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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:53 PM Sep 2013

Women Are Doing the Man Things But Men Won't Do the Lady Things

Women are doing all the "man things" they can these days. Wars. Heavy lifting. Dangerous jobs. Cigars. Heart attacks. And men are doing more "lady things" than ever before, like expressing identifiable emotion and caring about children. They are really picking up the slack and the slacks. Get it? From off the floor? But don't machete your sensible feminist heels down to flats just yet: This men-are-the-new-women thing is still overblown.

Take the whole stay-at-home dad trend. A bit overhyped, says a piece over at the Atlantic, which acknowledges that, sure, while it's true that the number of men who are stay-at-home dads has doubled in recent years, it has doubled from such a low figure as to be almost insignificant statistically, and doesn't merit all the trend pieces. Read it and weep directly into your yogurt/salad to burn some extra cals:

Among all married couples with children under 15, only 0.8 percent include a stay-at-home dad— up from about 0.3 percent in 1994—compared to 23 percent that include a stay-at-home mom.

But even those small percentages probably overstate the relative importance of stay-at-home fathers in the greater context of U.S. families. First, we're living in the age of the single parent. More than half of births to women under 30 happen out of wedlock, and women disproportionately end up taking care of those children.

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But it's this part that gets me upset all over again:

even among two-parent households where women work, the percentage of men acting as the primary caregiver has actually declined slightly since the early 1990s. The fraction of these men regularly providing any care whatsoever for their children while their wives work has been static since at least the late 1990s.

Yup: In families where men and women both earn, women are rocking 12 hours of childcare while men are only mustering up 7. If anything, the author writes, men have stopped taking on more responsibility at home in recent years.

Ugh. Unfortunately, yeah, we know. We know women still do more housework than men. And handle more of the childcare. Because we are doing it, and you know we gonna talk.

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http://jezebel.com/women-are-doing-the-man-things-but-men-wont-do-the-lad-1253430721
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Women Are Doing the Man Things But Men Won't Do the Lady Things (Original Post) redqueen Sep 2013 OP
Anecdotally ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #1
sadly, society is not geared for it gopiscrap Sep 2013 #2
Nor does society value Tumbulu Sep 2013 #3
Not geared for it how? I'm not sure what you mean there. redqueen Sep 2013 #4
men are questioned when they do "women's" work gopiscrap Sep 2013 #5
OK, I was thinking more of just the entire situatuon, redqueen Sep 2013 #6

ismnotwasm

(41,975 posts)
1. Anecdotally
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:19 PM
Sep 2013

Working with many women in the right age group, this is spot on. I hear more complaints from women gong home and cooking and cleaning and taking kids to soccer games than I should be.

On the bright side, some of them have true partnerships who have a shared measure of household chores and child care, but they are definitely out numbered.

Tumbulu

(6,272 posts)
3. Nor does society value
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:35 AM
Sep 2013

Women who care for children. It is almost financial and professional suicide. But more women are willing to do it than men anyway.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
4. Not geared for it how? I'm not sure what you mean there.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:21 AM
Sep 2013

And also as Tumbulu said, society has always looked down on most jobs considered to be 'women's work' as lowly and beneath men. There is lip service paid to them being honorable and valuable duties but the compensation for such jobs belies those claims.

gopiscrap

(23,733 posts)
5. men are questioned when they do "women's" work
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:39 AM
Sep 2013

they are thought of as incomplete when being nurtures and not work outside of the home etc.....it's getting better but it's still there.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
6. OK, I was thinking more of just the entire situatuon,
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:16 AM
Sep 2013

couples where both work, no kids, and still with the unequal sharing of household chores.

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