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Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:23 AM

Don't you just love the "Give 'em enough rope" strategy?

It's truly magical. Sit back and let your opponent do all the work for you. DWS got Bernie more publicity than he's seen the entire campaign, disgusted Hillary supporters are jumping ship to the Sanders camp, and Hillary's reputation for dishonesty just grew exponentially.

Personally, I think we should keep DWS. She's worked wonders for the Sanders campaign.

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Reply Don't you just love the "Give 'em enough rope" strategy? (Original post)
Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 OP
Fumesucker Dec 2015 #1
Hepburn Dec 2015 #2
bvf Dec 2015 #3
Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #4
merrily Dec 2015 #35
grasswire Dec 2015 #5
merrily Dec 2015 #6
Dragonfli Dec 2015 #8
merrily Dec 2015 #9
Dragonfli Dec 2015 #10
merrily Dec 2015 #12
Dragonfli Dec 2015 #22
merrily Dec 2015 #29
OnyxCollie Dec 2015 #7
merrily Dec 2015 #19
winter is coming Dec 2015 #27
merrily Dec 2015 #31
NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #11
merrily Dec 2015 #14
NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #15
merrily Dec 2015 #17
NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #21
merrily Dec 2015 #23
Scuba Dec 2015 #37
hootinholler Dec 2015 #38
Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #13
merrily Dec 2015 #16
Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #18
merrily Dec 2015 #20
Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #24
merrily Dec 2015 #25
RandySF Dec 2015 #26
ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #32
merrily Dec 2015 #34
Kalidurga Dec 2015 #28
Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #39
Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #30
Lil Missy Dec 2015 #33
azurnoir Dec 2015 #36

Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:26 AM

1. When someone tells you who they are you should believe them n/t

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:28 AM

2. Sweet couple of days! n/t

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:31 AM

3. It's been a good week.

 

Probably a game-changer.

Although your point is taken about DWS, can't agree with you there. DWS being handed her walking papers would be another HUGE feather in Sanders's cap.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:31 AM

4. The DNC was buried by it's own bullshit.

 

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 06:01 AM

35. We can at least hope it was the DNC's OWN bullsh*t and not something worse.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:35 AM

5. yes, I'll bet a lot of political strategists...

...are filing this episode away for the lesson books. The Bernie campaign showed amazing grit and growl today.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:55 AM

6. I understand and admire your thinking about keeping DWS as a strategy.

However, I perversely would rather have a Party that is on the up and up than win.

If DU has taught me anything this primary season, it's that putting winning above honesty, decency, and other values and principles is very ugly in my estimation.

As corny (and self-defeating) as it may sound, I would rather be true to myself. I know I have survived my candidate's losing a primary or an election because I have experiences that before and survived. I have never lost myself and therefore don't know if I can survive that. I'm too risk averse to take that huge a chance.

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Response to merrily (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:06 AM

8. Wise words, could not have said it better myself /nt

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:09 AM

9. Thanks, Dragonfli. Coming from someone like you, that is high praise indeed.

I've been admiring your posts whenever I come across them.

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Response to merrily (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:12 AM

10. I believe we think alike in many ways

I'm one of your biggest fans, I suppose after my initial statement that comes off as a bit narcissistic

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:18 AM

12. Oh, my goodness. My first self-described "fan!" I could not have asked for a better one.



Where's the after party?

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Response to merrily (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:38 AM

22. I'm hoping the after party will be right here during a Sanders inaguration

With vitual drinks all around!! (likely a few real ones as well)

Oh! and dancing, I have heard that no revolution is worth having if there is to be no dancing involved!

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:49 AM

29. I just realized: We have no universal US folk dance(s)!

First Nations have theirs, individual immigrant/ethnic groups have theirs, and we have fad dances. However, we have no US folk dances that we all have in common as a people.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:58 AM

7. “If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by.” -Sun Tzu. nt

 

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:31 AM

19. Thanks! Perfect! I need to memorize Sun Tzu's comments.

I love how [strike]pissy[/strike] pithy they are.

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:58 AM

27. Or you'll drop dead, fall in, and make someone else's day.

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Response to winter is coming (Reply #27)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:50 AM

31. And I thought Sun Tzu was cold!

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:16 AM

11. "disgusted Hillary supporters are jumping ship to the Sanders camp."

