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Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:39 AM

 

Koch Industries Gave To DLC - We Need To Support DLC Candidate? I Say No

Reposted: Koch Industries gave funding to the DLC and served on its Executive Council

http://americablog.com/2010/08/koch-industries-gave-funding-to-the-dlc-and-served-on-its-executive-council.html

"And for $25,000, 28 giant companies found their way onto the DLC’s executive council, including Aetna, AT&T;, American Airlines, AIG, BellSouth, Chevron, DuPont, Enron, IBM, Merck and Company, Microsoft, Philip Morris, Texaco, and Verizon Communications. Few, if any, of these corporations would be seen as leaning Democratic, of course, but here and there are some real surprises. One member of the DLC’s executive council is none other than Koch Industries, the privately held, Kansas-based oil company whose namesake family members are avatars of the far right, having helped to found archconservative institutions like the Cato Institute and Citizens for a Sound Economy. Not only that, but two Koch executives, Richard Fink and Robert P. Hall III, are listed as members of the board of trustees and the event committee, respectively–meaning that they gave significantly more than $25,000."

Sorry, people who take money from the Koch Brothers don't get my support.

3 Choices.

Bernie

Republican

Koch Funded DLC 3rd Way Democrat

I know you will make the right choice.

Hear, hear.

P.S. Hillary did not take money from the Koch Brothers. She (and the big dog) was simply part of the Koch Brother funded DLC. I must make a clarification. I believe they believed moving the Democratic Party to the center would be good politics, and they would get more $$ from the filthy rich to take on Bush 41. Win win. They may have been right, but I don't think so. We are paying for that movement every day now.....

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Reply Koch Industries Gave To DLC - We Need To Support DLC Candidate? I Say No (Original post)
Yallow Dec 2015 OP
Scuba Dec 2015 #1
NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #4
NurseJackie Dec 2015 #2
Yallow Dec 2015 #3
Scuba Dec 2015 #6
bkkyosemite Dec 2015 #11
Chan790 Dec 2015 #12
fleur-de-lisa Dec 2015 #14
NurseJackie Dec 2015 #24
Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #16
jkbRN Dec 2015 #19
Chan790 Dec 2015 #5
Scuba Dec 2015 #7
fredamae Dec 2015 #10
Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #8
Yallow Dec 2015 #9
fredamae Dec 2015 #13
jeff47 Dec 2015 #17
Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #15
jkbRN Dec 2015 #18
Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #20
BlueStateLib Dec 2015 #21
Romulox Dec 2015 #22
Yallow Dec 2015 #23

Response to Yallow (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:45 AM

1. Yeah, but the DLC was renamed "Third Way" and that's headed by just regular Democrats ...

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:59 AM

4.  GOP Donors and K Street Fuel Third Way’s Advice for the Democratic Party

 

The Democratic think tank Third Way relies on money from corporate interests, lobbyists and Republican donors.

Third Way, a group founded in 2005 that is highly active on Capitol Hill, the think tank is merely defending the special interest groups that allow it to exist.

Buried inside the annual report for Third Way is a revelation that the group relies on a peculiar DC consulting firm to raise half a million a year: Peck, Madigan, Jones & Stewart. Peck Madigan is no ordinary nonprofit buckraiser. The group is, in fact, a corporate lobbying firm that represents Deutsche Bank, Intel, the Business Roundtable, Amgen, AT&T, the International Swaps & Derivatives Association, MasterCard, New York Life Insurance, PhRMA and the US Chamber of Commerce, among others.

The two organizations complement each other well. Peck Madigan signs as a lobbyist for the government of New Zealand on the Trans-Pacific Partnership free trade deal; Third Way aggressively promotes the deal. Peck Madigan clients push for entitlement cuts, and so does Third Way.

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There is a long and storied tradition of corporate, right-wing interests seeking to shape the economic policies of the Democratic Party. The DLC, another Third Way–style group that folded in 2011, was funded by none other than Koch Industries. Richard Fink, a strategist to the Koch brothers who helped found what is now known as Americans for Prosperity, was on the DLC’s board.

Washington’s Big Business–friendly press has greeted the Third Way column as a “game changer.” But these arguments aren’t new, and neither are the strategies. Large corporations have many ways of finding useful surrogates, and Third Way is a prime example.

http://www.thenation.com/article/gop-donors-and-k-street-fuel-third-ways-advice-democratic-party/

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:49 AM

2. Other than Bernie's hardcore fans ...


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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:52 AM

3. I'm Expected To Work Harder And Settle For Less

 

Who cares?

