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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 01:48 PM

 

Jada Pinkett-Smith: “The War On Men Through The Degradation Of Woman”





After slaying critics in defense of her daughter Willow, outspoken actress and activist Jada Pinkett-Smith took to Facebook today to drop some knowledge on how the degradation of women has resulted in problems for both sexes.

As we look at societies where the women are lost, struggling for education and otherwise disregarded, versus those who consider women the center of their communities, Jada‘s words ring all the more truer. Read what she has to say below:

I am sure the men, who restructured our societies from cultures that honored woman, had no idea of the outcome. They had no idea that eventually, even men would render themselves empty and longing for meaning, depth and connection.

There is a deep sadness when I witness a man that can’t recognize the emptiness he feels when he objectifies himself as a bank and truly believes he can buy love with things and status. It is painful to witness the betrayal when a woman takes him up on that offer.

He doesn’t recognize that the [creation] of a half woman has contributed to his repressed anger and frustration of feeling he is not enough. He then may love no woman or keep many half women as his prize.

He doesn’t recognize that it’s his submersion in the imbalanced warrior culture, where violence is the means of getting respect and power, as the reason he can break the face of the woman who bore him four children.

When woman is lost, so is man. The truth is, woman is the window to a man’s heart and a man’s heart is the gateway to his soul.

Power and control will NEVER out weigh love.



http://www.sinuousmag.com/2012/12/jada-pinket-smith-war-on-men/

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seabeyond Dec 2012 OP
MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #1
Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #2
mzteris Dec 2012 #3
ismnotwasm Dec 2012 #4
MadrasT Dec 2012 #5
seabeyond Dec 2012 #6
MadrasT Dec 2012 #7
Tumbulu Dec 2012 #12
MadrasT Dec 2012 #15
MadrasT Dec 2012 #8
seabeyond Dec 2012 #9
Tumbulu Dec 2012 #10
seabeyond Dec 2012 #14
dart_dart Feb 2015 #16
MadrasT Dec 2012 #11
seabeyond Dec 2012 #13

Response to seabeyond (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 01:59 PM

1. Lost me at "war on men"

 

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Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 02:13 PM

2. perhaps a better title --

Last edited Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:43 PM - Edit history (1)

“Paradox: The Struggle of Man Through The Degradation Of Woman”

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 02:42 PM

3. Or men's war on themselves . . . n/t

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Response to seabeyond (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 03:32 PM

4. "Warrior culture"

Oh for Gods sake. My SIL talks about "the loss of" warrior culture. I told him it was lost with the minute any weapon was used for war with long range. Say a bow and arrow, it just got worse---from arbalests to smart bombs.

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Response to seabeyond (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 04:05 PM

5. I can't get past the gender stereotyping.

Too over the top for me.

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 05:03 PM

6. ya... well, it is more a spiritual type emotional

 

perspective. needs all kinds of words to address all kinds of people.

this is what i have shown my boys, that hubby recognizes, and i think needs to be clear to genders. when hurting one, it is gonna hurt the other.

making women about things, is going to create a life for men, that ultimately wont be satisfying cause really, that is not what we humans crave.

what are you having an issue with? goddess?

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 05:38 PM

7. To me it feels like she is holding up women

as the source of compassion and love and morality and all things good... because they are female... and I don't buy that.

As if men are bad because they are male, and need women to civilize them and make them not be awful.

Morality and compassion and goodness and love are not "female" and I roll my eyes when people want to suggest that women are the source of those human traits.

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:31 PM

12. Well I take this to mean that in the popularized current version of the patriarchy

these are the roles men and women are playing and this role that women are being pushed into playing has this consequence for the men playing their role.

Both lose.

Bad roles all the way around.

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Response to Tumbulu (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 08:07 AM

15. OK well I could sure agree with *that*. n/t

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 05:42 PM

8. Really, any flavor of feminist thought

that holds women up as "better than" pisses me off.

For me, feminism is about making sure women aren't treated as "less than".

I don't like anything that tries to make them "better than" as part of the strategy.

Equal works fine for me.

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 06:04 PM

9. better than has never done it for me either. i hate the "mysterious" "woman on pedestal" crap.

 

How is man to recognize his full self, his full power through the eye’s of an incomplete woman? The woman who has been stripped of Goddess recognition and diminished to a big ass and full breast for physical comfort only.

The woman who has been silenced so she may forget her spiritual essence because her words stir too much thought outside of the pleasure space. The woman who has been diminished to covering all that rots inside of her with weaves and red bottom shoes.


what i am reading here is if a man does not see the whole of the woman, how can he see the whole of him.

by depriving himself of the human in woman. the compassion, love, kindness and reducing her to tits and ass, and she reducing self to shoes, then neither experience all of who we are.

i was not seeing that she is the one that allows him to have cause she is the holder of it. but, reducing a woman to a thing, will reduce him to about only that also. why it does not behoove to treat a person less than what they are.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:27 PM

10. I'm not often looking at popular music video's, etc

but my impression is that in the rap music world, all women are portrayed as sex objects waiting for big flashy gifts...I don't know- really awful images imo. I see what she is saying as being against this pop culture image of women as sex objects only and for this I applaud her.

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Response to Tumbulu (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:10 PM

14. meh... lol

 

did not even pick up that had to do with the rap music world. bah haha. my bad.

happy holidays to you.....

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Response to Tumbulu (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 14, 2015, 02:58 AM

16. Try not to be blind

my impression is that you haven't looked around... A very large percentage of music in general portrays women as sex objects anything regarding an intimate relationship, like country, rock and pop also hold this in common.. outside of rap culture, and existed before then too.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:30 PM

11. I am still really tired and depressed.

I will give it another read after I am feeling better and see if I can hear it a different way.

This is a little too deep for what my brain can process right now.

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:07 PM

13. hey, woman.... i have been tired and depressed for oh,

 

a week or two and have not really spent a lot of time with this. i agree. maybe more than a couple weeks.

beaten down...

dont even mess with it. it is that NOT important.

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