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Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:55 AM

Now that THAT'S over and done with...

1) It was the Sanders' campaign staffers that breached and, at the very least, observed info in the voter database that they weren't supposed to see. That's on Sanders and his campaign 100%...to blame Hillary for the breach is straight up bullshit.

2) The vendor should have posted something that they were "under maintenance" or something while these barriers were let down to upload info.

3) Schultz is a tool and the sooner that she is let go, the better. She handled this (and many other things) extremely poorly.

4) The ratings for tomorrow's debate will go through the roof. If I were a cynic, I would even say....you can complete that sentence.

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Reply Now that THAT'S over and done with... (Original post)
Chitown Kev Dec 2015 OP
Dem2 Dec 2015 #1
peacebird Dec 2015 #2
Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #4
grasswire Dec 2015 #13
Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #14
OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #10
Renew Deal Dec 2015 #3
Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #6
daybranch Dec 2015 #5
Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #11
JI7 Dec 2015 #7
joshcryer Dec 2015 #8
Logical Dec 2015 #9
lovemydog Dec 2015 #12

Response to Chitown Kev (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:58 AM

1. Agreed.

I refrained from participating in the DWS pile-on, but I really don't like her and would be happy to see her go, sooner than later.

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Response to Chitown Kev (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:59 AM

2. Add to which Hillary did not show the class that Bernie did in the last debate with his gift of

Being 'tired of hearing about your damn emails'

Instead her campaign doubled down with claims of millions of dollars of data stolen....



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Response to peacebird (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:02 AM

4. Ther is no real equivlence about Hillary's

"damn e-mails" and access to sensitive and confidential voter data by her political opponent.

If Hillary wants to chalk it up to being a mere kerfuffle tomorrow night, that would be a good thing.

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:22 AM

13. yea, one is under FBI investigation..

...and she would best let it all go. She will have some sort of glib quip. But she has been warned by the massive uprising of Bernistas.

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Response to grasswire (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:29 AM

14. My thing is

Hillary Clinton had absolutely NOTHING to gain by any of this.

She's leading in the polls, she's leading in money, she's leading in Iowa, she more than holds her own in debates once the primaries are over with, she will get Sanders' endorsement, so I don't see anything that Hillary would have to gain by this heavy-handed action by the DNC...that's where I disagree with the "Bernistas."

DWS wasn't doing Hillary Clinton any favors, she's harming more than she's helping. DWS needs to be fired over this stunt.

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Response to peacebird (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:10 AM

10. Class?

Her only involvement in this was to suggest that Sanders be given access to his data.

Would it have helped if she'd added a "fuck the oligarchs"?

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Response to Chitown Kev (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:01 AM

3. On point 2...

What I read was that code was uploaded to the system and that exposed the data. They didn't turn off barriers.

On 4, I disagree.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:05 AM

6. If uploading the code exposes the data

close the system down for maintenance while that is being done. It was only a 40 minute window.

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Response to Chitown Kev (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:04 AM

5. Hilary's people did it before in previous campaigns

and the actions taken by the DNC were minor in comparison to what was done by DWS this time. If it comes up it will look like Hillary (the pot) calling Bernie ( the skillet) dirtier, and when it is over Hillary and DWS will be the losers due to the heavy handed and uneven punishment they tried to inflict on the Bernie campaign for actions similar to what Hillary campaign did in the past.

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Response to daybranch (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:13 AM

11. Hillary may have been the one

that shut DWS down over this...after all, she is winning in the polls and Sanders will endorse HRC if HRC wins the nomination, so Clinton really had nothing to gain by DWS' heavy-handedness.

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Response to Chitown Kev (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:07 AM

7. not sure about the ratings, i don't think this was really a big issue outside of those

who are likely to watch it anyways.

i don't think a weekday would have made much difference either. there would of course be higher ratings but i think a lot of people tune in for things like Donald Trump instead of actually caring about issues.

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Response to Chitown Kev (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:08 AM

8. DWS took it personal. It's a good thing other adults shut it down.

She's going to be gone after this election is over with.

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Response to Chitown Kev (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:09 AM

9. Lol, ok, no bias on your part! Nt

 

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Response to Chitown Kev (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:19 AM

12. Everything you're saying sounds reasonable to me.

It's nice reading reasonable posts.

I think a court would have granted immediate relief to the Sanders campaign. I know it's mere speculation on my part. But withholding records that the Sanders campaign needs to keep it's campaign going just was so heavy-handed on the part of the DNC.

I would think most courts would lean in favor of issuing an immediate order to allow the Sanders campaign to have unfettered access to such information, in the interests of fair play and the strong public interest of open and free elections.

I'll be watching the debate tomorrow night. I'm a bit of a nerd who actually enjoys watching all the debates.

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