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Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:04 PM

Democratic Debate Thread 2

So far, so good!

Let's keep the respectful discussion going.

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Reply Democratic Debate Thread 2 (Original post)
longship Dec 2015 OP
nolabear Dec 2015 #1
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #2
longship Dec 2015 #5
longship Dec 2015 #3
zappaman Dec 2015 #4
MoonRiver Dec 2015 #6
nolabear Dec 2015 #15
MoonRiver Dec 2015 #22
bullwinkle428 Dec 2015 #14
nc4bo Dec 2015 #17
global1 Dec 2015 #25
zappaman Dec 2015 #145
artislife Dec 2015 #137
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #7
still_one Dec 2015 #10
TCJ70 Dec 2015 #11
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #19
MH1 Dec 2015 #21
questionseverything Dec 2015 #24
LittleBlue Dec 2015 #8
TCJ70 Dec 2015 #12
nolabear Dec 2015 #27
elleng Dec 2015 #18
JDPriestly Dec 2015 #139
Robbins Dec 2015 #9
still_one Dec 2015 #20
Hekate Dec 2015 #61
MH1 Dec 2015 #13
global1 Dec 2015 #32
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #16
bullwinkle428 Dec 2015 #23
still_one Dec 2015 #29
Tipperary Dec 2015 #54
pacalo Dec 2015 #36
longship Dec 2015 #26
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #28
PghTiny Dec 2015 #30
restorefreedom Dec 2015 #34
firebrand80 Dec 2015 #31
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #33
ProudToBeLiberal Dec 2015 #35
Hepburn Dec 2015 #40
bobbobbins01 Dec 2015 #44
Hepburn Dec 2015 #50
Zorro Dec 2015 #37
xloadiex Dec 2015 #38
elleng Dec 2015 #43
Tipperary Dec 2015 #45
LittleBlue Dec 2015 #39
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #41
longship Dec 2015 #42
denem Dec 2015 #55
Punkingal Dec 2015 #46
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #48
JDPriestly Dec 2015 #142
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #47
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #51
Robbins Dec 2015 #49
Matariki Dec 2015 #53
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #57
MoonRiver Dec 2015 #69
nolabear Dec 2015 #77
artislife Dec 2015 #140
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #52
valerief Dec 2015 #56
shawn703 Dec 2015 #58
bullwinkle428 Dec 2015 #66
shawn703 Dec 2015 #80
elleng Dec 2015 #102
demmiblue Dec 2015 #59
longship Dec 2015 #73
firebrand80 Dec 2015 #60
cantbeserious Dec 2015 #67
firebrand80 Dec 2015 #71
cantbeserious Dec 2015 #78
firebrand80 Dec 2015 #89
cantbeserious Dec 2015 #100
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #62
El Supremo Dec 2015 #72
TexasBushwhacker Dec 2015 #82
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #91
longship Dec 2015 #63
Gregorian Dec 2015 #64
LittleBlue Dec 2015 #65
elleng Dec 2015 #75
demmiblue Dec 2015 #68
karynnj Dec 2015 #70
Hepburn Dec 2015 #84
karynnj Dec 2015 #116
still_one Dec 2015 #86
karynnj Dec 2015 #106
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #74
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #79
longship Dec 2015 #93
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #96
global1 Dec 2015 #76
elleng Dec 2015 #87
firebrand80 Dec 2015 #94
LittleBlue Dec 2015 #107
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #121
nc4bo Dec 2015 #81
still_one Dec 2015 #97
TexasBushwhacker Dec 2015 #120
still_one Dec 2015 #127
TexasBushwhacker Dec 2015 #138
still_one Dec 2015 #141
ProudToBeLiberal Dec 2015 #83
ProudToBeLiberal Dec 2015 #115
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #85
still_one Dec 2015 #103
awake Dec 2015 #108
NYCButterfinger Dec 2015 #88
longship Dec 2015 #104
NYCButterfinger Dec 2015 #134
MH1 Dec 2015 #90
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #95
Hepburn Dec 2015 #98
MH1 Dec 2015 #112
LittleBlue Dec 2015 #92
still_one Dec 2015 #109
Punkingal Dec 2015 #99
restorefreedom Dec 2015 #101
Hepburn Dec 2015 #110
still_one Dec 2015 #118
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #122
still_one Dec 2015 #129
Hepburn Dec 2015 #126
still_one Dec 2015 #135
Punkingal Dec 2015 #147
nolabear Dec 2015 #117
EndElectoral Dec 2015 #124
pangaia Dec 2015 #105
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #111
nolabear Dec 2015 #113
JimDandy Dec 2015 #123
nolabear Dec 2015 #128
mvd Dec 2015 #114
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #119
longship Dec 2015 #125
SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2015 #130
Kentonio Dec 2015 #131
MADem Dec 2015 #132
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #133
still_one Dec 2015 #136
Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #143
ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2015 #144
bkkyosemite Dec 2015 #146

Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:07 PM

1. These guys, all of them, make me feel more hopeful for the country.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:07 PM

2. They are much more serious.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:09 PM

5. You have it, my good friend. nt

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Response to nolabear (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:08 PM

3. I think that it is the idea.

Sadly too often forgotten here on DU. Just saying.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:08 PM

4. How any American could see these 3 candidates

And then vote for one of the buffoons on the other side is beyond me.

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Response to zappaman (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:10 PM

6. Or not vote for our nominee.

Unbelievable

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:13 PM

15. Both Bernie and Hillary know this. I hope the supporters of both do too.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:14 PM

22. Hope the vast majority do.

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Response to zappaman (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:12 PM

14. I wish more Americans were getting to see these three.

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Response to zappaman (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:13 PM

17. THAT'S the problem, not many people will see it.

I expect these ratings to abysmal, just like the rest of the debates.

American people lose again.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:15 PM

25. You Can Thank DWS/DNC For That...nt

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Response to global1 (Reply #25)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:26 PM

145. No, you can thank the fact that we have adults on our side.

The other side is batshit crazy and everyone watches to see what batshit crazy thing they're going to say...

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Response to zappaman (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:51 PM

137. Maybe because we see how their supporters are

 

Nice sigline..

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:11 PM

7. Sanders is right to want to answer the same question.

There are three people on the stage and there should be three answers.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:11 PM

10. I agree

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:11 PM

11. Agreed...

...it's not like the republican debates where there would only be 3 questions they could all answer.

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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:13 PM

19. lol

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:14 PM

21. I agree, just posted the same thing.

Last 3 questions, Clinton has gotten to answer each. Either Bernie or Martin is left out on each question.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:14 PM

24. yep

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:11 PM

8. How do we distinguish between these candidates?

 

All I hear Bernie saying is that he agrees with the other two candidates. So, if I'm a voter totally unfamiliar with these three, why should I vote for Bernie? He's not exactly contrasting his position.

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Response to LittleBlue (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:12 PM

12. I think it's because...

...aside from guns, the other candidates have largely adopted his stances.

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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:16 PM

27. No. It's because they're all somewhat in agreement and always have been.

SOMEWHAT, I said. I know the difference between them but all have always been in agreement re immigration, pay equity, gun control, coalition forming, etc. Not the same but far from the carpet bombing, Putin loving, Muslim hating, ISIS feeding, women's rights removing, gun humping, KILL KILL KILL GOP.

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Response to LittleBlue (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:13 PM

18. You should vote for the candidate with executive experience

in implementing plans and programs, and that candidate is Martin O'Malley.

15 Goals to Rebuild the American Dream
https://martinomalley.com/category/15-goals/

Addiction treatment and prevention
https://martinomalley.com/policy/addiction-treatment-and-prevention/

Criminal Justice Reform
https://martinomalley.com/policy/criminal-justice/

Making College Debt Free for all Americans
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Holding Wall Street Accountable
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Expanding Social Security
https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/expanding-social-security/

Homeland Security
https://martinomalley.com/vision/homeland-security/

Immigration
https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/immigration/

National Service
https://martinomalley.com/national-service/

Environment
https://martinomalley.com/climate/iowa/
https://martinomalley.com/climate/
https://martinomalley.com/climate/agenda/