Do you have the stats on that? Can you provide a link that shows the numbers of how many HRC supporters have jumped ship to the Sanders's campaign?

I wouldn't want to think you were just makin' shit up without having the evidence to support it.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:20 AM

14. Oooooo. Nance vs. Le Taz

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Response to merrily (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:23 AM

15. No battle royale here.

I'm just asking Le Taz to provide the proof of her statements.

I'm sure she has those facts at-the-ready - or she wouldn't have made those statements in the first place.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:27 AM

17. Yes, I saw your posts with your standard games. You need not explain them to me.

They're transparent and not deep enough to require explication, but I do appreciate your willingness to educate me. Thanks!

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Response to merrily (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:35 AM

21. I didn't think it was a "game" ...

... to ask a poster for links to back-up a statement they've made as being factual.

If Le Taz doesn't have any facts to prove her assertion, she is perfectly capable of saying so.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #21)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:39 AM

23. LOL! I do agree as to the bit about Taz's capabilities, though. Hence, my popcorn post. nt

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:07 AM

37. It's really not many Hillary supporters that are jumping ship, Nance.

 

Just the eithical ones.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #37)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:55 AM

38. Snaps for Scuba!



Couldn't be that many!


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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:19 AM

13. We've got to see what the debates bring tomorrow.

If a bear shits in the woods and no one is around to see it, did it really happen?

The DNC is all in on Clinton - I hope that simple fact comes across tomorrow.

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Response to Juicy_Bellows (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:25 AM

16. That "simple fact" is much like your classical philosophical question about a bear

relieving itself in the woods without media coverage. MSM was sure all over the "Bernie campaign did something bad with Hillary's data" myth. The stories and press conferences were proliferating so quickly yesterday, I could not have kept up with them, even if I had devoted my entire day to the effort.

Has msm ever reported the DNC's blatant actions vis a vis HRC with that degree of fanfare, speed and coverage?

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Response to merrily (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:30 AM

18. With such fervor? I don't think so.

All the more why tomorrow may be interesting.



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Response to Juicy_Bellows (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:34 AM

20. Every debate in which Sanders and/or O'Malley participate is interesting.

However, Mr. and Ms. America may not get as close a look at some turd piles as they do at others, real or trumped up. (No Trump turd pun intended, but feel free to create your own.)

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Response to merrily (Reply #20)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:43 AM

24. Here's to thoroughly examined turds!

Spelunkers for kernels of truth!

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Response to Juicy_Bellows (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:46 AM

25. Not the most appetizing toast I've ever heard, but I'll drink to that anyway!

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:57 AM

26. The Sanders camapign acts just like the Republicans

Get caught red headed and bluster their way out. I guess Sanders does have a lot in common with Trump.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #26)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:51 AM

32. It's succeeded too... at least in the DU

Whenever they're caught, just double down. Try to pretend its someone else's fault. "They made me steal, by leaving the door unlocked! Made me, I tell you!! And I'm terribly offended. It's all a big conspiracy!!!1!!1!"

This place has really become unhinged teabagger-of-the-left central.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

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Response to RandySF (Reply #26)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:59 AM

34. Got red handed doing what? Trying to make sure Bernie's data was not compromised by the negligence

(or worse) of the DNC's vendor, whom the Sanders campaign had warned of the breach months earlier?

Sorry, the ones acting like Republicans in this are not Bernie's supporters.

ETA: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251910870

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:29 AM

28. Nope DWS is next on the chopping block.

The DNC is going to have their hands full for at least a couple of days trying to keep up with the phone calls 877-336-7200 the DNC contribution line, to have DWS fired.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:59 AM

39. Your're probably right.

She fucked this up so monumentally the Big Boys are going to HAVE to get rid of her, otherwise, this stays with the party and will be used in the GE. IF they change Chairs and IF Bernie wins the nomination, the DNC MAY have a chance of surviving. Barring that, she and the DNC are done.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:50 AM

30. No: for the good of the party she needs to go.

 

The party is bigger than Sanders, you see?

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:55 AM

33. You just made all of that up.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 06:23 AM

36. she initiated the sh*t storm we all knew was coming

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