Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:08 PM
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Author | Time | Post |
 Democratic Debate Thread 4 (Original post) |
longship | Dec 2015 | OP |
| ScreamingMeemie | Dec 2015 | #1 | |
| bullwinkle428 | Dec 2015 | #2 | |
| demmiblue | Dec 2015 | #3 | |
| still_one | Dec 2015 | #4 | |
| mindwalker_i | Dec 2015 | #5 | |
| longship | Dec 2015 | #10 | |
| Android3.14 | Dec 2015 | #132 | |
| mindwalker_i | Dec 2015 | #136 | |
| femmocrat | Dec 2015 | #6 | |
| demmiblue | Dec 2015 | #7 | |
| femmocrat | Dec 2015 | #12 | |
| one_voice | Dec 2015 | #8 | |
| nc4bo | Dec 2015 | #9 | |
| global1 | Dec 2015 | #11 | |
| Hepburn | Dec 2015 | #13 | |
| MoonRiver | Dec 2015 | #21 | |
| bobbobbins01 | Dec 2015 | #14 | |
| Hepburn | Dec 2015 | #31 | |
| longship | Dec 2015 | #15 | |
| longship | Dec 2015 | #16 | |
| Renew Deal | Dec 2015 | #17 | |
| longship | Dec 2015 | #20 | |
| Renew Deal | Dec 2015 | #23 | |
| mindwalker_i | Dec 2015 | #37 | |
| Marty McGraw | Jan 2016 | #139 | |
| mindwalker_i | Jan 2016 | #140 | |
| BlueCheese | Dec 2015 | #25 | |
| longship | Dec 2015 | #35 | |
| BlueCheese | Dec 2015 | #18 | |
| Gregorian | Dec 2015 | #19 | |
| Kentonio | Dec 2015 | #22 | |
| firebrand80 | Dec 2015 | #24 | |
| valerief | Dec 2015 | #29 | |
| firebrand80 | Dec 2015 | #34 | |
| valerief | Dec 2015 | #43 | |
| firebrand80 | Dec 2015 | #58 | |
| valerief | Dec 2015 | #73 | |
| firebrand80 | Dec 2015 | #75 | |
| elleng | Dec 2015 | #45 | |
| valerief | Dec 2015 | #26 | |
| Renew Deal | Dec 2015 | #32 | |
| valerief | Dec 2015 | #50 | |
| Dragonfli | Dec 2015 | #89 | |
| lark | Dec 2015 | #137 | |
| alfredo | Dec 2015 | #133 | |
| elleng | Dec 2015 | #27 | |
| MH1 | Dec 2015 | #78 | |
| elleng | Dec 2015 | #92 | |
| longship | Dec 2015 | #28 | |
| Renew Deal | Dec 2015 | #30 | |
| Robbins | Dec 2015 | #33 | |
| nc4bo | Dec 2015 | #36 | |
| MoonRiver | Dec 2015 | #39 | |
| Renew Deal | Dec 2015 | #38 | |
| MoonRiver | Dec 2015 | #42 | |
| CTyankee | Dec 2015 | #138 | |
| MH1 | Dec 2015 | #40 | |
| demmiblue | Dec 2015 | #53 | |
| Kentonio | Dec 2015 | #55 | |
| Dem2 | Dec 2015 | #114 | |
| MH1 | Dec 2015 | #121 | |
| Dem2 | Dec 2015 | #124 | |
| Renew Deal | Dec 2015 | #41 | |
| MoonRiver | Dec 2015 | #47 | |
| still_one | Dec 2015 | #62 | |
| EndElectoral | Dec 2015 | #76 | |
| still_one | Dec 2015 | #125 | |
| Gregorian | Dec 2015 | #44 | |
| nc4bo | Dec 2015 | #51 | |
| ProudToBeLiberal | Dec 2015 | #46 | |
| Renew Deal | Dec 2015 | #48 | |
| femmocrat | Dec 2015 | #61 | |
| Renew Deal | Dec 2015 | #64 | |
| BlueCheese | Dec 2015 | #49 | |
| Hepburn | Dec 2015 | #60 | |
| LuvLoogie | Dec 2015 | #77 | |
| bobbobbins01 | Dec 2015 | #69 | |
| frylock | Dec 2015 | #81 | |
| Hepburn | Dec 2015 | #82 | |
| ViseGrip | Dec 2015 | #130 | |
| Gregorian | Dec 2015 | #52 | |
| longship | Dec 2015 | #131 | |
| bettyellen | Dec 2015 | #54 | |
| BlueCheese | Dec 2015 | #56 | |
| BlueCheese | Dec 2015 | #66 | |
| bettyellen | Dec 2015 | #67 | |