Foreign Policy
https://martinomalley.com/policy/truman-national-security/

Gun Reform
https://martinomalley.com/policy/preventing-and-reducing-gun-violence/

Trade Policy
https://martinomalley.com/policy/trade-policy/

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https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/restoring-our-american-democracy/

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Tax Reform
(Coming Soon)

Veterans and Military Families
https://martinomalley.com/policy/veterans/

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Response to elleng (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:54 PM

139. Bernie also has executive experience as mayor of Burlington Vt.

There are videos oof Bernie as mayor. He was really great and re-elected over and ove and over.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:11 PM

9. moderaters trying to keep bernie from talking

now that datagate is over.and mor eintrested in fear mongoring than real issues that affect everyday americans.

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Response to Robbins (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:13 PM

20. Then he will have to try to take some control from them in a positive way. Not easy, but doable

This is the DU member formerly known as still_one.

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Response to Robbins (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:27 PM

61. He's doing plenty of talking--and yelling. Probably should use a stopwatch to see how much time...

...he actually is using.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:12 PM

13. Why not let each candidate answer each question?

I'm not liking this format so far. They ask a similar question to two candidates, then won't let the third speak their position on the question.

When it's all said and done will Clinton be the one with the most time, and O'Malley the least?

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Response to MH1 (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:18 PM

32. Agreed - You Beat Me To That Point....

It's hardly a debate as it is and then you don't get a chance to hear each candidates position on each issue.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:13 PM

16. Sanders calls for a secterian war in the middle east.

"This is a war for the soul of Islam" and they should fight it.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:14 PM

23. Bernie calling out S.A. and Qatar. Wish he'd go even further and tell them

to stop funding Daesh.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #23)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:17 PM

29. They all have to be somewhat careful. Unlike the republicans, ya can't say we are going to bomb

everyone
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Response to still_one (Reply #29)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:26 PM

54. I just think it is a damn shame that

 

terrorism dominates the discussion. I would really like to hear them all talk about domestic issues.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #23)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:19 PM

36. I loved the quote, which is here...

Qatar: Instead of spending $200 billion on the world cup, maybe they should
pay attention to isis, which is at their doorstep.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:16 PM

26. Now we get to some meat.

And let's be respectful here. Let's not bring in other topics than are discussed.

This is an awesome debate so far, no matter who one supports.

And Martha Raditz is awesome.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:17 PM

28. They asked Hillary a good question about what happens if ground troops are needed.

Will she want to send them.

Hillary says that she believes in the current plan.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:17 PM

30. Even w/ the crap job the ABC moderators are doing

The CBS debate was much more organized, if you ask me

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Response to PghTiny (Reply #30)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:19 PM

34. i think all the candidates are not getting

good treatment from the mods,.disorganized and stupid provoking questions imo

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:18 PM

31. Hillary taking the other candidates to school

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:18 PM

33. O'Malley: "Make president of USAID a cabinet member."

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:19 PM

35. I know I am biased, but anyone else think Hillary is winning the debate on foreign policy so far? nt

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Response to ProudToBeLiberal (Reply #35)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:21 PM

40. She lost that debate when she voted YES on the IWR.

And...she is not doing well this evening in that the hawk is just beating it wings to fly our of her mouth...and she looks like she is fighting it.

JMHO

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Response to ProudToBeLiberal (Reply #35)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:21 PM

44. They were largely agreeing, but it seems like shes getting more time than the other two.

She lost the foreign policy debate as soon as she mentioned the no fly zone though.

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Response to bobbobbins01 (Reply #44)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:24 PM

50. That was the topper...not good. I agree.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:19 PM

37. This is an adult debate

All three candidates are well-spoken, and they're showing they're all quite capable and intelligent.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:20 PM

38. Is this a debate

Or an HRC interview? This is horrible.

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Response to xloadiex (Reply #38)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:21 PM

43. Right, glad you noticed.

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Response to xloadiex (Reply #38)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:21 PM

45. You must be watching a different debate.

 

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:20 PM

39. These Isis strategies don't make any sense.

 

Bernie: We need to bring in Arab armies. Including Saudi Arabia

Bernie, those Arab armies were utterly routed by Isis. Saudi Arabia won't fight Isis because they're funding Isis.

