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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
2. boys lag a whole year behind girls at reading in every industrialised country
Sat May 19, 2012, 12:12 PM
May 2012

3 You like men.

It’s 2012 and not everything is rosy in those man gardens. In his forthcoming book, The Second Sexism, David Benatar says that men are suffering from a prejudice that dare not speak its name. OECD figures show that boys lag a whole year behind girls at reading in every industrialised country. Globally, men are more likely to be victims of violence and more likely to lose custody of their children during divorce.

Have men just made a bed that they should shut up and lie in? Yes, says the journalist Julie Burchill, men are “paying the price that male supremacy gives them”.

With the inequality facing women, feminists could be forgiven for holding back on efforts to help men out of the hole they have dug. Yet we are trying. Men are cool. I live with three of them. Lots of feminists do. I don’t want them to die young. I want them to be healthy and happy. I want my sons to play a full part in raising their children. Feminists want half the cake. We want men to have the other half. Because they’re worth it.

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both kids excel in reading, reading comprehension and english. my oldest took the SAT his freshman year for the second time. he came out the top 5% of the top 10% of the nation in reading comprehension.

i have spent all of the boys years fighting this stereotype and their love for reading. when they were little, especially my oldest, he had such a passion for books, i would tell people, buy him books for bday and christmas. ALL the people bulked. my MIL incredibly said one year, " what do they want and dont tell me books".

my brother lectured me on my parenting and how horrible i was as a mother cause i let them read "black like me" at 8 years old and many other adult books, because they are so advanced in reading. i was depriving them of their childhood.

especially with oldest, middle school, bushco promoting male stupid to counter the liberal elitists was so prevalent and in my sons face. boys, taking honor in not being educated or thinking. we had too many kids proudly saying. books, i dont read no stupid books.


thanks for the article VC. interesting little, new twists in those. enjoyed.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
4. Did you read to your boys when they were little, Sea?
Sat May 19, 2012, 02:22 PM
May 2012

I think love of reading starts young, often times with a parent or other adult reading to the child.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
5. evey night. one of my favorite times. they had books as babies, starting with plastic and
Sat May 19, 2012, 02:38 PM
May 2012

they used them as chew toys. to the heavy card board, goodnight moon, that we read repeatedly. little text. mostly having a discussion on each page about all the fun stuff. finding the balloon. the colors. what an animal says. when i went to grocery store, we would head to the books, find a new one and he would have that thru the store. the only money i spent on the kids willingly, freely, was books.

my husband worked long hours. and he often took the reading. a time to gather and cuddle with the kids, stroke and love and giggle with them. everything about it took it so beyond just the reading of it.

my oldest, from newborn, was different. he would go 8 hours and longer without sleep. he has never been good at sleep. the books where there for him when at 2, he was awake in the middle of the night, to "read" until he could go back to sleep.

my youngest (we talked recently about this as a reminder of difference in two), never settled to read. always wandering. acting like he didnt want. BUT, the few times i would say, no story... he would get upset. still, every night, we read, regardless if we felt he was focused or intent on the story.

i do reminders for them, so when they are parents.... lol.

we are all big readers. they have hundreds, 3, 4, or more, in their room (that includes cheap comics to children encyclopedias, a favorite of oldest). wont let me get rid of the younger age books.

this summer, the big project, is cleaning all this out....

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
3. Take that, to all the a-holes who say feminists hate sex:
Sat May 19, 2012, 02:17 PM
May 2012
9 You like sex. As good a reason as any to be a feminist. Sex is better between equals. QED.

It's the italicized part that they don't get.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
6. Posting so that you can block me.
Sun May 20, 2012, 06:58 PM
May 2012

Last edited Tue May 22, 2012, 05:19 PM - Edit history (1)

eta:

I'd delete this post outright now that I'm unblocked but that would ruin the subthread.

boston bean

(36,219 posts)
8. To All, please don't respond to Gormy Cuss
Sun May 20, 2012, 07:13 PM
May 2012

Gormy made a post so she could be blocked. Request has been granted. That is all there is to say about that.

MerryBlooms

(11,759 posts)
9. I thought we could delete ourselves from a group by not posting or deleting membership?
Sun May 20, 2012, 08:39 PM
May 2012


Is there something in the rules I've missed?

I am a member of this group, feminists, lgbt, cooking/baking, pets, photography... if I ever chose to leave these groups, do I need a host or admin to delete me?

boston bean

(36,219 posts)
10. Hi Merry
Sun May 20, 2012, 08:43 PM
May 2012

Gormy wanted me to block her from the group. She made a specific request for whatever reasons she chose. I guess it was her way of making some statement. If you hit the about button on the front page of the group, you will see the people who have been blocked from posting here in the group. All of those were disruptors, except Gormy. She had never posted here, but still requested for me to block her.

We cannot block people who have not posted. So she made a post so the hosts could meet her request.

If you find you do not want to be a subscriber to the group, you can hit the unsubscribe button.

But as far as making you leave, I don't see it happening...

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
12. I have to say it was quite a silly request.
Sun May 20, 2012, 09:49 PM
May 2012

It seems like the only reason someone would post in a group to ask to be blocked would be to try to wear the block as a badge of honor, which is about as stupid as it gets.

"Look at me! I'm so not a part of a group that they blocked me [font size="1"]when I requested that I be blocked[/font]! What jerks they are!"

boston bean

(36,219 posts)
13. she asked, she received. we aim to please I guess.
Sun May 20, 2012, 09:56 PM
May 2012

but really, let's not give her reason to garner sympathy, that people are talking about her and she can't even respond, cause she's blocked. Even though she is the one who requested.

If someone thinks it's a badge of honor, it wasn't really earned was it. She did nothing to deserve it, except she asked to be blocked.

I guess if she thinks she might be disruptive in future postings, it's just as well.

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