| ViseGrip | Dec 2015 | #129 | |
| longship | Dec 2015 | #57 | |
| Hepburn | Dec 2015 | #63 | |
| valerief | Dec 2015 | #68 | |
| Renew Deal | Dec 2015 | #59 | |
| bettyellen | Dec 2015 | #65 | |
| Renew Deal | Dec 2015 | #71 | |
| bettyellen | Dec 2015 | #95 | |
| nolabear | Dec 2015 | #84 | |
| elleng | Dec 2015 | #70 | |
| MH1 | Dec 2015 | #83 | |
| elleng | Dec 2015 | #97 | |
| longship | Dec 2015 | #72 | |
| Kentonio | Dec 2015 | #74 | |
| MH1 | Dec 2015 | #88 | |
| MH1 | Dec 2015 | #90 | |
| Hepburn | Dec 2015 | #93 | |
| MH1 | Dec 2015 | #98 | |
| Kentonio | Dec 2015 | #94 | |
| BlueCheese | Dec 2015 | #79 | |
| Hepburn | Dec 2015 | #85 | |
| erpowers | Dec 2015 | #135 | |
| demmiblue | Dec 2015 | #80 | |
| longship | Dec 2015 | #86 | |
| Renew Deal | Dec 2015 | #87 | |
| firebrand80 | Dec 2015 | #91 | |
| longship | Dec 2015 | #96 | |
| Renew Deal | Dec 2015 | #99 | |
| firebrand80 | Dec 2015 | #100 | |
| EndElectoral | Dec 2015 | #101 | |
| MH1 | Dec 2015 | #106 | |
| bettyellen | Dec 2015 | #102 | |
| brooklynite | Dec 2015 | #109 | |
| bettyellen | Dec 2015 | #127 | |
| longship | Dec 2015 | #103 | |
| demmiblue | Dec 2015 | #104 | |
| firebrand80 | Dec 2015 | #105 | |
| femmocrat | Dec 2015 | #107 | |
| Renew Deal | Dec 2015 | #108 | |
| LittleBlue | Dec 2015 | #110 | |
| IcyPeas | Dec 2015 | #111 | |
| BlueCheese | Dec 2015 | #112 | |
| ProudToBeLiberal | Dec 2015 | #113 | |
| liberalnarb | Dec 2015 | #115 | |
| flying rabbit | Dec 2015 | #117 | |
| Kentonio | Dec 2015 | #116 | |
| demmiblue | Dec 2015 | #118 | |
| longship | Dec 2015 | #126 | |
| BlueCheese | Dec 2015 | #119 | |
| mvd | Dec 2015 | #120 | |
| longship | Dec 2015 | #122 | |
| L. Coyote | Dec 2015 | #123 | |
| flying rabbit | Dec 2015 | #128 | |
| bigwillq | Dec 2015 | #134 | |
| slipslidingaway | Jan 2016 | #141 | |
| longship | Jan 2016 | #142 | |
| slipslidingaway | Jan 2016 | #143 | |
| rtracey | Jan 2016 | #144 | |
| demwing | Jan 2016 | #145 |
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:09 PM
bullwinkle428 (19,089 posts)
2. Shouldn't this be thread 4?
Response to demmiblue (Reply #3)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:10 PM
still_one (76,802 posts)
4. six minute abs. Crazy talk
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:10 PM
5. How about 4 + 3i?
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Lots of complex issues
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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #5)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:17 PM
10. I am all over complex analysis, but not in this debate. Pretty simple, actually. nt
Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #5)
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:46 AM
132. Now you are just being plane imaginary
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Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:12 PM
femmocrat (28,194 posts)
6. Will Hillary get back in time?
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We'll see!
