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Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:22 PM

For those of you who are willing to vote against your selfish self interests, I feel sorry for you

For those dumb enough to vote against your selfish self interest, I feel sorry for you.

I really do. I feel sorry for you because you are willing to put passion, and in this case misplaced anger, ahead of common sense. I feel sorry for anyone who is that irrational.

Four Sanders staffers knowingly copied data which they knew they should have never accessed, whether the firewall is down or not, and then stowed that data for future use. And don't tell me it it wasn't wrong - had Republicans done the same thing we would all crying foul as loud as possible. Bernie doesn't need that kind of help from his staff I can assure you. He is too good a man - and he doesn't need this kind of scandal.

Then Bernie's staff gets into a public fight with the DNC - none of us need that kind of publicity. The Republicans are laughing and eating popcorn for heavens sakes. And then what do Sander's supporter do? They blame the whole thing on Hillary Clinton. You have to wonder how rational some folks are.

But here is the bottom line folks - if you can't calm down sooner or later and support the eventual Democratic nominee - whoever that may be - just go, and go now! And don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out! You are a much smaller percentage of the electorate than you believe. Maybe you can post of the Green Party Underground, because you won't be welcome here.

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ThePhilosopher04 Dec 2015 #8
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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:24 PM

1. enjoy your stay.

 

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Response to PowerToThePeople (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:30 PM

6. We are not talking about me - I will vote for the Democratic nominee!

I am just sick and tired of all of the threats that some people are making. Like I wrote, if they want to vote for someone other than the Democratic nominee, or they won't vote at all, they need to quit threatening and just go away. They are not needed here.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:43 PM

8. This is America buddy ...

 

we have a right to vote for whomever we want, and not vote for those we cannot support. There's not a dimes worth of difference between Clinton and Republicans as far as I'm concerned. She's had ample opportunity to earn my vote but continues to fail at every turn.

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Response to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:02 AM

17. This is the DU buddy....

The DEMOCRATIC Underground, and technically the terms of use forbid what I am protesting.
You, BUDDY can vote for for whoever the flip you want to vote for and I don't give a dang who that is. Just don't try to threaten me with your vote.

You have a perception problem, but I can't solve it for you. Fortunately, there aren't enough people on DU who will affect the final vote in the General Election, so perception problem is not a national problem by a long stretch.

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Response to PowerToThePeople (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:32 PM

91. Don't you love it when junior members tells senior members who are welcome and who aren't? nt

 

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Response to Snotcicles (Reply #91)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 12:00 AM

114. Excuse me, what makes you think I was talking to you?

I didn't call anyone in particular out; I have no I idea whether you in particular are guilty of the behavior that I was complaining about. However, I guess if the shoe fits, you should wear it.

Apparently you aren't the only one of the "senior members" who are wearing those shoes, What's appalling is that on a progressive website that "senior members" feel that they are somehow better than relatively newcomers because they have been posting on a website for longer. Wow, what an accomplishment.

One would think that on a progressive site like DU the "old timers" would respect the opinions of everyone else as much as they do their own. One would also like to believe that they were secure enough in their opinions that they wouldn't need to "pull rank" in order ensure that their opinions are considered better than others.

If you are one of the ones who is going around threatening others with your vote if you don't get what you want, that is just wrong no matter how long you have been posting here. On the other hand, if you are not doing this yourself, but you are defending others simply because you are supporting the same candidate, then you are just as guilty as they are, but you should know better.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #114)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:18 PM

118. What makes you think I wasn't talking to everyone but you? and that shoe fitting thing

 

works for either foot. Who elected you leader of the unwelcoming committee?
One would think that on a progressive site like DU the "old timers" would respect the opinions of everyone else as much as they do their own. One would also like to believe that they were secure enough in their opinions that they wouldn't need to "pull rank" in order ensure that their opinions are considered better than others.
Maybe you should show respect before demanding it of others. Old timers have history's of ill fitted shoes and rambunctious and insulting upstarts. Hang in there, the old timer migrating season is upon us.

