2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumApparently Clintons remarks did not win over any Sanders supporters last night....
"Clinton's attempts to reach out to Sanders supporters in the crowd of 2,200 drew some to their feet to hold up pro-Sanders signs in silent protest, while others were more vocal in their disapproval. Sanders and O'Malley have a lot of good ideas and we share a lot of the same values, she said, drawing scattered laughs and no! shouts from Sanders supporters.
Some booed when Clinton said shes the only candidate in the race whos pledged to raise middle-class incomes, not middle-class taxes. Sanders supports the FAMILY Act, which would increase payroll taxes by 0.2 percent, working out to $1.38 a week for the median worker. He argues that its a small price to pay for the expansion of paid family and medical leave benefits that's part of the bill while Clinton says she will pay for the same programs with increased effective tax rates on the wealthy and corporations."
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-07/clinton-and-sanders-go-toe-to-toe-in-nevada
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Obviously I'm a bit biased.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Stop hiding behind Hillary's gender.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)She and her supporters becoming desperATE...and it SHOWS!
840high
(17,196 posts)us she's a woman. Go away.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Fourteen duers weighed in before the victim card was played
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)be treated the same as all candidates and yet when the chips are down, boom they want her to be treated special.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)Could this be 2008?
haikugal
(6,476 posts)dlwickham
(3,316 posts)what a surprise
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Hell even Carly's supporters didn't boo Bernie on his birthday.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)I'm certainly not at all above the tit-for-tat's and exchange of insults here during primary season.
I do find that behavior disgusting though. If I had the privilege of meeting Senator Sanders, I would be respectful.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)literally. 50,000,000 Americans living in poverty because of the greed of the American Aristocracy. This is a class war and HRC (worth approx $50,000,000) is fighting for her friends in the Aristocracy. It's past time for being polite to those that are trying to loot all our resources.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)They don't get it, at all.
Autumn
(45,057 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Minus the xenophobia, racism, wealth entitlement, homophobia, misogynistic, trickle down nonsense, warmongering, scapegoating, poor bashing, anti union, anti veteran...
I'm sorry I lost track of where I was amidst the pure absurdity of your post.
monmouth4
(9,694 posts)n/t
madokie
(51,076 posts)is what this is going to be
George II
(67,782 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)justhanginon
(3,290 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)But I know. Not everybody wants a Progressive America. Correct that. The majority of people do. They just fall prey to the resident propaganda too easily, which is why the vast majority of Americans keep sliding into an economic abyss from which they will never recover with the kind of Democrats we keep putting forward.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
by
reformist2
(9,841 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Smart woman, think she might know something we don't?
George II
(67,782 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Which indicates royalty by birthright.
You are very accurate when you say she's like any Blue-Blooded politician.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Full Definition of Blue Blood
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/blue%20blood
1 ˈblü-ˈbləd : membership in a noble or socially prominent family
2 -ˌbləd : a member of a noble or socially prominent family
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Utopian Leftist
(534 posts)Hillary: "The peasants are revolting!"
We need another stern disciplinarian for President . . . about as much as we need to bring back the French Aristocracy!
KoKo
(84,711 posts)but, then again, that's what those "Blue Blooders" do best. "Regime Change" is always with them to suit their purposes.
As a matter of fact: They are obessed with Regime Change no matter Where it Is or How it is Done!
Tell us, what is life like up there among the "Blue Bloods"?
noun
noun: blue blood; noun: blueblood
a person of noble birth.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)We have no delusions or illusions about Hillary. Her record speaks for itself as do her choices!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Less than $41,000 a year. This is placing a tax burden on low income at the same rate as it does those in the 1% bracket. Yes it is taking money from many who can not make it on the amount they are getting.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I'm sure the benefit will more than make up for it.
Do you ever think about what you're typing?
