Wed Jan 6, 2016, 09:56 PM

floriduck (2,262 posts)

Uh oh. This wasn't supposed to happen.

Sanders cracks Clinton's Nevada firewall

LAS VEGAS – Hillary Clinton has been on the ground in Nevada since last April. Bernie Sanders only began building up his organization here late in the fall.
But the state that’s been touted as Clinton’s firewall against the Vermont senator in the event he generates any momentum out of the whiter and more liberal states of Iowa and New Hampshire is suddenly looking like it’s in play, potentially opening another unexpected early state front.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-nevada-217432#ixzz3wWFvXJyQ

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92 replies	Author	Time	Post
Uh oh. This wasn't supposed to happen. (Original post)	floriduck	Jan 2016	OP
Sounds like Nevada has a lot of	saltpoint	Jan 2016	#1
+1. n/t	bvf	Jan 2016	#2
From the Morning Joe interview this morning...	tex-wyo-dem	Jan 2016	#27
It will keep the energy level	saltpoint	Jan 2016	#62
Nevada has suffered greatly at the hands of the 1%, banksters and such	Proserpina	Jan 2016	#31
Yep -- Nevada's getting it together	saltpoint	Jan 2016	#63
+2	Ivan Kaputski	Jan 2016	#54
Bet you're right. Anyone out	saltpoint	Jan 2016	#61
K&R	CharlotteVale	Jan 2016	#3
Firewall Schmirewall!	in_cog_ni_to	Jan 2016	#4
What evidence?? The latest NV poll (Dec 28) had Hillary up 50-27	DCBob	Jan 2016	#5
The article spoke of the way Sanders was making inroads into what should be a solid Clinton state.	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#6
So no actual polling evidence.	DCBob	Jan 2016	#10
Very disappointing but no longer surprising.	stevenleser	Jan 2016	#12
You should really read the article.	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#16
I think you misunderstood the the article and/or my post. Let me try to be clearer.	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#15
I understood the article...	DCBob	Jan 2016	#19
Feeble? Baseless?	chervilant	Jan 2016	#21
It's a hit and run. But they missed and hit a wall.	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#23
What's amusing are Bernie supporters like you..	DCBob	Jan 2016	#34
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jan 2016	#39
I am guessing you read the title and not the article -- just like you did my posts.	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#22
I read the article and re-read it looking for any substantial evidence.. didn't find it.	DCBob	Jan 2016	#33
Then you didn't understand it.	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#41
It wasn't worth explaining in the first place.	Blus4u	Jan 2016	#56
Whistling past the graveyard	Plucketeer	Jan 2016	#72
No whistling here.. just commenting on a very ignorant article.	DCBob	Jan 2016	#74
Does the polling take into account...	tex-wyo-dem	Jan 2016	#28
Same day polling doesn't only benefit Sanders.	DCBob	Jan 2016	#36
Sanders biggest problem in Nevada is that there aren't enough white males..	DCBob	Jan 2016	#35
I am sorry the article confuses you so. n/t	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#42
LOL.. you appear to be the confused one...	DCBob	Jan 2016	#45
Says the personn who thought the article was about polling, lol n/t	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#52
Without polling evidence to back up the article's claims, its meaningless.	DCBob	Jan 2016	#55
If it was about polling, you'd be right. It isn't. You' aren't. n/t	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#57
If the article made any sense, you'd be right. It doesn't, so you aren't.	DCBob	Jan 2016	#65
When you try to perform hit and runs, you should be more effective at both.	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#75
Whats odd is why your comments focus on me rather than the article.	DCBob	Jan 2016	#76
I explained the article several times.	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#78
Hillary's biggest problem in Nevada is that she tried to disenfranchise Black voters in 2008.	ieoeja	Jan 2016	#47
I think the polling indicates that most Black folks are over 2008 ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jan 2016	#48