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Response to femmocrat (Reply #6)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:15 PM
demmiblue (30,187 posts)
7. Well, I just...
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Used the bathroom
Washed my hands Brushed my teeth Scritched my dog I'm here on time! |
Response to demmiblue (Reply #7)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:20 PM
femmocrat (28,194 posts)
12. I bet it's kind of like a boxing match back stage.
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The candidates go to their corners and get their trainers to clean them off and prop them back up to go out there for another round!
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Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:15 PM
one_voice (20,043 posts)
8. Now BLM.
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:16 PM
9. Rahm Emmanuel also said something akin to the Ferguson-effect.nt
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:17 PM
global1 (22,359 posts)
11. George S. Just Had To Make A Comment In Favor Of Hillary....
Response to global1 (Reply #11)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:20 PM
13. They are part of corporate America...not unexpected...
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:21 PM
14. Bernie killing it right now about criminal justice, etc.
Response to longship (Reply #16)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:22 PM
Renew Deal (79,243 posts)
17. Can you imagine the republicans being asked such a question?
Response to longship (Reply #20)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:25 PM
Renew Deal (79,243 posts)
23. Hillary mentioned a plan. I found the link
Response to Renew Deal (Reply #17)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:30 PM
37. The repubs would be better of ON heroin
Response to Marty McGraw (Reply #139)
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:14 AM
140. Ha, you got it before next year
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... at least from Pacific time
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Response to longship (Reply #16)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:26 PM
25. It's "heroin"
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"Heroine" is something entirely different.
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Response to BlueCheese (Reply #25)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:29 PM
35. Bad cheese, very bad cheese!
Glad to have your contribution here. 
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Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:23 PM
18. There are some people who think that one reason Vermont and New Hampshire...
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:24 PM
19. Addiction is a disease, not a crime. Bernie knows what works.
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:25 PM
24. Hillary and O'Malley give anecdotes on addiction
Response to firebrand80 (Reply #24)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:27 PM
29. He's just not a warm and fuzzy guy. He won't change. That's fine with me. nt
Response to valerief (Reply #29)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:29 PM
34. Understood, but it helps win more votes nt
Response to firebrand80 (Reply #34)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:32 PM
43. But if he does it poorly, it turns off voters. Better to not do it at all. nt
Response to firebrand80 (Reply #58)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:39 PM
73. Looks like Bernie did it while talking about his wife Jane! Ha!!!
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He must have heard us.
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Response to firebrand80 (Reply #24)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:32 PM
elleng (104,559 posts)
45. No 'anecdote' by O'Malley, a PLAN:
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:26 PM
26. Heroin epidemic? Wasn't that was why our troops were in Afghanistan?
Response to valerief (Reply #26)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:28 PM
Renew Deal (79,243 posts)
32. No, they were there because of 9/11
Response to Renew Deal (Reply #32)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:45 PM
89. I thought we went to Iraq because 911 that was why Hillary voted for it
Response to Renew Deal (Reply #32)
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:25 AM
lark (17,586 posts)
137. NO, that was the excuse.
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We were there for Unocal and an oil pipeline and the war machine. The rest is the excuse they let happen. Cheney foretold this when he went to AFghanistan and said we will carpet your country in money if you sign the agreement or we will carpet your country in blood if you don't. I'm not a big believer in coincidence, but yes am
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Response to valerief (Reply #26)
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:55 AM
alfredo (59,004 posts)
133. Blame that on Richard Secord. He has a history of shady dealings in war zones.
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:27 PM
elleng (104,559 posts)
27. MO'M on Addiction treatment and prevention
Response to MH1 (Reply #78)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:47 PM
elleng (104,559 posts)
92. Thanks. You should write to him/his campaign about that.
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:27 PM
28. Well, concerning opiates, they could start with Rush Limbaugh.
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Just saying.
