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marmar

(77,073 posts)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:09 AM Dec 2015

I just find it amazing that supporters of a candidate whose campaign in 2008.....


......resorted to racist dog whistling and every other lowbrow tactic in the book......

Published on
Wednesday, April 30, 2008
by CommonDreams.org


The Clinton Smear Campaign Against Obama
by Stephen Zunes


Unable to find much that Barack Obama himself has said or believes that is particularly alien to the thinking and values of most Americans, Hillary Clinton and her supporters in the media have chosen instead to engage in a campaign of guilt-by-association.

Not surprisingly, right-wing media pundits and prominent Republicans have thrown their weight behind Clinton's efforts, taken advantage of the New York senator's attacks to smear the likely Democratic presidential nominee. For example, North Carolina Republicans are readying a television ad on the eve of that state's primary which includes a photo of Obama and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright together, a video clip of Wright making incendiary comments, with a voiceover telling voters that Obama is "just too extreme for North Carolina."

Clinton's guilt-by-association campaign has even moved to additional degrees of separation. For example, before tens of millions of viewers of the April 16 debate in Philadelphia, Clinton again brought up Obama's alleged "relationships with Louis Farrakhan," despite Obama's repeated and unequivocal denunciations of anti-Semitic statements and other controversial actions by the Black Muslim leader. The apparent extent of Obama's alleged "relationship" with the Nation of Islam leader which prompted Clinton's charge was that a magazine for which Obama's pastor's daughter serves as publisher granted an award to Farrakhan in honor of a successful program he had set up to rehabilitate ex-convicts.

During that same debate, Clinton went so far as to link Obama with the radical Palestinian Islamist group Hamas because the "pastor's pages" section of the weekly bulletin of the church Obama attended once included -- as part of a series of opinion pieces reprinted from various newspapers around the country -- an op-ed column from the Los Angeles Times written by a Hamas leader. Though Obama had already categorically condemned the decision to reprint that article, Clinton told the tens of millions of viewers that "we have a choice who we associate with and who we apparently give some kind of seal of approval to," such as the pastor who -- in Clinton's typically hyperbolic version of events designed to discredit her rival -- was guilty of "giving the church bulletin over to the leader of Hamas."

Hillary Clinton has even attacked Obama for having served on the board of the Chicago anti-poverty group known as the Woods Fund at the same time as former Weather Underground member Bill Ayers. Ayers, who was never convicted of any crime, is now a distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois-Chicago and served as a former aide to Mayor Richard M. Daley. Clinton apparently saw it as irrelevant that, at the time of Ayers' involvement in the Weather Underground, Obama was just eight years old and living nearly ten thousand miles away in Indonesia. ..................(more)

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2008/04/30/clinton-smear-campaign-against-obama




........... are running around carping about ethics.



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I just find it amazing that supporters of a candidate whose campaign in 2008..... (Original Post) marmar Dec 2015 OP
Let us not forget some of the Clinton campaign's literature... l.o.o.s.e.e-2 Dec 2015 #1
Where's the equivalent against Bernie? treestar Dec 2015 #20
That old smear again? Ino Dec 2015 #2
The 'Big Lie' is a well known political ploy. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #3
Exactly NowSam Dec 2015 #12
Obama chose her to be SoS. End of story. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #4
Sorry, but it's on the record forever. marmar Dec 2015 #9
Yeah ok. They still meet for lunch nowadays. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #11
Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog? backscatter712 Dec 2015 #23
Not surprising at all. tazkcmo Dec 2015 #5
Ever wonder why Sanders cant connect with the vast majority of minorities? nt LexVegas Dec 2015 #6
So racist dogwhistling is the way to connect? marmar Dec 2015 #7
Psst...it paternalistic "concern". We see right through that shit. nt LexVegas Dec 2015 #8
Run from it any way you want to. marmar Dec 2015 #10
I wish they would change socks more frequently FlatBaroque Dec 2015 #21
Looks like blaming DWS for the Sanders campaign's acts of thievery isn't working. I guess plan B DanTex Dec 2015 #13
^ Exhibit A marmar Dec 2015 #14
It is rather stunning to watch. n/t demmiblue Dec 2015 #15
.. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #16
Kick (nt) bigwillq Dec 2015 #17
It's Rovian. It's what Bush did to Kerry somehow. And it worked for Bush. It's also hideous. nt stillwaiting Dec 2015 #18
It's stranger that supporters of the Bernie campaign treestar Dec 2015 #19
I haven't forgotten at all Robbins Dec 2015 #22
 