I will address both your points	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2016	#51
Lol, they talked to a few folks who said they were voting Bernie.	stevenleser	Jan 2016	#11
No - it's because even polling companies admit polls are faulty these days.	Fawke Em	Jan 2016	#14
What polls are you talking about? The subject matter of the article isnt polling	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#17
Oh, Bob....	Elmer S. E. Dump	Jan 2016	#60
Bernin' down the firewall!!	AzDar	Jan 2016	#7
Set to Pink Floyd's 'The Wall' of course.	greiner3	Jan 2016	#68
Kicked and recommended.	Uncle Joe	Jan 2016	#8
K&R!!!!	Phlem	Jan 2016	#9
My favorite part of the article.	Bleacher Creature	Jan 2016	#13
I lived in northern Nevada	underthematrix	Jan 2016	#18
The article didn't suggest otherwise.	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#24
HRC has LV and Reno and the itty bitty towns	underthematrix	Jan 2016	#25
Again, that isn't in dispute.	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#26
Politico again.	murielm99	Jan 2016	#20
Wow, Bernie got support from a PUMA	jfern	Jan 2016	#29
So did he vote for McCain in November, 2008?	RandySF	Jan 2016	#32
Hillary is up 50-27. Sanders cracking firewalls again?	Alfresco	Jan 2016	#30
Indeed.. what's up with the "cracking firewalls"?	DCBob	Jan 2016	#37
"Cracking a firewall" may not be the best chosen words in light of the data breach.	randome	Jan 2016	#38
I'm wondering if that was intentional	nxylas	Jan 2016	#43
LOL ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jan 2016	#49
50%-27%. Clinton sits pretty comfortably.	seabeyond	Jan 2016	#40
yes, but 50% doesn't a firewall make	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#53
Meh. A win is... the win. game over.	seabeyond	Jan 2016	#69
I heard that same thing in 2008	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#77
I do not see this momentum. I see stalled. IF Sanders wins, I vote for him. Life goes on.	seabeyond	Jan 2016	#79
If you read the article it would be much easier.	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#80
We can tell ourselves whatever stories we want for the future. Merely story telling. I do not live	seabeyond	Jan 2016	#83
Just read the fucking article. If you want to discuss it, please make your post pertain to it.	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#84
No, no. Really. 50 to 27. Watch out, Clinton. SC, 67-31. Momentum.	seabeyond	Jan 2016	#85
If you are only interested in trolling, find another bridge.	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#86
To disagree is to troll?	seabeyond	Jan 2016	#87
No disagreeing is fine.	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#88
Only.... In your opinion, after all.	seabeyond	Jan 2016	#89
It's more of a scientific theory at this point.	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#90
Ha. Lol. The data has been strongly on my side. Which has been my point. Yours? Hope.	seabeyond	Jan 2016	#91
This is my favorite quote	hueymahl	Jan 2016	#44
Matter of time.	dpatbrown	Jan 2016	#46
Firewallls that don't work seem to be a problem with the Clinton Campaign.	bvar22	Jan 2016	#50
Yea, because the other side likes to steal things	leftofcool	Jan 2016	#58
Help me out here...how does someone steal a Firewall?	libdem4life	Jan 2016	#70
The progressive movement must be a reality-based movement.	CSStrowbridge	Jan 2016	#59
Fools miss the point of the article.	floriduck	Jan 2016	#64
Calling fellow Democrats fools is not going to help your cause.	DCBob	Jan 2016	#66
The term fool came from the guy above me.	floriduck	Jan 2016	#67
No one should be calling anyone a fool here.	DCBob	Jan 2016	#71
He only reads titles. n/t	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#82
+1	Gore1FL	Jan 2016	#81
I read the article.	CSStrowbridge	Jan 2016	#92
Huh, I wonder if there's a correlation as to how people get their news?	Babel_17	Jan 2016	#73

Response to floriduck (Original post)

Wed Jan 6, 2016, 10:01 PM

saltpoint (50,986 posts)

1. Sounds like Nevada has a lot of

engaged Democratic volunteers in it at the moment.

