

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Response to whathehell (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:57 AM

4. Hillary has a right to answer the accusation, and yes everything should be made public, including

the victims political affiliations. An audio tape may or may not be sufficient. I want witnesses who can corroborate that Hillary did what she did. There are enough Hillary haters out there who would have no problem misrepresenting the facts, and it is only proper to confirm that is not the case here.

If the veteran DC reporter is around, will he come forward? Who is he or she?

That would go a long way to demonstrating the validity.

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Response to whathehell (Original post)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:51 AM

3. Anything in the Daily Beast is suspect, IMO

The right wingers are pretty desperate if they are dragging stuff like this and posting it on the Daily Beast.

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Response to greatlaurel (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 10:00 AM

6. That is why I want to examine its validity, and conflicts of interests. From the ACA to Obama's

Citizenship, it has been demonstrated time and time again that right wingers will misrepresent and lie to further their cause.

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Response to greatlaurel (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 10:13 AM

9. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I honestly thought the DB leaned left..

It's why I skipped over all the other rags.

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Response to whathehell (Original post)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 10:00 AM

5. I may end up locking this thread.

I am of the belief it is a right wing meme after researching and listening to the interview myself.

However, I am not going to lock now, but if other members of this group object, I will lock. I not, it will remain open.

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Response to boston bean (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 10:10 AM

8. Bean, I'm a member of this forum and I hope you know

I am no right winger, and had certainly planned to vote for Hillary if she's nominated.

Instead of locking the thread, why don't you just tell us what you found from

researching and listening to the interview -- Believe me, I'd be happy as hell

to discover that this story is BS.




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Response to whathehell (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 10:17 AM

10. I didn't say you were a right winger.

I listened to the interview myself, the entire thing. It is on the net somewhere. I listened to it about two weeks ago. When this bull shit reared it's ugly head again... It was completely and thoroughly debunked in 2008 when rwingers tried this the for the first time.

Go and listen for yourself, then we can discuss.

In my opinion this is a right wing meme, and I don't particularly like it being posted here in the group. However, I am a huge Hillary supporter and I recognize that others may want to discuss.

That is why I will leave it up to the group and by reviewing the responses to this thread as to whether this is something we want posted in here.

I think that is pretty fair, don't you?

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Response to boston bean (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 11:49 AM

14. MORE than fair. WAY more. nt

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Response to boston bean (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 01:18 PM

18. I'm glad to hear that..

and I don't remember it being discussed in 2008 at all. If I had I can assure

you I'd have no reason to post it again.

This being the first time I'd heard of it, I was concerned, and thought it would be better

to post it HERE (where I foolishly, it seems, imagined I'd be trusted) than put in in

General Discussion.

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Response to whathehell (Original post)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 10:04 AM

7. The Washington Free Beacon is a right wing rag. This is where the source comes from?

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Response to whathehell (Original post)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 10:53 AM

11. It's a RW wing

And typical of Hilary bashing-- not you what the hell, buts it's at that level. Any look at Hilary Clinton's very open statements about women's rights shows this up as crap.

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Response to whathehell (Original post)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 11:05 AM

12. Not me. A comment or gesture Hillary Clinton may or may not have made 30 years ago

doesn't reflect in any way whatsoever on the person she has become, nor does it erase or take away from the extraordinary work she has done on behalf of women and vulnerable people worldwide.

I'm far from agreement with Hillary Clinton's political views in many areas but I utterly reject the suggestion that she is the kind of reprehensible and disgusting person who would "laugh" at the thought of a child rapist cheating justice.

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Response to whathehell (Original post)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 11:25 AM

13. I find it offensive that in a feminist Group...

you would not only bring this RW bullshit but also rec your own post. Why don't we feminists just help tear down a woman?

I'm sure in your Google search you noticed the obvious, that this is a smear RW sites are promoting because I did.

You should delete this OP, imho.

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Response to Little Star (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 01:13 PM

17. I thought it was best to put it HERE than in GD, here, where I

foolishly it seems, imagined I'd be trusted.

As for bringing "RW bullshit", if you'd read the OP, you'd noticed that I SKIPPED those

and went to Daily Beast which I believed to be a credible, left-leaning site.


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Response to whathehell (Reply #17)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 02:05 PM

20. It's been posted in GD at least 3 times.

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Response to whathehell (Original post)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 11:57 AM

15. I imagine that were you sincerely bothered

I imagine that were you honestly and sincerely bothered, you would take the initiative and do that very same research you are implying others do...

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 01:09 PM

16. With the small amount of time available to me, I've been doing just that.

so If you doubt my sincerity, I'm afraid that will have to be your problem.



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Response to whathehell (Original post)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 02:05 PM

19. She was appointed by the court to defend a child rapist

She had to do it under her responsibility as an attorney. The laughing thing strikes me as ridiculous.

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