l.o.o.s.e.e-2

(53 posts)
1. Let us not forget some of the Clinton campaign's literature...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:17 AM
Dec 2015
Meanwhile, the Clinton campaign is preparing new mailers to be sent in the coming weeks, making the following examples from 2008 pale in comparison:


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treestar

(82,383 posts)
20. Where's the equivalent against Bernie?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:02 PM
Dec 2015

Interesting that Hillary's campaign isn't doing the same sort of thing when it comes to Bernie. Maybe it's because of the poll numbers. Oh but Obama still overcame Hillary with similar poll numbers. So odd that Bernie is not getting this treatment.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
2. That old smear again?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:19 AM
Dec 2015

That's a RW website! You're a RWinger! I don't believe in conspiracy theories! You're just giving the Republicans ammunition! She's evolved since then! 9/11!!!!

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. The 'Big Lie' is a well known political ploy.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:20 AM
Dec 2015

People are more willing to believe the lie if it's so big, so absurd, that they feel no one could actually lie that big - if it's so incredibly implausible, then there must be some truth behind it, because surely no one would say something that on its face sounds so idiotic without there being something to it.

So they want to project Hillary's greatest weakness overtop of Bernie's greatest strength.

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
12. Exactly
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:38 AM
Dec 2015

This old ploy won't work this time. Everyone knows HRC and she is overwhelmingly perceived as untrustworthy. Bernie has a consistent career of integrity and locked in his huge fan base last August. Bernie won the social media war 6 months ago.

Any one who doesn't see that Dws and HRC are in cahoots and conspiring to take down Bernie are either in sad denial, in on it, or willing to sell the soul of their convictions and values to win this. they have bought into the race as a big football game instead of facing the realities and tough choices which have to be faced if we are to survive and prosper as a society. Only Bernie and Warren are willing to tackle the big issues of the day head on.

marmar

(77,073 posts)
9. Sorry, but it's on the record forever.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:27 AM
Dec 2015

And it was a politically expedient and sensible move. Ever heard of frenemies?


backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
23. Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:06 PM
Dec 2015

I wonder if they still greet each other with "Morning, Sam!" "Morning, Ralph!"

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
5. Not surprising at all.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:21 AM
Dec 2015

From billing records to sniper fire to emails to to this. Ugh. What a sleazy family. No wonder George II loves them like brother and sister.

marmar

(77,073 posts)
7. So racist dogwhistling is the way to connect?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:25 AM
Dec 2015

As a member of one of those said "minorities", that wouldn't work on me. Just sayin'


DanTex

(20,709 posts)
13. Looks like blaming DWS for the Sanders campaign's acts of thievery isn't working. I guess plan B
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:40 AM
Dec 2015

is to recycle some old anti-Hillary smears as a distraction.

Good luck with that.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. It's stranger that supporters of the Bernie campaign
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:00 PM
Dec 2015

going on about honesty and integrity for the past couple of months, abandon that when it suits them as necessary to defend Bernie.

4 of Bernie's people messed up. Yet we see that in the long run, all the talk doesn't matter.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
22. I haven't forgotten at all
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:06 PM
Dec 2015

while some clinton supporters want to dismiss all bernie supporters as Kucinich supporters from 2004/2008.that;s not true.I supported Dead in 2004 and obama in 2008.I voted for gore not nader In 2000.

I remember full well tatics of clintons in 2008.I don't trust her because i can remember history of clintons not just what she says in 2015.

It doesn't matter how you feel about obama now after tpp and middle east devolpments.the clintons were playing racist smear with
him as well as other dirty tricks.Bill Clinton dismissed the SC primary win by obama because Jesse Jackson won In SC during 1984 and 1988.

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