Hillary: We need the Turks to focus less on the Kurds and more on Isis

Hillary, the Turkish president's own brother has been pictured dining with Isis leaders. He's buying their oil.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:21 PM

41. Hillary asked if we should shoot down Syrian and Russian planes in no fly zone.

"It shouldn't come to that." Deconflicting...

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:21 PM

42. Oh boy! No fly zone! Shared by Russia. nt

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Response to longship (Reply #42)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:26 PM

55. Trump will personally monitor compliance

 

and report any sightings of Muslims in the area.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:22 PM

46. Hillary's no-fly zone answer was not very good...

IMO

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #46)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:23 PM

48. No ones is including the republicans

Because it doesn't really make sense

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #46)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:00 PM

142. What foreign powers are flying in Syris other than the US and Russia

Iraq. That is the US. A no-fly zone would stop what planes? Turkey? France

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:22 PM

47. Sanders answer about "broad coalitions" is no better than anyone else.

I don't mean to make is sound competitive. Just no good answers.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #47)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:25 PM

51. Hillary has a good answer about motivation of non-ISIS fighters

Basically the only way to keep the non-ISIS motivated is for them to have a shot at replacing Assad.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:24 PM

49. I hate this debate

it makes CNN debate look good.

It's all about clinton.

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Response to Robbins (Reply #49)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:26 PM

53. And we already know who "won" the debate before it even started

as per tomorrow's media.

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Response to Robbins (Reply #49)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:26 PM

57. Someone pointed out that Hillary gets to answer every question, but the other two don't.

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Response to Robbins (Reply #49)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:28 PM

69. Well Bernie keeps agreeing with Hillary.

"The Secretary is right." This is not the fault of the debate. Of course I agree with him.

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Response to Robbins (Reply #49)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:29 PM

77. No, it's about foreign policy. She's the best qualified at that.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #77)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:55 PM

140. Yes, more people have died under policies she agreed with.

 

In some circles, that is considered very successful in war.



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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:25 PM

52. Democratic answers are so much more thoughtful than the republicans

No "nuke" the middle east nonsense. No effort to out tough each other.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:26 PM

56. MOM pulled the youth card! "May I respond from a different generation?" nt

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:26 PM

58. Wow ageism from O'Malley

Didn't expect that from a Democrat

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Response to shawn703 (Reply #58)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:27 PM

66. Pissed off a few in the crowd.

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Response to shawn703 (Reply #58)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:34 PM

102. Pointing out the difference between history and the contemporary situation is not ageism.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:26 PM

59. Honestly, mics should be turned off if it isn't one's turn or if they go over time.

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #59)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:29 PM

73. They are doing pretty good on that. nt

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:26 PM

60. Bernie, just admit you don't know WTF you're talking about

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Response to firebrand80 (Reply #60)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:28 PM

67. Spoken Like A True Third Way Member

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #67)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:28 PM

71. *high five*

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Response to firebrand80 (Reply #71)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:29 PM

78. That Post Was Not An Affirmation - This Citizen Would Be Ashamed To Affiliate With The Third Way

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #78)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:31 PM

89. *high five*

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Response to firebrand80 (Reply #89)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:34 PM

100. A Firm No From This Citizen

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:27 PM

62. O'Malley just got groans for an old person joke

"Can we get a person of a different generation perspective?"

Groans

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #62)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:29 PM

72. Yeah that was bad.

But he's probably right.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #62)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:30 PM

82. Well deserved if you ask me n/t

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #82)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:31 PM

91. I agree

It was clumsy

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:27 PM

63. Too bad this is on Saturday before Christmas. nt

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:27 PM

64. Talk about disrespectful moderators!

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:27 PM

65. O'Malley is dead right

 

Nailed it. I'm more impressed with him than Bernie.

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Response to LittleBlue (Reply #65)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:29 PM

75. Good!

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:28 PM

68. O'Malley... oh my!

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:28 PM

70. clinton just claimed credit for the UN resolution on Syria

Claiming it was negotiated in Geneva by her. There was a Geneva agreement, but the UN resolution came out of the Vienna negotiations and their follow up meetings.