And that's a real good thing.

Uh oh. This wasn't supposed to happen.

1. Sounds like Nevada has a lot of

2. +1. n/t

27. From the Morning Joe interview this morning...

62. It will keep the energy level

31. Nevada has suffered greatly at the hands of the 1%, banksters and such

63. Yep -- Nevada's getting it together

54. +2

61. Bet you're right. Anyone out

3. K&R

4. Firewall Schmirewall!

5. What evidence?? The latest NV poll (Dec 28) had Hillary up 50-27

6. The article spoke of the way Sanders was making inroads into what should be a solid Clinton state.

10. So no actual polling evidence.

12. Very disappointing but no longer surprising.

16. You should really read the article.

15. I think you misunderstood the the article and/or my post. Let me try to be clearer.

19. I understood the article...

21. Feeble? Baseless?

23. It's a hit and run. But they missed and hit a wall.

34. What's amusing are Bernie supporters like you..

22. I am guessing you read the title and not the article -- just like you did my posts.

33. I read the article and re-read it looking for any substantial evidence.. didn't find it.

41. Then you didn't understand it.

56. It wasn't worth explaining in the first place.

72. Whistling past the graveyard

74. No whistling here.. just commenting on a very ignorant article.

28. Does the polling take into account...

36. Same day polling doesn't only benefit Sanders.

35. Sanders biggest problem in Nevada is that there aren't enough white males..

42. I am sorry the article confuses you so. n/t

45. LOL.. you appear to be the confused one...

52. Says the personn who thought the article was about polling, lol n/t

55. Without polling evidence to back up the article's claims, its meaningless.

57. If it was about polling, you'd be right. It isn't. You' aren't. n/t

65. If the article made any sense, you'd be right. It doesn't, so you aren't.

75. When you try to perform hit and runs, you should be more effective at both.

76. Whats odd is why your comments focus on me rather than the article.

78. I explained the article several times.

47. Hillary's biggest problem in Nevada is that she tried to disenfranchise Black voters in 2008.

48. I think the polling indicates that most Black folks are over 2008 ...

51. I will address both your points

11. Lol, they talked to a few folks who said they were voting Bernie.

14. No - it's because even polling companies admit polls are faulty these days.

17. What polls are you talking about? The subject matter of the article isnt polling

60. Oh, Bob....

7. Bernin' down the firewall!!

68. Set to Pink Floyd's 'The Wall' of course.

8. Kicked and recommended.

9. K&R!!!!

13. My favorite part of the article.

18. I lived in northern Nevada

24. The article didn't suggest otherwise.

25. HRC has LV and Reno and the itty bitty towns

26. Again, that isn't in dispute.

20. Politico again.

29. Wow, Bernie got support from a PUMA

32. So did he vote for McCain in November, 2008?

30. Hillary is up 50-27. Sanders cracking firewalls again?

37. Indeed.. what's up with the "cracking firewalls"?

38. "Cracking a firewall" may not be the best chosen words in light of the data breach.

43. I'm wondering if that was intentional

49. LOL ...

40. 50%-27%. Clinton sits pretty comfortably.

53. yes, but 50% doesn't a firewall make

69. Meh. A win is... the win. game over.

77. I heard that same thing in 2008

79. I do not see this momentum. I see stalled. IF Sanders wins, I vote for him. Life goes on.

80. If you read the article it would be much easier.

83. We can tell ourselves whatever stories we want for the future. Merely story telling. I do not live

84. Just read the fucking article. If you want to discuss it, please make your post pertain to it.

85. No, no. Really. 50 to 27. Watch out, Clinton. SC, 67-31. Momentum.

86. If you are only interested in trolling, find another bridge.

87. To disagree is to troll?

88. No disagreeing is fine.

89. Only.... In your opinion, after all.

90. It's more of a scientific theory at this point.

91. Ha. Lol. The data has been strongly on my side. Which has been my point. Yours? Hope.

44. This is my favorite quote

46. Matter of time.