Bernie.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:00 PM

6. You may like being owned, but I don't.

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:24 PM

11. Why would you not care?

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:25 PM

12. Not caring makes you not a real Democrat.

 

Although, your Hillary avatar already did that for you.

For people like NurseJackie who are demonstrably not Democrats...I don't care what you think.

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Response to Chan790 (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:43 PM

14. Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT

On Wed Dec 30, 2015, 08:33 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Not caring makes you not a real Democrat.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=959629

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"For people like NurseJackie who are demonstrably not Democrats...I don't care what you think" is seriously inappropriate. This is DU and we're better than that.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Dec 30, 2015, 08:41 AM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: GDP - 'nuff said.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Be nice, because wherever you go, there you are. This post was not nice.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I'm reading this as a call-out.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Koch-> DLC-> HRC = democracy? Things that make you go, "Hmm."
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Clear cu personal attack.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If the truth hurts you change it, you don't ban it.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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Response to Chan790 (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 05:24 PM

24. But I *live* for your approval!! I'm crushed! Heartbroken!


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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:47 PM

16. Pretty much all those voters whom Sanders might win for us with his cross-over appeal. n/t

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 02:09 PM

19. Are you proud of this system, "nurse" Jackie?

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:00 PM

5. Nope. The moment they got in bed with Al From and David Koch...they ceased to be Democrats...

 

as opposed to Republican infidels registered as Democrats for purposes of disruption. They're electoral trolls pushing Republican astroturf...not Democrats.

Not entitled to votes or any sort of loyalty expectation. If other Democrats want to vote for them, they can elect Republicans like Hillary just as well without me.

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Response to Chan790 (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:01 PM

7. ^^ This right here ^^

 

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Response to Chan790 (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:17 PM

10. 100% Agree with you! n/t

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:07 PM

8. The important thing is that the Koch brothers

 

are not white working class men, so it is ok.

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:08 PM

9. "We are paying for that movement every day now....."

 

Just look at congress, and the senate.

Millions don't vote because they think both parties are the same.

We all know they are not the same, but in too many ways they are pretty close.

Imagine if every single non rich American understood one party stood for them, and the other for the billionaires.

Would there even be Republicans (even though their friends control the media, and everything else) ?

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Response to Yallow (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:27 PM

13. Addtionally Look at

State legislatures and Governors! Oregon, for instance has Tri-Fecta Dems serving yet they all Vote like NeoLibs along with the NeoCons. Oregon has, under the ruse of "blue state Dem values" has granted and now boasted the Lowest Corp Tax Rate in the Country as Schools are cut, taxes and fees are raised as property Values Drop. The revenue burden, like in any Red State is passed off to the Poor, Elderly and Sick.
NLG Pipelines are in the works, Parks being Sold, Nestles trying to take Our water, Bakken Oil on the rails....Failures to pass Effective Gun safety measures...and people Wonder why the Dem and GOP party's are losing registrants by the thousands!
There is, at the top-no way to tell which party an incumbent aligns with based solely on their floor Votes and sponsored legislation!

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Response to Yallow (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:56 PM

17. One party does not stand for them.

At least beyond lip service.

We're trying to change that.

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:45 PM

15. If Koch funds it, that is reason enough to oppose it.

 

How to oppose the DLC /third way? - Vote O'Malley. - Vote Sanders.

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 02:05 PM

18. Please get the Clintons away from the White House ASAP

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 02:40 PM

20. NO more CORPORATE Dems - ever



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Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 04:45 PM

21. Truman was referring to the progressive republican govenor of kansas Estes Kefauver

Truman was referring to the progressive republican governor of kansas Estes Kefauver who switched parties and was running as a democrat and knock him (Truman) out of the 1952 primary. Truman hated Kefauver and the progressives and blamed them for his low poll numbers with their criticism of the new deal from the far left...

Address at the National Convention Banquet of the Americans for Democratic Action

Truman: "You held firm against the fanatical and misguided attacks of the Wallace movement."

Truman: "The people don't want a phony Democrat. If it's a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat, and I don't want any phony Democratic candidates in this campaign."
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/publicpapers/index.php?pid=1296

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Response to Yallow (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 04:48 PM

22. There is no Quid Pro Quo! It's just a coincidence Hillary gets $250K/speech from those same donors.

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Response to Romulox (Reply #22)

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 05:22 PM

23. Quid And Pro And Quo

 

Just legal....

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