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Response to Snotcicles (Reply #118)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:16 PM

119. I don't recall asking for your respect, but do remember you trying to garner respect....

.....based on how long you have been posting on a website. That's lame

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #119)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:25 PM

122. Asking and demanding respect will get you nowhere. It's earned. Keep trying you aren't there yet. nt

 

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Response to Snotcicles (Reply #122)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:34 PM

128. You haven't earned many respect points with your 7,000 posts.

Longevity obviously is not synonymous with being respected.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:25 PM

2. Sorry, I will be here until the Primary is over. And I support Bernie.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:25 PM

3. Aww, look what's not up to you.

 

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Response to Jester Messiah (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:46 PM

10. You're right - Skinner believes that these over emotional people will...

....eventually come to their senses. so they have until a nominee is apparent.

On the other hand, if they have the dubious right to threaten that they will not vote for the nominee, I am damn sure within my rights to say that I don't like and tell them where they can stick their threats.

Threats are only effective when someone cares that the people threatening will do what they say they will do. I just want to make it clear that I no longer care what they do.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:50 PM

12. Well it's a good thing he's got you to speak for him.

 

Though given Bernie's numbers in polls on this site, it might not be good business to throw us all out.

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Response to Jester Messiah (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:41 PM

76. Many will return after the fake Democrats leave

BSers have turned this site into a nasty place. I've been here for over 11 years and it ain't what it used to be although it is a lot better today since old what's his name was tombstoned.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:53 PM

14. So you speak for Skinner?

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Response to Hepburn (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:03 AM

18. Nope, just repeating what has been written. (n/t)

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:06 AM

20. Link? TIA

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Response to Hepburn (Reply #20)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:31 AM

23. It was in an answer Skinner provide to a question on the Ask the Administrations board

You find it yourself on the [link:http://|Ask the Administrators] board, I am not going take the time to try to find it for you. It might be easier to ask a question on that board about whether DU members are allowed to post they will not vote for the Democratic nominee during the primary season. I am certain you will get the same answer I read.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #23)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:33 AM

25. Cop out...!

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Response to Hepburn (Reply #25)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:04 AM

36. I frankly don't care whether you believe me or not - just...

... don't expect me to do your work for you. I assume you are fully capable of reading the agreement you signed when you joined you DU and, if you're curious, you can ask your own questions of the administers as to how that agreement applies to the primaries.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #36)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:20 AM

40. If you want to speak for the Admins, then you need to do better than saying I need to

evidence your allegations.

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Response to Hepburn (Reply #40)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:28 AM

48. I am not going to repeat myself if you didn't get it the first, second and third time.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:54 PM

131. some are already in their senses

to suggest that a vote against hillary means a person is not in their right mind is such screaming arrogance and is the precise reason she will LOSE.

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Response to restorefreedom (Reply #131)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:25 PM

136. Too bad we can bet on these absurd claims

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #136)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 12:56 AM

137. its the candidates job to WIN VOTES

with their positions, record, and character. if they fail to do that then their loss on them. no one is owed a vote becsuse of the letter after their name or for any reason at all. campaigning is to win votes. thats their job.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:26 PM

4. Says the guy who's been a member for six months

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:38 PM

7. It is more than a bit sad that that someone who has been here for only six months....

but has been a life long Democrat in a state where Democrats definitely aren't appreciated, has more Party loyalty than people who has been on DU for years.

There is nothing funny about that!

If we are not talking about you here, you should be a ticked as I am that some of your fellow Sander's supporters are making these threats. It's your Party too.

I make rational decisions because I am not stupid enough to act against my selfish self interests. I guess not everyone is that rational.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:34 AM

26. Just because I understand a motivation doesn't mean I share it

Also I was here in 2008 when it was the Hillary supporters pulling the PUMA act so I'm inclined to view the whole situation a bit more philosophically than someone who just breezed in and is unaware of the history of this place and the various factions thereof.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #26)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:21 AM

42. History does not excuse bad behavior.

I was a big supporter of Hillary in 2008 with both my money and my time. When she dropped out of the race, she turned over the records of all of her supporters to the Obama campaign and sent out several emails to all of her supporters, including me, asking us to support Barack. Naturally the Obama campaign contacted me almost immediately and I then devoted much more of my money and my time to getting him elected.