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Hillary's "faithful" are relying on a divine convention.
madokie
(51,076 posts)pulling shit out of their you know what. I don't mind someone wanting to think stupid shit but when they try to push it off on me and expect me to accept it I don't like that
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)the right question earlier.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I have seen that posters post for a long time and given their positions Thinkingabout seems to be at best a very economically conservative democrat who is against any taxation increases.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Yet now you're claiming taxing the rich is a fantastic idea.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)not only $12.. what a crock of poop
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Last edited Thu Jan 7, 2016, 11:49 PM - Edit history (1)
People that those rates of pay are not "technically" middle class. Middle class begins at about 40$ per hour.
The people like us are just poor.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)then "middle class" is an unreachable goal for me.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)of Americans.
That is why we need a political revolution.
Bernie 2016!
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)And Mendola was a firm Sanders supporter that is until Monday, when he walked into Nashua Community College Monday morning to hear Bill Clinton pitch voters on his wife.
"I was a solid Bernie voter, but now I'm not so sure," Mendola said after listening to the former president's remarks, which focused on the stakes of the election and Hillary Clinton's experience. "If Bernie won the primary and lost the general election, I think that would be disaster. So even if don't like Hillary as much as Bernie, I feel more confident that she would win the general election. And I think that's what's going to persuade me to vote for Hillary if I do."
He was not the only one to express that view here, and the Clinton campaign is hoping many more voters will follow.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hillary-clinton-s-closing-argument-primary-n490486
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)his wisdom must be acknowledged
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Clinton said shes the only candidate in the race whos pledged to raise middle-class incomes, not middle-class taxes.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)I'm sure several devastating losses in a row will set them straight. It is a real shame they have to embarrass themselves like this, though.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)She's already in General Election mode.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)It's a holographic image!!!
reddread
(6,896 posts)thats really a Hillary campaign stop.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)It's amazing what you read here.
reddread
(6,896 posts)except join the reality based community.
Just a few short weeks until Bernie Berns out and Warren endorses Hillary again!
Come on everybody, lets sing the Hillary for President theme song!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Or face the PURGE!
reddread
(6,896 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)I heard Bernie supporters are praying for economic devastation at home.
Im pretty sure Bernie supporters cause cancer and will be the death of Bernie's campaign.
Maybe a flashlight and some GPS will help detect OBVIOUS
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)The 90-ies are over. Stop campaigning as if they aren't.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Bernie needs to convert far more Hillary supporters to have any chance to win the primary.
Meanwhile, Hillary can win with her existing support levels.
Vinca
(50,267 posts)This whole election is becoming terrifying. This has become the year of the outsider and Hillary is as insider as insider can get. I used to think if Trump was the nominee she could beat him easily, but I'm hearing more and more stories about Democrats who support Trump . . . sort of like Reagan Democrats only dumber. If Republicans who think Trump is a nut still vote for him over Hillary, she could be in trouble.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Right now she barely edges out Trump in polls. Trump! That's pathetic.
And after months of negative ads dragging up Clinton slime and scandals, she's toast. The lesser of two evils won't cut it anymore, especially when it isn't really that much lesser.
So yeah, if her goal is to win the nomination, she has a pretty good shot at that. But that's as far as she's going to get.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Up to you.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Before she can lose the general election.
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)Disaster for the Democratic Party, and by extension, the rest of us. If she becomes the nominee, the repugs will mercilessly beat her campaign with negative everything...and they have lots and lots of material to draw from. I fear she would lose the GE, because she simply can't get the independent vote.
merrily
(45,251 posts)But I do have a feeling that she will be the same as she's been all her life.
elias49
(4,259 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)supporters at this democratic event? Yeah,I didn't think so.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)but I don't think it's necessary...do you?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)wealthy and corporations." What a laugh. By the way the "tax rates" don't mean a thing for the wealthy and big corporations. They simply don't pay what the rates are, they find loopholes.
If she were to try to raise the taxes (not rates) on her wealthy friends, they'd demand their money back.
Hillary Clinton is worth close to $50,000,000. She is an American Aristocrat.
How could we believe her given the lifestyle she lives these days? Why should she give a damn about the rest of us? What did "WE" ever do for her?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)influence her decisions. Quid Pro Quo is what her sponsors are counting on.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Then tries to make political hay out of a $1.38 tax hike to pay for family and medical leave for every worker. No moral center, just politics.