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Sat Apr 2, 2016, 11:32 AM

 

Rec If You Are Sick Of Our Pay To Play Corrupt Governemt Ran By The Oligarchs

For the first time I see thousands of people standing up to what they and I see as a completely corrupt government. I call it the gravy train.

Every single major piece of economic legislation benefits the "haves" and not working class, or poor Americans.

Don't even talk about the environment.

If you are one of the many standing up for real change, and want money out of politics please rec this OP.

I am extremely pleased by what I see, like the sheer numbers at the rallies in Seattle.

I think the oligarchs are starting to lose, and they won't be happy. They will also do "what is necessary" to hold onto their death grip on our government. It won't be pretty......

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Reply Rec If You Are Sick Of Our Pay To Play Corrupt Governemt Ran By The Oligarchs (Original post)
Yallow Apr 2016 OP
onecaliberal Apr 2016 #1
choie Apr 2016 #2
rhett o rick Apr 2016 #3
SmittynMo Apr 2016 #6
rhett o rick Apr 2016 #8
zeemike Apr 2016 #16
rhett o rick Apr 2016 #32
Gmak Apr 2016 #30
chervilant Apr 2016 #48
Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2016 #4
NJCher Apr 2016 #5
whereisjustice Apr 2016 #7
TIME TO PANIC Apr 2016 #9
think Apr 2016 #10
GoLeft2004 Apr 2016 #11
pinebox Apr 2016 #12
alfredo Apr 2016 #13
Plucketeer Apr 2016 #15
alfredo Apr 2016 #23
SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #41
SoapBox Apr 2016 #14
raouldukelives Apr 2016 #17
Raster Apr 2016 #18
Half-Century Man Apr 2016 #19
Yallow Apr 2016 #20
dchill Apr 2016 #27
SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #42
bvar22 Apr 2016 #28
maindawg Apr 2016 #21
Yallow Apr 2016 #24
zentrum Apr 2016 #22
colsohlibgal Apr 2016 #25
dchill Apr 2016 #26
azmom Apr 2016 #29
SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #43
ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #31
rhett o rick Apr 2016 #33
ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #46
tikka Apr 2016 #34
SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #44
Feeling the Bern Apr 2016 #35
RecoveringJournalist Apr 2016 #36
LittleGirl Apr 2016 #39
RecoveringJournalist Apr 2016 #49
Oldenuff Apr 2016 #37
Akamai Apr 2016 #38
nenagh Apr 2016 #40
L. Coyote Apr 2016 #45
Yallow Apr 2016 #47

Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 11:33 AM

1. K&R

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 11:45 AM

2. Amen!

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 11:56 AM

3. What the Clinton supporters don't realize is that more and more

 

people are waking up and speaking out against those that have looted the lower 99% for decades.

Seems to me that they want to ignore those living in poverty, those that will lose their lives in more wars for profits for the wealthy, those that will lose their social security and medicare, those without any health coverage.

They seem to ignore those among us struggling for jobs and face the heavy footed politicians that want to hold down wages. Clinton insults us with starting negotiations for min wage at a mere $12 per hour. Obama would have it at $10.

Well here is a message to the Clinton Class that would continue to loot our resources and pollute our environment, we will only take it so long before we kick your greedy fat asses out into the streets to fend for yourselves. We don't want violence and have seen that you are willing to beat, kick, pepper spray, and even kill those that dare don't knuckle under.

To the Clinton Class and their followers, Machiavelli warned against taking everything away and leaving nothing to lose, because the People will fight accordingly.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:00 PM

6. My wife was all HRC a year ago.

Not any more.
P.S. Refer to sig line.

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Response to SmittynMo (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:16 PM

8. I believe that authoritarianism is why people will vote against their best interests.

 

And if that isn't bad enough, they vote against the best interests of those needing help the most. They ignore those among us struggling, just to be a part of the Aristocracy.

See this> http://www.democraticunderground.com/127710250

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:10 PM

16. There us comfort and safety in authoritarianism.

It is infantile...the feeling that the powerful authority figure will take dare of you as long as you obey them.
You may never be one of the aristocracy but you can be one of their servants.