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Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:27 PM
Renew Deal (79,243 posts)
30. Back to Lybia... How much does Hillary bare for chaos there?
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:28 PM
33. Oh God
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moderater allowed clinton to go back to libya to push her hawkish ways
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Response to Robbins (Reply #33)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:31 PM
MoonRiver (35,037 posts)
39. He didn't ALLOW her to do anything!
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He asked her about Libya for God's sake. She answered the question.
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Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:30 PM
Renew Deal (79,243 posts)
38. Hillary has a good answer about Libya
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #38)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:32 PM
MoonRiver (35,037 posts)
42. Yes she did.
Response to Renew Deal (Reply #38)
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:34 AM
CTyankee (58,352 posts)
138. And she even knows where it is, unlike some repubs.
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So we can start there. Then move forward. I don't think an R candidate who isn't up to speed on Libya can possibly win in an argument with HRC but they love to blame her all the time so that is where they will go. I think she (or any candidate we have) should stay away from anything that can easily be copped for an R soundbite, such as "What difference does it make?"
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Of course, it is all ridiculous with these RWers, like another universe entirely... |
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:32 PM
40. Not sure I like the hawkishness on alleged "over-prescribing"
Response to MH1 (Reply #40)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:51 PM
114. I had to shake my head in the affirmative though
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This is the DU member formerly known as Dem2.
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Response to Dem2 (Reply #114)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:56 PM
121. Oh I agree with your frustration at the situation you describe.
Response to MH1 (Reply #121)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:01 PM
124. OK, thanks - I will take your word on the chronic pain management
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This is the DU member formerly known as Dem2.
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Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:32 PM
Renew Deal (79,243 posts)
41. Hillary calls out Sanders for voting for regime change in Libya
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #41)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:33 PM
MoonRiver (35,037 posts)
47. As she should.
Response to Renew Deal (Reply #41)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:36 PM
still_one (76,802 posts)
62. That is what you are supposed to do in debates. If one candidate find a weakness or an incorrect
Response to still_one (Reply #62)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:40 PM
76. Bernie made mistake by raising his hand to try and respond. Just talk over moderators.
Response to EndElectoral (Reply #76)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:02 PM
still_one (76,802 posts)
125. This is all about assertiveness without being rude. Not easy to pull off
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:32 PM
44. Thank you Bernie for pointing out that wars have consequences!
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:33 PM
46. We were talking about the economy and all of a sudden we get libya. wtf o.o nt
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:33 PM
Renew Deal (79,243 posts)
48. "Is it time to change the role of a presidents spouse?"
Response to Renew Deal (Reply #48)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:36 PM
femmocrat (28,194 posts)
61. Dopey question time.
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:34 PM
49. Clinton has obvious mastery of foreign policy knowledge.
Response to BlueCheese (Reply #49)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:39 PM
69. I'd agree...she has knowledge, she just lacks wisdom.
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:35 PM
52. Who is this goulish moderator? It's like Night Of The Living Debate.
Response to Gregorian (Reply #52)
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:43 AM
131. DUzy!
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Just going back through these threads and saw this.
Priceless response. 
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Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:35 PM
56. These questions about presidential spouses are asinine.
Response to BlueCheese (Reply #56)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:37 PM
66. After the kerfuffle about the data breach over the last two days...
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:35 PM
57. Oh dear. I thought I liked Martha Raditiz. Not so sure now.
Response to longship (Reply #57)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:38 PM
68. I know! What a dreadful question. nt
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:35 PM
Renew Deal (79,243 posts)
59. Hillary: "I'm going to pick the flowers and the china for state dinners."
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Response to bettyellen (Reply #65)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:39 PM
Renew Deal (79,243 posts)
71. I would go with the "I'm concerned with the issues american people face" answer
Response to Renew Deal (Reply #59)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:43 PM
nolabear (37,940 posts)
84. "...and fry them up in the pan."