After Geneva, things fell apart. There was even a Geneva that was also a failure. Other than all these negotiations being on Syria it is silly for Clinton to take credit for time consuming negotiations done three years after she was over.

The US Secretary of State that led on this was JOHN KERRY, THE BEST SECRETARY OF STATE OBAMA HAD.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #70)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:30 PM

84. Yes, she was under fire during this discussion.

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Response to Hepburn (Reply #84)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:37 PM

116. lol

She looked over 6 foot tall leading them as well.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #70)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:31 PM

86. I am not watching the debates, but if that is the case, Bernie and or Martin should call that out

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Response to still_one (Reply #86)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:35 PM

106. the format works against that

Each person is asked a different question on the topic and each has there own agenda. Not to mention, this is something better disputed by the fact checkers.

I do not get why she does this. She is very good on detailed answers, clearly knows a huge amount, but I have NEVER heard her credit Kerry as having a lead role on anything as SoS.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:29 PM

74. Clinton: "If the US doesn't lead, there is not another leader. There is a vacuum."

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #74)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:30 PM

79. Sanders: "US is not the policeman of the world."

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #79)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:32 PM

93. Renew Deal, you warm my black heart. ;-) nt


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Response to longship (Reply #93)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:32 PM

96. lol. Thanks

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:29 PM

76. O'Malley Is Starting To Get On My Nerves....

Is he trying to hard or what? I know he is way down in the polls and needs to get noticed. But he's picking too many fights.

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Response to global1 (Reply #76)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:31 PM

87. He's addressing foreign policy issues.

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Response to global1 (Reply #76)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:32 PM

94. Give him a break

Really, what's he gonna do?

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Response to global1 (Reply #76)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:35 PM

107. I've no problem with him trying to contrast himself to the other candidates

 

I'm wondering why Bernie isn't. He looks like the only one on the stage who isn't afraid to hold the other candidates to account for their past decisions. Hell I probably don't even agree with his opinion on guns but I can respect his boldness.

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Response to global1 (Reply #76)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:39 PM

121. He is always very forced

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:30 PM

81. U.S. is NOT the policemen of the world. Neocons hate

That kind of talk. nt

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #81)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:33 PM

97. I agree, the U.S. should NOT be policemen of the world

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Response to still_one (Reply #97)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:38 PM

120. I agree too

But if we expect sunni Saudi Arabia to send their huge army to fight against sunni ISIS, we're dreaming. I just don't see that happening.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #120)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:41 PM

127. There are no simple solutions, but it is in Iran's interest sure not to let ISIS expand too much.

The best thing we can do is become energy independent, but that isn't going to be quick either
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Response to still_one (Reply #127)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:54 PM

138. I agree about energy

I would love nothing more than to quit doing business with Saudi Arabia and others stuck in the Iron Age.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #138)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:55 PM

141. because that is the real solution

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:30 PM

83. Yay, we are moving to the economy finally. nt

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Response to ProudToBeLiberal (Reply #83)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:37 PM

115. du[;ocate

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:30 PM

85. Fundamental dispute about Syria between Hillary and Bernie...

Hillary: We must take on Assad and ISIS
Bernie: Just take on ISIS and have someone else fight the fight.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #85)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:34 PM

103. I don't think there is any easy answer on this one

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #85)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:35 PM

108. I am not sure I can agree with the hawkish aproch the HRC is presenting

And I wish Bernie would stop yelling

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:31 PM

88. It's a more serious debate than the GOP one

 

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Response to NYCButterfinger (Reply #88)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:34 PM

104. It is a great debate... On the Saturday night before Christmas!!!

How many will be watching "Rudolph, the Red-Nosed Reindeer" instead?

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Response to longship (Reply #104)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:45 PM

134. Probably more watching the rain deer show

 

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:31 PM

90. HRC blames Assad for ISIL. Not Bush's invasion of Iraq.

How 'bout that.

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Response to MH1 (Reply #90)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:32 PM

95. For territorial gains...

That goes to the Syrian civil war.

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Response to MH1 (Reply #90)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:33 PM

98. I am still shaking my head on that one.

Where the hell did that come from???