PS...love Eric Fromm.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #16)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:00 PM

32. They attack those of us that want single payer because they know it will make their leaders upset.

 

They will not defend fracking or the TPP, they know better, but they will attack those that are against them. Try to find a post that defends Cllinton's positions. Hard to find. On the other hand, this place is filled with well written posts supporting the positions of Sen Sanders.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 06:27 PM

30. K & R

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 10:53 AM

48. We've witnessed a sea change

in our perceptions of radical income inequity. I know, because I've been decrying this stultifying reality for over a decade and people no longer respond with sarcasm and derision.

We MUST have each others' backs!

Sanders for President!!!

#NotMeUs

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 12:35 PM

4. This is due to the government policy of promoting Capitalism.....

 

The Cold War is over. It's time to reexamine that policy.

Especially since Capitalism has come to mean something negative.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 12:54 PM

5. yep

and note Bernie has never flinched in calling himself a socialist.


Cher

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:04 PM

7. Thanks to DNC leadership, you can always get a payday loan to bribe a candidate...

just as long as its a Democratic candidate we're good with that, unless you are Debiie Wasserman Shultz and then you are allowed to fuck over Democrats by campaigning for Republicans. But only her. She's entitled.

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:27 PM

9. Oligarchs beware! The pitchforks are coming!

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:28 PM

10. K&R!

 

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:31 PM

11. K & R

 

nt.

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:44 PM

12. Boom!

 

Agreed.

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:54 PM

13. Take the money out, we need publicly funded elections.

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Response to alfredo (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:06 PM

15. The money...

 

The money in our political system truly IS the overarching catalyst that sours every potential good thing WE have coming. The DO-NOTHING congress - President Two-Face - The corporate-licking nominee for the SCOTUS. ALL OF THOSE THINGS work AGAINST us - and it's dirty money that propels it all.

We can argue this policy or that inequity or that seemingly looney stance on a topic, but they're all tied to the infections caused by cash.

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Response to Plucketeer (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:15 PM

23. Yes!

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Response to Plucketeer (Reply #15)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:01 AM

41. PRESIDENT Two-Face, who didn't see that happening?

Vague talk of hope and change and being the change you want to see. .blah blah blah and then....BAM!

EAT YOUR PEAS!

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:57 PM

14. Rec'd!

And agreed!

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:14 PM

17. Insane and unsustainable. What's not to like?

Billions in taxpayer subsidies every year direct to the pockets of Wall St shareholders. Owners, one and all, of the most environmentally destructive and politically corrupting industries that have and will most likely ever exist.

People who would never dream of clear cutting a forest or strip mining a mountain with their own hands but have no problem paying and profiting from others doing it for them.

The only way to start getting money out of politics is to keep ones own money out of politics.

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Response to raouldukelives (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:30 PM

18. and let's call it what it is....

...the Clinton's have been been the 1%er Employees of the Month FOR YEARS.

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:01 PM

19. I'm sick of the utter idiocy of equating wealth with value as a human.

Even more so than equating money as a form of speech

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:13 PM

20. This Thread Is Not Meant To Be An Attack On The Clintons

 

It is the whole system that is corrupt from top to bottom.

Everyone goes to work to get paid.

Bill and Hillary are just the best at it.

I don't really blame them so much, as I blame us for tolerating a system where it is so easy to get paid for favors.

It is just way too easy to "take the money".

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Response to Yallow (Reply #20)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:55 PM

27. Some HAVE to "take the money" - when it's $8/hr...

NOBODY has to take $250,000 to give a speech to Wall Street banksters. Even if it's "what they offered."

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Response to dchill (Reply #27)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:04 AM

42. EXACTLY!

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Response to Yallow (Reply #20)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 06:10 PM

28. No. The Koch Brothers are better than the Clintons, and I believe the Bush Family is too,

but the Clintons are catching up fast, and have about as much reservation about taking dirty money as the Mafia.

SEE: Private Prisons and Mass Incarceration, disproportionately PoC.

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:31 PM

21. We are in a class war

 

And the one percent are no longer in full control.!but they are determined to hold on so it's going be rough and those pricks are going to cheat us again and again. What matters is are we going to take it? Or will we stand up and keep fighting? We have a new weapon, it's called the internet. Use it.