I am simply tired of childish behavior is which some Sanders supporters like to indulge. Frankly I don't give a rip how they end up voting - it is their vote do do with as they choose. However, it simply ridiculous to go around threatening that they will not vote for the eventually nominee if it isn't their guy when it is technically illegal on DU to do so. It makes them seem silly and desperate and sooner or later someone was going to call them one it.

I don't mean to offend, but enough is enough.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #42)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:27 AM

47. No, history tells me if Hillary loses the nomination some of her suppporters won't vote Bernie

Hell, all the claims of "Bernie is unelectable" make that absolutely clear because if everyone who would vote Hillary would also vote Bernie then he is at least as electable as she is.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #47)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:12 AM

53. I would appreciate it if you would not try to change the subject to something....

...you are more comfortable arguing about. I don't care what "history tells you" - I have myself have said on DU several times that I would vote and work for Bernie if he is the nominee. I can also not point to one Hillary supporter who has said differently. I wish that the same could be said of all Sanders supporters - but obviously it can't. In fact many Hillary supporters said that they would vote for Bernie if he is the nominee whether they believe him to be electable or not.

But none of that addresses the point I was making, so lets stick to the subject, shall we?

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:54 AM

35. Not to burst your bubble

but a good many of us who have been on DU since early in Bush's administration and who have just about had it with DWS and the DNC are lifelong Democrats. Many of us are long time party activists, but there comes a point where you have to wonder if voting for the lesser evil is really the way to go.

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #35)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:10 AM

38. agreed.

i'll be damned if someone tells me how to vote or whether to vote. that stinks. it is not american and it is not democratic. i got a letter in the envelope with my paycheck in the mid 90's from the nonprofit organization's cfo. he told us that if we knew what was good for us we would vote republican. i could not believe he thought he could influence my vote.

in addition, i do not think it is selfish in the least to not vote. it feels more like a sacrifice of my right for the rebellion and the revolution.

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Response to hopemountain (Reply #38)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:24 AM

45. I didn't tell anyone how to vote or if they vote - I made it clear I don't give a damn how they vote

I also made it clear that it is stupid and tiresome to threaten other DU folks with your vote, especially when what is threatened is technically illegal on DU.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #45)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:31 AM

49. "illegal"? but your defining how to be a democrat

is legal. you are downright insulting. good riddance.

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Response to hopemountain (Reply #49)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:56 AM

51. I'm not defining anything - however everyone who joined DU....

...did agree to abide by the rules of the site. But I didn't write the DU rules so I will not answer for them.

I am also tired of the stale, "Don't tell me how to vote!" routine. It is an old worn out reply that does not remotely apply in this situation. No one is telling anyone how to vote. I have made it abundantly clear numerous times that I don't give a damn how you or anyone else intends to vote.

I am simply expressing my opinion, which am sure you will agree I am entitled to express here on DU, that it stupid, childish and totally counter productive to threaten others with your precious vote. If you disagree, it is your right to disagree, but please refrain from trying to change the subject so that you can use your old pat replies.

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #35)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:19 AM

39. ...^ that

 

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #35)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:42 AM

50. Not to burst your bubble...

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....but how long you have been on DU is not impressive to many folks. What you and others happen to think about the DNC based on your past experiences and who you see fit to vote for are your business and only your business.

I am simply pointing out that people get tired of threats and after threats are made too many times they become meaningless. They are also stupid when they technically not allowed on DU. Threats are useless to persuade others to join in a position; they instead alienate people.

After someone makes threats to many time they should expect people to tell them, "Quit threatening me - I don't care what you do." That time has come.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #50)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:55 AM

57. My point was not how long I (or others) have been on DU

My post and in response to your holier than thou attitude about being "life long Democrat" that had "more party loyalty" than long time DUers.

My point was that a good many of us have been active in the party for a long, long time - much longer than we've been here and a good many of use are the ones who are really getting fed up with what the Democratic party has become. Blind loyalty to an organization that has abandoned the principles that made us want to join that organization or to anyone who merely puts a "D" after their name makes no sense at all.

