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Armstead

(47,803 posts)
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 10:49 AM Jan 2016

A radical "fringe" speech from a Democratic candidate. Keep that commie out of office!

Last edited Sat Jan 2, 2016, 11:20 AM - Edit history (1)

Spoiler: This is an excerpt from a speech from 1936 Comparisons to current candidates are deliberate.


...Tonight I call the roll—the roll of honor of those who stood with us in 1932 and still stand with us today.

Written on it are the names of millions who never had a chance—men at starvation wages, women in sweatshops, children at looms.

Written on it are the names of those who despaired, young men and young women for whom opportunity had become a will-o'-the-wisp.

Written on it are the names of farmers whose acres yielded only bitterness, business men whose books were portents of disaster, home owners who were faced with eviction, frugal citizens whose savings were insecure.

Written there in large letters are the names of countless other Americans of all parties and all faiths, Americans who had eyes to see and hearts to understand, whose consciences were burdened because too many of their fellows were burdened, who looked on these things four years ago and said, "This can be changed. We will change it."

We still lead that army in 1936. They stood with us then because in 1932 they believed. They stand with us today because in 1936 they know. And with them stand millions of new recruits who have come to know.

Their hopes have become our record.

We have not come this far without a struggle and I assure you we cannot go further without a struggle.

For twelve years this Nation was afflicted with hear-nothing, see-nothing, do-nothing Government. The Nation looked to Government but the Government looked away. Nine mocking years with the golden calf and three long years of the scourge! Nine crazy years at the ticker and three long years in the breadlines! Nine mad years of mirage and three long years of despair! Powerful influences strive today to restore that kind of government with its doctrine that that Government is best which is most indifferent.

For nearly four years you have had an Administration which instead of twirling its thumbs has rolled up its sleeves. We will keep our sleeves rolled up.

We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace—business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering.

They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.

Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me—and I welcome their hatred.

I should like to have it said of my first Administration that in it the forces of selfishness and of lust for power met their match. I should like to have it said of my second Administration that in it these forces met their master....

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A radical "fringe" speech from a Democratic candidate. Keep that commie out of office! (Original Post) Armstead Jan 2016 OP
FDR. Great man, Great President. ms liberty Jan 2016 #1
And today he would be attacked by the same people that attack Bernie. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #2
Yup. SoapBox Jan 2016 #3
Hillbots of all stripes would be vilifying him as inelectable. Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #5
Too True!! eom Duval Jan 2016 #7
This is false, FDR had a 80% progressive congress in 4 terms... Sanders is promising similar without uponit7771 Jan 2016 #8
As expected. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #10
Yeah Plucketeer Jan 2016 #14
Obama kicked much ass, I pray he'd have a third term. People who are against the status uponit7771 Jan 2016 #31
FDR did not wait for approval of congres zeemike Jan 2016 #16
This is also false, before FDR had war Powers he was overturned by ussc uponit7771 Jan 2016 #28
Unless Dems have a working majority in the next congress, both House and Senate sarge43 Jan 2016 #18
Clinton isn't promising unicorns and being more realistic with what can be done and not dissing uponit7771 Jan 2016 #29
Right, because trying to reach a compromise with a Repug congress sarge43 Jan 2016 #33
It didn't so he stopped a lot later than I thought he should be o well, he still got ~80% of his uponit7771 Jan 2016 #34
Blame Congress again...But why is that when.... Armstead Jan 2016 #27
There wasn't an 80% PROGRESSIVE congress of democrats like FDR had and that congress lasted uponit7771 Jan 2016 #30
For sure. Thanks for saying it. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #21
Wow. Just Wow. Proserpina Jan 2016 #4
The country doesn't realize how far left it really is, thanks to Repug - and New Dem - brainwashing. reformist2 Jan 2016 #6
FDR is a "radical fringe candidate" in 1936? Sorry, he was neither radical nor fringe. George II Jan 2016 #9
If that speech had come from Sanders you'd be all over him for being an unrealistric commie Armstead Jan 2016 #11
Pretty bold accusation. You know nothing about what I'd do. George II Jan 2016 #12
I'm just basing it on experience Armstead Jan 2016 #17
Still making bold and unsubstantiated accusations. Happy New Year. George II Jan 2016 #24
Good play, Armstead Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #13
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #15
"...enemies of peace—business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, ..." Doctor_J Jan 2016 #19
That is still one of the best descriptions of today we have. jwirr Jan 2016 #20
So true and... PyaarRevolution Jan 2016 #23
Thanks, Armstead. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #22
We definitely need a person representing the 99% as prez today. Economic Royalists need not apply! cascadiance Jan 2016 #25
No place in the DNC for FDR. nt mhatrw Jan 2016 #26
🎇FDR was unmercifully attacked by Father Coughlin and the progressive movement🎇 BlueStateLib Jan 2016 #32
How in the hell is Father Coughlin a representative of "the progressive movement"? mhatrw Jan 2016 #36
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #35

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
8. This is false, FDR had a 80% progressive congress in 4 terms... Sanders is promising similar without
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jan 2016

.. that congress and totally dis's the current president for not getting done what he has no practical plan on following through with...