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It was that stupid a question, but I think they always have to have a wind-down. |
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:39 PM
elleng (104,559 posts)
70. KATY O'MALLEY for FIRST LADY!!!
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Response to elleng (Reply #70)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:42 PM
83. I think a lot of the audience liked the way MO'M responded on that question.
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I sure did.
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Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:39 PM
72. And now it is about spouses, instead of the rest of this debate, on important issues.
Response to Kentonio (Reply #74)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:44 PM
88. Yes, I thought it was a bogus question at first, but Martin's response was great.
Response to MH1 (Reply #88)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:45 PM
90. Clinton gets the first word, and Clinton gets the last word. Huh.
Response to MH1 (Reply #90)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:47 PM
93. Except at the end where it's reverse alphabetical...
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:41 PM
79. The ABC news people are spending the break in a Democratic debate...
Response to BlueCheese (Reply #79)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:43 PM
85. This is just so bad...really bad...horrible debate...
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:41 PM
demmiblue (30,187 posts)
80. Both Sanders and O'Malley had wonderful, heartfelt responses.
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Don't mess with Katy!
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Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:44 PM
Renew Deal (79,243 posts)
87. Closing statements. Sanders "We have a lot more to offer than the RW extremists."
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:47 PM
96. They can have their anger. O'Malley! nt
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:48 PM
Renew Deal (79,243 posts)
99. O'Malley: Climate change "is the greatest business opportunity in the last 100 years."
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:48 PM
100. O'Malley should just get on his knees
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:49 PM
101. Why did Clinton get to go first, and speak last?
Response to bettyellen (Reply #102)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:50 PM
brooklynite (68,561 posts)
109. "May the Force Be With You"
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:49 PM
103. Social Security, which they portray as a Ponzi scheme. Hillary Clinton. nt
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:49 PM
demmiblue (30,187 posts)
104. Fear, fear, fear...is not what I want to hear. n/t
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:50 PM
femmocrat (28,194 posts)
107. "May the force be with you!"
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Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:50 PM
Renew Deal (79,243 posts)
108. Hillary closes with "May the force be with you" to wild cheers.
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:50 PM
IcyPeas (12,807 posts)
111. Hillary: perfect ending
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:50 PM
112. I was really afraid Clinton was leading up to the cliche, "God bless America" at the end.
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:50 PM
113. Good night and may the force be with you -Hillary Clinton
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:54 PM
demmiblue (30,187 posts)
118. Thank you, longship, for starting the debate threads.
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Response to demmiblue (Reply #118)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:03 PM
126. You are most welcome.
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I wanted threads which encouraged discussion, not childish tantrums. So I took the initiative. I think it worked out well.
My best to you. 
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Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:54 PM
119. The candidates are so much better speaking for themselves...
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:55 PM
mvd (63,176 posts)
120. Thought Bernie did great!
Response to longship (Original post)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:57 PM
122. Thank you very much for all of your participitations.
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Last edited Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:51 AM - Edit history (1) One thing we can all agree upon is that, the Democratic Party is united, in spite of policy differences.
And get this very, very clearly. The DNC data base breech is nothing compared to what we have to fight. Tonight proved that beyond debate. (So to speak.) We unite, or we lose. And let nobody here say that they will not support the Democratic nominee. The alternative is too horrible to consider. Thank you all for your contributions. I love you all. 
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Response to longship (Original post)
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:26 AM
141. Was there a debate tonight? Did not watch the last one, would almost not be surprised if the Dems...
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held a New Year's Eve debate as they have totally screwed up their debate schedule and let the Repubs have control of corporate media.
If some Repub wins we can look to our party leaders to blame, this was our election to lose. 
And the Dems 'supposedly' want universal HC but they do not fight for it, just calling a spade a spade. No sugar coating and blaming the other party for our faults. |
Response to slipslidingaway (Reply #141)
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 03:47 AM
142. Dec 19. These threads have been up for a while.
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My best to you. And Happy New Year to you.
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Response to longship (Reply #142)
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 04:00 AM
143. Well we did not watch, spending time with family ...
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but I will say that if the Dems lose they played the game horribly, ceding valuable prime time media attention to the Repubs.
Happy New Year to you and yours!
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