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #57)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:37 AM

58. The party has changed that much - if anything it has become more liberal

The departure of the Southern conservatives not only drove the Republican Party to the right, it also freed the Democratic Party from it's most conservative elements Consequently the Democratic Party has drifted to the left. If anything I suspect that your disappointment is probably centered on the fact that the Democratic Party never drifted as far to the left as you would have liked.

You know there are a lot of similarities between the most conservative and the most liberal elements of their respective parties. Both are extremes unwilling to compromise their principles, but most importantly, both want to pull their parties further to the right or left than is a agreeable to the people in the middle who decide every presidential election. Both fail to understand, or more likely both are unwilling to accept the fact that in order to be able to govern a Party most win elections and that requires having a moderate agenda than you are the Tea Partiers would like.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #58)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:34 PM

93. no it has not become more liberal

 

the country has become more liberal on social issues and the Dems have followed...but the Democratic Party has not become more liberal on economic issues...the Democratic Party leadership is barely distinguishable from the Republican Party on Economic issues.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:08 AM

64. This time

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:15 PM

87. Making fun of posters because of their time on the board or their number of posts is just stupid.

Did you just miraculously start with thousands of posts?

Worst kind of snobbery is post count snobbery. Pathetic.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #87)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 12:55 AM

116. If he hadn't come in here acting like he owned the place I wouldn't have said anything

It's not like we haven't already heard that particular lecture hundreds of times by now and he was more than normally condescending about delivering it. And it's not the first or second time he's delivered that particular bit of wisdom as if he brought it down from the mountain on stone tablets.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:27 PM

5. I still helieve they will come to their senses, but I'm getting less confident

 

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:45 PM

9. I determine what my interests are and what serves them, not some

 

stranger with a burning hot agenda in service to his own fucking interests.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:48 PM

11. You don't understand plain English - I don't care what you do.

But please quit with the empty threats - they are getting old and ineffective. No one pays attention to the little boy who cried "Wolf!" too many times.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:52 PM

13. So much so that you repeatedly post to say so.

 

That's one special brand of indifference you've got going there.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:54 PM

15. A promise is NOT a threat. n/t

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Response to Hepburn (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:33 AM

24. You're right - it's worse - threats might be empty, promises - not so much.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:36 AM

27. LOL...we finally agree on something!

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 09:20 AM

60. What threat? I just said you do not know what my interests are, and the act of preaching at me

 

that I should follow your interests as my own is presumptuous. In response you hurl meaningless silly insults and claim I made an 'empty threat' simply for not bowing to your commands. When challenged you instantly show your bully. That's all you have got. Which is basically nothing.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:54 PM

16. I will tell you that it wasn't wrong. I'll also add that I couldn't care less.


What could they possibly do with lists of Hillary supporters, anyway??? They don't donate money to her, they don't go to her rallies, they don't even vote in online polls for her. They're a pretty lethargic lot, as far as I can tell.

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:12 AM

21. Really, why do they put firewall between the candidates information?

Why did all of the campaigns have to sign contracts that they would try to access the data of other campaigns?

But mostly, why did four Sanders staffers spend the 40 minutes that the firewall were down copying Hillary data and storing it in folders on their computers and then try to hide those folders from the computer vendor?

When they noticed the firewall was down, they could have called the vendors help desk and reported the problem. Instead they spent the time the firewall was down copying data. They must have thought the data was valuable are they would not have taken that risk.

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:53 AM

33. They donate but don't vote in meaningless polls

One reason I would never vote in your on line polls is because I don't want you to think that gives them legitimacy

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:04 AM

19. You really don't understand do you?

 


What they did was standard IT practice.

The people who know computers and databases KNOW this to be true.

Just look at Slashdot.

http://politics.slashdot.org/story/15/12/18/1536245/bernie-sanders-campaign-blocked-from-dnc-voter-info-after-improper-access?utm_source=commentcnt&utm_medium=feed#comments

Myself I only have 40 years in IT... started in the 1970's at Dartmouth worked at WHOI & Hospitals

"Sometimes it's better to be quiet and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt"

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Response to sonofspy777 (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:19 AM

22. Don't give me that "I am IT expert and you don't know nothing" crap!

I work in IT for a large communications company and I have 42 years of service. Even if our firewalls fail (and they better not) God help you if be caught accessing data for which you don't security permission.