FDR did no such thing...

SBS is no FDR... not at all

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
14. Yeah
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jan 2016

So let's do the "Obama Third Term Thing". The BIG monies would be just fine with that. Give us, as well, another toothless, de-clawed AG to "enforce" things. Then call the speaker in to talk over "saving" social security.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
31. Obama kicked much ass, I pray he'd have a third term. People who are against the status
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:57 PM
Jan 2016

...quo aren't even being reasonable relative too what America was against with the Bush admin and a historically gerrymandered congress

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
16. FDR did not wait for approval of congres
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 12:57 PM
Jan 2016

He hit the ground running with the CCC in his first year and that program helped millions of family during bad times...and btw, it helped blacks as well as whites.

And his "progressive" congress was largely due to the solid south.

That old excuse that the bad guys won't let him is wearing thin.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
28. This is also false, before FDR had war Powers he was overturned by ussc
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 10:30 AM
Jan 2016

... And still has to answer to congress who were more progressive than he was

sarge43

(28,940 posts)
18. Unless Dems have a working majority in the next congress, both House and Senate
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jan 2016

Clinton won't get the time of day from a Repug congress. What's Clinton's follow through on any of her rather vague plans?

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
29. Clinton isn't promising unicorns and being more realistic with what can be done and not dissing
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:49 PM
Jan 2016

...others for not stepping over the historically gerrymandered congress

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
34. It didn't so he stopped a lot later than I thought he should be o well, he still got ~80% of his
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jan 2016

... agenda done but SBS folk loath him even after that.

I'm done with that kind of thinking

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
27. Blame Congress again...But why is that when....
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 02:38 AM
Jan 2016

There's been Democratic Congresses, not much gets done either? Then its a lot of excuses about "can't offend the 'center' so we can keep our majority."

And or watered down 'reforms' that are tailored to the desires of Corporate America, like the ACA with mandates to buy overpruced health insurance from private companies, and even a mild public option killed by Democrats.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
30. There wasn't an 80% PROGRESSIVE congress of democrats like FDR had and that congress lasted
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jan 2016

... for 59 days...

The sophistry here is the wingerish meme of "the congress was democratic" .. yeah... for 2 months !!!

and those weren't even majority progressive!!!

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
4. Wow. Just Wow.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 12:03 PM
Jan 2016

If FDR were saying this today, they'd call out the National Guard from all the exploding heads making such a noise...

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
6. The country doesn't realize how far left it really is, thanks to Repug - and New Dem - brainwashing.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 12:27 PM
Jan 2016

You list off all the things Bernie stands for individually, and the vast majority of Americans agree. Restrictions on banking and Wall Street. Health care for all. Much higher minimum wages. Higher taxes on the rich. Free education, K-12-college, just like they have in Europe. And no more wars. Emphatically, no more wars!

Pretty liberal.... even "fringe", by corporate media candidate standards.

But ask them what their politics are in general, and they say they are moderates!

We need to change that. This year.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
17. I'm just basing it on experience
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jan 2016

"I welcome their hatred." You really think if Sanders said that you'd be jumping up and down and supporting that?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
19. "...enemies of peace—business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, ..."
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 01:07 PM
Jan 2016

The friends of Hillary's campaign.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
20. That is still one of the best descriptions of today we have.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jan 2016

The only difference is that the enemies of peace are now larger and stronger.

Go Bernie go.

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
23. So true and...
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jan 2016

These people tried to stage a coup and overthrow FDR at that time. It was halted because Smedly Butler reported on it. Frankly I hope FDR threw those people in prison.
This is why, as much as possible, you must encourage competition within' industry and have an alternate, especially for the necessitous goods industries/services like Oil and Healthcare.
Because those industries became such a necessary part of American life they then had the money to bribe government officials and get subsidies to further entrenched themselves and become bigger. This is called Crony Capitalism and it is as much a Cancer today as it was then. Crony Capitalism is a large part of why Marijuana got banned and Hemp by extension. Let us not forget Dupont and Nylon in addition to them making the chemical that whitens the paper coming from wood pulp.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
22. Thanks, Armstead.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jan 2016

I dare the Hillary supporters to quote one speech by Hillary in which she even broaches on the truths that FDR told us and that Bernie is now telling us.

"We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob."

Government by organized money -- makes me think of Reagan, Bush I, Bill Clinton and Bush II and, in so far as the commerce and banking leaders in the Obama administration, of Obama too. Government by organized money.

And organized labor????? Taking a definite back seat.

So many part-time and temporary jobs and no government policies to bring stability into the lives of the many Americans who find no other work.

That has to change somehow.

BlueStateLib

(937 posts)
32. 🎇FDR was unmercifully attacked by Father Coughlin and the progressive movement🎇
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jan 2016

for the New Deal not going far enough

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
36. How in the hell is Father Coughlin a representative of "the progressive movement"?
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 04:40 PM
Jan 2016

His politics were a weird conglomeration of Huey Long, Ron Paul, Jimmy Swaggert and Adolph Hitler.

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