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Response to maindawg (Reply #21)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:25 PM

24. Mike Papantonio Said The Class War Is Over

 

It's Class Genocide Now......

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:51 PM

22. KR nt

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:48 PM

25. So So Sick Of It

I am also so disenchanted at so called democrats who just cannot see what is and has been going on. Or share a lack of empathy with the crazy right wing.

Here is where we are: companies like WalMart where the owner amass 100s of millions or a billion or more while paying paltry salaries with paltry benefits. A blank check for the Military Industrial Complex that Ike strongly warned us about over 57 years ago in his farewell from the White House. Scared into a dumb war with Iraq that is costing us trillions, so many lives, and as we see now has unleashed multiple terrorist groups....the gift that keeps on giving.

People with cancer, or with children with cancer, having bake sales and charity events to help pay for it so some big CEO can buy a new pricy sports car or whatever....not only wrong but sick and twisted, for profit health care is beyond evil?

Hillary will be largely down with this program. She will have the Neo dems sleight of hand social liberalism.

Better than any of the remaining republicans yes but not by enough other than socially....and she will always have that scarlet yes on the stupid, stupid, so costly and counterproductive Iraq war.

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:51 PM

26. K&R

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 06:18 PM

29. What is sad is seeing our fellow 99%rs fight

for the oligarchs.

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Response to azmom (Reply #29)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:09 AM

43. That is maddening.

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 07:55 PM

31. I Can Only Add That IF The Oligarchs DON'T START LOSING, This

country can NO LONGER EXIST! THEY fail to see or simply think that RULING will really work out just fine! In a Democracy this CAN NEVER WORK!

So, are we going to be a Democracy and stand up to them or are we going to keep letting people like Trump & Hillary takes us over the cliff???

I can only HOPE the people of this country DO FINALLY WAKE UP and STOP following a person simply because they THINK THEY CAN WIN! It's just that simple!

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Response to ChiciB1 (Reply #31)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:43 PM

33. The Clinton Class are determined to kill the Goose that laid the Golden egg. The Clintons

 

and friends are scrambling for those golden eggs while they can. Even Chelsea has amassed $15 million.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #33)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:51 AM

46. Pretty Disgusting! What's More Though Is That Far Too Many Simply

CAN'T wrap their heads around WHAT it means to elect ANOTHER Clinton!

I've joked at times and referred it to The Land Of The Walking Dead OR Invasion of the Body Snatchers. I know that sounds rough, but it would seem that people would WAKE UP by now! Instead we see that EVEN NOW with ALL we've lost and what America has had to face that a light bulb should have gone off for so many of us who WILL NEVER be able to imagine that kind of money!

I talk to people who aren't following politics like we do, many who DO see and will vote for Bernie, but they just say "things will be fine, don't worry." I have to scratch my head and think to myself, how is it with ALL we've seen that people are so complacent? They like Bernie and so many tell me they'll vote for him, but they just don't want to talk about "issues."

Maybe it's because I feel so deeply that I find this frustrating, but it leaves me feeling sad that actually DO SEE and KNOW we need something different, but they just aren't worried.

But, OTOH I am encouraged that MANY have FINALLY gotten mad enough to start fighting back.

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:32 PM

34. We need a TWO constitutional admendments

The one to overturn Citizen's United where money equals free speech. And, just as importantly, one to remove personhood from corporations. The second would remove one of the tools that the oligarchs love to use.

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Response to tikka (Reply #34)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:14 AM

44. Instead, we'll get the TPP amd double down on the greed and

Corporate corruption.

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 11:41 PM

35. And people vote in droves and openly support a billionaire Republican and a multi-millionaire

 

Democrat. Camp Hair hat vs. Camp Weathervane.

No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the average American voters.

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 11:49 PM

36. Play fair or else

1%ers - here's your warning. Play fair - give back what you've taken - allow evetyone to have a voice. Do this willingly or it's only a matter of time before people with nothing to lose force it upon you. It WILL happen. It's only a matter of time.

And that doesn't mean I necessarily condone it. But it IS inevitable.

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Response to RecoveringJournalist (Reply #36)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:35 AM

39. welcome to DU

Looks like you're from Indy, cheers! Fellow Hoosier.