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Response to sonofspy777 (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:54 AM

34. So Bernie fired a guy for doing standard IT

practice?

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:39 AM

28. So you're snarling at people for voting against their self-interests and for HAVING self-interests?

 

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:51 AM

30. I am simply expressing an opinion that people should quit making....

....idle, or not so idle threats about who they will or will not vote for. They can vote or not vote for whomever they please. I don't give a rat's butt one way or the other. Just don't threaten with you voter when you happen to be unhappy. "Bernie was done wrong, so I'm not going to vote your candidate!" That is a silly, childish, and technically illegal response on DU and such threats have long since lost their effectiveness. It is way past time that someone called them on it.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #30)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:52 AM

32. You so don't give a rat's ass that you had to start an OP and respond to every post on it.

 

I'm just concerned about the strange logic of what you wrote in your ttitle.

"How DARE you vote against your self-interests, which you're a selfish person for even HAVING!"

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #29)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:51 AM

31. I don't read BS

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #31)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:21 AM

43. Perhaps you should.

 

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Response to 840high (Reply #43)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:24 AM

54. It's like the Bible - if you use Google you can find some idiot that agrees with any opinion.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:04 AM

37. seriously? 735 posts and

you're telling us how to respond and act and defining exactly how a democrat should act?

you don't sound like a democrat. but, perhaps your preaching will be appreciated elsewhere.

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Response to hopemountain (Reply #37)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:31 AM

55. And just because you have a over 2,000 post you think your opinion are more valid than mine?

It is very likely that I was an active Democrat long before you were born. And please don't try to impress me with how long you have been of some website. That's pathetic. And I don't care what you think I sound like; your posts already have me convinced that you are not worth arguing with.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #55)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:39 AM

59. absolutely not. for starters, neither of our opinions

is more valid than the other. i take exception to your condescending attitude toward other du'ers. your uppity attitude assumes so much. i know i am older than you - but that is really neither here nor there. you just walked in the door & you are telling everyone the what for about being a democrat. sheesh! who the hell do you think you are? you sound like trump. how long i "have been of some website"? what does this even mean?

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Response to hopemountain (Reply #59)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:32 PM

74. I am who I am - and your longevity or mine on this site is not germaine to this discussion

You agree, but you still can resist pointing out that "you just walked in the door & you are telling everyone the what for about being a democrat." If you cannot debate the issues without using you longevity or my relative newness on DU as crutch, then I suggest that you stay out of the fray.

And just so you are clear on exactly what I am saying here, it is yet again, True Democrats don't go around threatening their fellow DU members to use their votes as weapons if they don't get way. And yes, if you disagree with that statement, I do question whether you are a "true Democrat". And please don't try again to use your "seniority" to keep me from expressing my opinions - that would be would be cowardly and certainly not the behavior of a "true progressive".

I agree that you are entitled to your opinions of me and my opinions and I am entitled to my opinions about what constitutes cowardly behavior in any setting. I am also entitled, to express my opinions here within the rules of DU, especially when the behavior I am addressing is clearly in violation of the rules of DU.

I shouldn't have to remind you of the terms you agreed to when you joined DU, or maybe I do since you are so old and it was so long ago. The behavior that I am protesting is not only cowardly, it is specifically banned on this website. I understand that some leniency is given during the primaries given that the administrators believe that it is idle talk and that most will come back to the fold once the nominee is chosen. However I have noticed that some who have really been pushing the limits the Administrator's patience are already being banned.

But, let me be more concise for you - you have no business telling me how I should be expressing my opinions on DU, especially on this subject.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #74)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:44 PM

98. you never know whom you will meet on the street

or in a perilous situation whereby a good Samaritan saves your life in some way and your self righteous self may be humbled. so, a good lesson to live by is be kind to others.

you brought up age, first - or did you not go back and read your first post to me.

the republican party has a greater influence of narcissists and sociopaths. the democrat party has more empaths and i venture to say, kinder more thoughtful and generous persons. which are you?

you may be able to deliver pith and rancor in your writing and criticism of others - and kick the dog when you walk in the door, grumble, judge and scowl at your neighbors - but, you do not have a friend in me and i'll be damned if someone like you will admonish, chastise and set the bar of how i use my right to vote and for whom i will vote.

don't you dare preach to me about the tos for du - unless you are a sock puppet for one of the admins. then you can do whatever you want.

i am not judging you, per se, as you have judged many of us here. my experience with you is you are quick to make insulting demands and insulting pronouncements of others. your attitude toward me is condescending and disgusting.

further, what prompted you to join du on the friday of the brouhaha with the dnc and debbie wasserman schultz's egregious actions against the bernie sanders campaign? a coinkydink?