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Response to Hepburn (Reply #98)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:36 PM

112. She is defending Obama's "Assad must go" during her SoS tenure.

But O'Malley is dead right on that one.

I winced when Obama said that and haven't stopped wincing about it since. Very close to the worst foreign policy error of his administration, if not THE worst, in my opinion.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:31 PM

92. Hillary, Isis wasn't created by Assad

 

That was done when you voted for Chimpy's war of lies.

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Response to LittleBlue (Reply #92)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:36 PM

109. well,then the other candidates should call her on that. That is what is supposed to happen during

debates
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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:33 PM

99. She gets every question....

This is bullshit.

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #99)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:34 PM

101. yup. but i did not expect anything different. nt

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #99)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:36 PM

110. Yeah, but she gets most of the answers wrong...

...let her keep screwing up.

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Response to Hepburn (Reply #110)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:37 PM

118. I am not watching the debate, but regardless, lets say your assessment is right on. Are the other

candidates pointing that out, and if not then they should be, or they are not doing what they need to do in a debate
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Response to still_one (Reply #118)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:40 PM

122. Sanders complained once about not being able to answer one.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #122)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:42 PM

129. Then he has to interject, even if it is very brief. Those are opportunities

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Response to still_one (Reply #118)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:41 PM

126. Why take their time to point out her obvious mistakes.

Better to give the correct positions and facts and let her sit there with egg on her face.

This is not a debate...it is an interview by some of the worse mods I have witnessed.

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Response to Hepburn (Reply #126)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:45 PM

135. Strategically if there is a glaring misstatement, and that isn't pointed out, it is a lost

opportunity. Of course that is just my opinion. It doesn't have to be a long, just a quick statement of fact, and then proceed onto your positions.
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Response to still_one (Reply #118)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:16 AM

147. They try....they get reminded of the rules every time.

I guess one of the rules is she gets to answer every question.

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #99)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:37 PM

117. OFFS.

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #99)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:40 PM

124. I'd be curious if there is a time amount list of how much each person got to speak.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:35 PM

105. Even the commercial breaks are like NFL breaks.

Commercial.
30 seconds of comments recapping the last 2 posessions by 5 talking heads for anybody who can not understand English.
Commercial..

talking heads back..
game continues 1st and 10...


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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:36 PM

111. They are going to start the debate without Hillary there.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:37 PM

113. LOL! It takes girls longer...

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Response to nolabear (Reply #113)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:40 PM

123. Sexist. But yeah, she set out to make an entrance

and instead rightfully earned toilet references.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #123)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:42 PM

128. No, really! It does! I am one! And that's just silly about making an entrance.

You don't want to be late to your podium.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:37 PM

114. As usual I agree with Bernie

Hillary says no ground troops. So are we to rely on special forces to take out Assad? And what about the destabilization not only in Syria, but around the world? We must think of Russia.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:38 PM

119. Sanders: Tax on Wall St. speculation to make public college free

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:40 PM

125. Starting a new thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251925394

Please go there for more discussion.

Thank you.

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:42 PM

130. Yes - terrorism is bad bla bla bla

 

Reality - our own police have killed more of us in the last twenty
Terrorism is a problem we will deal with

Sanders is correct - Jobs - healthcare - banking - ENVIRONMENT
These are the issues that will have more direct impact on us


WAR WAR WAR - it is not the answer - It is not even the most important question

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:43 PM

131. Hillary is doing extremely well

 

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:43 PM

132. Hillary is kicking ass!

Loved the MARKET BASKET comments--that's good audience connection!

Everybody loves Hillary!!!!

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:45 PM

133. Sanders: Corporate America will not like me and Wall St. will like me even less

Not sure if that answer is going to play well. Most workers work for corporate America on some level.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #133)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:49 PM

136. That is true, but it is a popular sound bite that does resonate with many workers

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:03 PM

143. Bernie is very clear

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:09 PM

144. Hillary bulldozes her way through time that is not hers! She defies the moderator too and...

 

... ignores their attempts to keep control of the debate!

Damn!

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Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:51 PM

146. All they are talking about is Hillary as if the other two

do not exist

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