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djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. Funny - Warren as Bernie's VP - just icing on the cake, for me - she would be a partner.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:31 AM
Jan 2016

Warren as Hillary's VP? Cold-hearted political pandering, and a big sigh of relief from the Third Way that Warren would be out of Congress and relegated to the sidelines. If Hillary announced Warren as her VP pick today, it would not change my enthusiastic support for Bernie one iota.

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. Probably not.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 09:52 AM
Jan 2016

Both candidates from New England?

Plus, I think Liz wants to be a US Senator. Like she has said multiple times.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
7. I would certainly vote for that ticket (since I'm voting Bernie anyway), BUT
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 10:20 AM
Jan 2016

I think VP status for Warren would be a HUGE mistake. The VP position is NOT a position of any real power, more of simply an ambassador position but with a better title. No, for my money lets have Bernie as POTUS and Warren as Senate Majority Leader. That would be a far more powerful team for change than having her partner with Bernie as VP. Think about it, especially if you are one of those folks clamoring for Warren to get the VP nod.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
8. It sounds wonderful. But, I doubt that it could happen. Too much
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 11:29 AM
Jan 2016

geographic and ideological closeness. There would be a great deal of pressure to "balance the ticket." I would love to vote for such a ticket. But. I don't think it's going to happen.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
9. "Too much geographic and ideological closeness"
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 12:16 PM
Jan 2016

Seems like ideological closeness would be a benefit, not a setback.

Geographic and ideological closeness didn't hurt the Clinton/Gore ticket...











Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
12. A very strong southern identity in purple states versus a solidly blue New England/NE
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 12:22 PM
Jan 2016

identity in solidly blue states that any Democratic nominee is going to carry anyway is just not the same.

I would not be opposed to such a ticket at Sanders/Warren. I just don't think it would happen even if Sen. Sanders becomes the nominee.

Besides, as others have pointed out - she could very well be a stronger asset in the Senate.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
14. It's certainly the accepted wisdom -but is it truth, or truthiness?
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 01:14 PM
Jan 2016
But the counterargument is a common one — that Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) much-criticized selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin in 2008 indicates that a vice presidential pick actually matters and can do harm. But there’s a problem with that argument — there’s simply no empirical evidence that Palin hurt McCain.

Directly before picking her, a USA Today/Gallup poll showed McCain trailing then-Sen. Barack Obama by 7 points. After picking her, McCain jumped to a 4-point lead — his biggest since January of that year — and it’s often noted that McCain only began to bleed badly after the fall financial crisis.

Those who suggest that a vice president can help in this modern era generally point to the 1992 and 2000 elections, and at last, there’s some empirical proof to back up the claim that a vice presidential candidate can matter.

In 1992, Bill Clinton tapped Tennessee Sen. Al Gore as his running mate. Gore and Clinton shared youth, geographic roots and a centrist Democratic ideology, and Gore helped reinforce Clinton’s message of change at a time when the electorate was pining for a shift in course.

Clinton ultimately won the election, and Gore was credited with playing a significant role in that victory. In fact, CNN’s polling director, Keating Holland, estimates that Gore gave Clinton up to an 11-point bounce after he joined the ticket in July 1992. Clinton opened up a lead in what had been a very tight race and never trailed again.


http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/christian-heinze/242653-whom-to-pick-do-vice-presidents-even-matter

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
10. Jumping the gun. One must be the nominee
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 12:21 PM
Jan 2016

to select a VP candidate. Elizabeth Warren would not accept an invitation at this point, for the same reason she has not endorsed a primary candidate. Bernie Sanders would not offer that position unless he felt assured of the nomination. It's all premature.

It's too early to start talking about VP choices, by far. Until there have been some caucuses and primaries, we have no clue as to who the nominee will be.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
11. Warren would be great as VP but I think we need her in the Senate a while longer
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 12:22 PM
Jan 2016

she can have much more impact on the floor, heading up committees, etc

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
15. I'm with you. We need Bernie in the White House, and Elizabeth in the Senate. What a great
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jan 2016

team they would make! Both of them need to work hard the first two to four years to get
more Progressive Democratic candidates into Congress. When Dems. control both Houses
in sufficient numbers, change in our government will become a reality.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
16. Together, a 100% pro-American force in this country. Anti-Republican, anti-Third Way.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 01:44 PM
Jan 2016

The choice would be VERY clear.

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