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Response to hopemountain (Reply #98)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 12:33 AM

115. I have not judged anyone because I don't know them - I judged the actions which they ...

... have repeatedly performed for everyone, including yourself to see. I don't recall you doing it, so why do you find it necessary to defend them. Are they not capable of defending themselves?

And one other thing, if you were not one of the ones who was going around threatening other folks with your vote if you didn't get your way, why in the heck did you insert yourself into this conversation? If it wasn't your fight, why were you so anxious to join in?

And quit playing the victim - no one was addressing you personally and no one was attacking your right to vote as you please. I am not in anyway trying to tell you are anyone else how to vote. Again, and for the last time, you can vote any damn way you please as far as I am concerned You are just trying to change the subject to one with which you are more comfortable.

And as as for whay you think of me, "Frankly my dear, ............"

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #115)

Fri Dec 25, 2015, 04:32 AM

138. oh, pulling the victim blame card, huh?

typical republican. yes, i was speaking about my vote. how can i be a victim when i am telling you what you cannot demand of me or others? pfffft.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:21 AM

41. I don't take direction from those who support a morally base candidate.

 

Tell it to someone who doesn't have a white-hot hatred for a bunch of lying sacks of shit, NO FUCKING SALE.

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #41)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:45 PM

99. well put. nt.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:26 AM

46. "willing to vote against your self interests"

 

I'm unwilling to do so which is why I won't ever vote for Hillary, the worst Democratic candidate for Presidency since Reconstruction.

I also will never consider her nomination legitimate now. Never. She should do America a favor and drop out of the race.

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Response to Chan790 (Reply #46)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:42 AM

56. Glad I stayed up late tonight...


On Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:38 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

"willing to vote against your self interests"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=917166

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

The stated purpose of DU is to support Democratic nominees for public office. Since this poster states clearly that he/she is unwilling to vote for a potential and even likely nominee, the post is inappropriate for publication on DU.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:41 AM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Again (because I think I've juried one of your alerts before), the stated purpose of DU is not to support ALL candidates. Hillary is not a nominee. Please keep that in mind. I will never, ever, ever vote to silence someone you don't agree with before the convention. Seriously, y'all are making me sick with this back and forth alerting. Cut it out.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: This post runs contrary to the terms of service of Democratic Underground.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: This post will probably survive Bernie Underground, but it's a clear TOS violation.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.


Now, back out of the cesspool.

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Response to Chan790 (Reply #46)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:48 PM

77. Not legitimate? Because of unethical behavior by

the sanders campaign? That's a good one. At least you are admitting you think she'll win. That's progress.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:59 AM

52. The GOP has done pushpolls using the telephone. Don't you

think with the internet they are using places like the DU to foment hate amongst Democrats? Certainly only a tiny percentage of DUers but that is all it would take to stir the pot.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 09:48 AM

61. You've been here since June of this year...

...I've been here since 2002. And I'm not the only old timer who has some difficulties with our party's direction these days, and who does not support the front-runner at this time.

I don't need you telling me how to behave, TYVM.

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Response to ljm2002 (Reply #61)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:54 PM

67. How long you have been on a website is not indictitive of your ability to behave properly.

Nor am I the least bit concerned because of your longevity about your attempts to suppress my opinions. If you are not in agreement that everyone has a right to express their opinions within the bounds of the website's rules, even if those opinions are about the behavior of others, then you are no progressive and don't give a rip what you think.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #67)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:06 PM

70. Nevertheless...

...I don't need you, who have been here for less than 6 months, to tell me to behave on a web site where I have been a star member for 13 years, TYVM.