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Response to LittleGirl (Reply #39)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 06:35 PM

49. Thank you

You are correct. Miss my hometown very much. Miss logic and fair play and equal opportunity for hardworking Americans even more.

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:22 AM

37. and still there are those

 

who champion Clinton.

How will we EVER move forward if we continue to elect the sold out status Quo?

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:00 AM

38. Thom Hartmann has repeatedly cited research showing that the top several percent get through

 

congress the things they want, but for 90% of people, their wishes are the same as noise -- that is, random.

Researchers Martin Gilens (Princeton University) and Benjamin I. Page (Northwestern University) have found this to be the case, and please look to the following for leads to the truth: https://represent.us/action/theproblem-4/

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 03:36 AM

40. K&R

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:45 AM

45. It will be pretty. And joyous. And uplifting. Join the Guillotine Party now!

It won't be pretty for them though, agreed.

Guillotine Party


Founded in 2011

The Guillotine Party is a response to Christian extremists and their attempts at dissolving the federal government. Our mission is to dunk the tea baggers and thwart their hostile takeover of our government. The current political environment has become one where he who screams the loudest wins the day. The right has taken full advantage of this, employing every dirty trick in the book to mislead the American people.

But the pendulum is now set to swing to the left. Voices of reason must be heard over the infantile cries of the non-libertarian right. We have a Constitutional right to defend this nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Right now America is facing a threat from within that is far greater than any potential terrorist attack. The Guillotine Party is a call to defend our country against its domestic enemies.

Mission
Guillotine Party's Platform:

Tea Party's Prospective Cuts- Our party vehemently opposes the following cuts to essential programs for the general welfare:

- $11.2 billion in cuts for early childhood programs
- $8.9 billion in cuts for low-income housing programs
- $7.6 billion in nutritional aid for low-income children (WIC)
- $4.6 billion in cuts for teacher training and afterschool programs
- $4.1 billion in cuts for job training for unemployed workers
- $2.5 billion in cuts for energy bill assistance for the poor
- $2.5 billion in cuts for community health centers
- $2.0 billion in cuts for homeless assistance grants
- $420 million in cuts for legal assistance for the poor
- $317 million in cuts for Planned Parenthood
- All proposed cuts combined = $44 billion

Guillotine Party's Answer- We can cut the deficit by nearly double that amount by eliminating the following tax breaks for the rich:

- $11.5 billion, the per year cost of recent tax cuts for millionaires' estates
- $8.9 billion, mortgage interest deductions for vacation homes
- $6.7 billion, eliminate use of loopholes the rich use to avoid paying taxes
- $5.2 billion, removing limit on itemized deductions for the rich
- $4.1 billion, tax breaks for foreign operations of U.S. financial corps
- $2.5 billion, tax breaks for oil companies
- $4.9 billion, cost of extending alcohol fuel tax breaks
- $2.3 billion, tax loophole for hedge fund managers
- $312 million, cost of allowing companies to write off punative damages
- $303 million, cost of special tax breaks for the timber industry
- $42 billion, one year cost of extending the Bush tax cuts for top brackets

Religion- Absolute separation of church and state applies for both the free exercise clause and the establishment clause of the First Amendment. This means that everyone should be able to worship however they choose but the government cannot endorse one religion at the exclusion of another.

Abortion- Any governmentally imposed obstacle to a woman's ability at obtaining an abortion is a Constitutional violation of that woman's right to privacy.

Health Care- The U.S. currently ranks 36th in life expectancy. This fact is proof that our health care system is not working. We should have a single-payer system based on the Canadian model.

Workers' Rights- We support the Administration's strong enforcement of the NLRA and the strengthening of workers' right to unionize and collectively bargain.

Social Security- There should be absolutely no privatization of social security.

Gay and Lesbian Rights- We believe in equality for all, regardless of sexual orientation. DOMA acts are unconstitutional because they violate a person's fundamental right to marry whom they choose, without showing a furtherance of a compelling governmental interest.

Military- It is time to bring our troops home. Our government can no longer justify the $1.23 trillion that it has spent on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, let alone the loss of human life.

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 10:10 AM

47. When I Posted This Thread I Had No Idea

 

So many people had figured out our government was completely corrupt, and ran by oligarchs.

We need to get the money out.

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