No suppression, just my own opinion.

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Response to ljm2002 (Reply #70)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:20 PM

89. And I don't need you.....

....to tell me what opinions I can express of DU and which I cannot. How you behave on DU is your business. How I chose to react to the behavior of other is my business alone. And to be crude, I don't give a rats ass how long you have been on a website - you longevity does not enhance your opinions in the slightest.

You can continue to try to use the claim that you have been a member for a long time as you wish, but be advised it makes your arguments appear weaker, not stronger. People with strong arguments do not need or use such claims as crutches to prop up their arguments.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #67)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:09 PM

80. And yet that's exactly what you just did.

 

During the primary it is allowable to express strong views about the candidates and indeed to say you won't vote for them, as long as you are not advocating for olthers to do the same. By telling people to 'just go, and go now!' you're doing exactly what you accuse others of.

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Response to Kentonio (Reply #80)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:09 PM

86. I'm not telling others how to vote - I am saying don't threaten to use your vote as a weapon.

You wrote: "During the primary it is allowable to express strong views about the candidates...." Absolutely correct "....and indeed to say you won't vote for them, as long as you are not advocating for olthers to do the same." Wrong! It is tolerated, not allowable.

Go back and read the rules: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice You can express "ambivalence" about voting for a particular candidate but it isn't permissible to come out and say there is no way you are going to vote for a particular candidate if he or she is the nominee. Someone just got wacked by the administrator for doing just that, not once but three times.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #86)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:01 PM

96. Who?

 

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Response to Kentonio (Reply #96)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:18 PM

120. Haven't you been paying attention?

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #120)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:25 PM

123. If you're talking about Manny, his ban was for advocating not just for saying he would do that.

 

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 09:48 AM

62. Unlike some people.....

My vote is not for sale. It must be earned. Hillary has not shown the qualities needed to earn that vote. Period. Also, I'm a lifelong democrat, so don't bother pulling the "this is DU" bullshit with me. A vote is sacred. It takes more then just having a "D" next to your name. You have to live up to that "D".

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Response to Splinter Cell (Reply #62)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:57 PM

68. Again, I don't give a flip how you vote or for what reason you vote

I am just saying that threatening to use your vote a as a weapon against other DU users is disgusting and far from a appreciated.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:06 AM

63. Ahh yes...

... the same old "where ya gonna go?" threat.

You need to get some fresh material. This is no longer the only game in town.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #63)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:05 PM

69. It's not a threat -I don't make threats

Threats are the province of cowards. I am sure that there are plenty of discussion sites where folks will be welcomed after the primaries are over if they chose not to post here. Life is full of choices.

And I am not the one using my vote as a threat against other DU members. I consider such treats as cowardly and despicable and I was honest enough to say so. If you don't like my condemnation of such threats, tough.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #69)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:29 PM

73. You sir...

... far over-rate the importance of this place. How I plan to vote comes as zero consequence of anything or anyone on this website. You have your thoughts about what's cowardly, I have mine.

I think it's pretty gawddamn cowardly to continually threaten people with banishment to silence them from honestly expressing themselves when they have had their fill of being fucked over by the same lying neoliberal politicians and won't support or vote for them ever again.

BTW, how's working out for you?

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #73)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:31 PM

90. I haven't threatened anyone with banishments....

But you are absolutely right - how you or I vote will make not an iota of difference in the General election. In fact, if everyone who is a member of DU voted together for one candidate or the other in the general election, or didn't vote at all, I sincerely doubt if it would make any difference at all.

However, I think you can understand that when people repeatedly threaten to use their vote as a weapon if they don't get their way, it gets to be very tiresome and irritating. You shouldn't excuse the bad behavior of others just because they happen to be on your side.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #90)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:51 PM

100. Same boring bullshit, different reply.

Repeating bullshit doesn't make it smell any different. It's still bullshit.

Frankly, I care fuckall what you think of my "behavior." I am not intimidated.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #100)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:30 PM

125. No one is trying to intimidate you

and if you think what I have written is BS, perhaps you should have your nose checked. Perhaps you are smelling you own sinuses. That happens sometimes when your head is messed up.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:55 AM

65. I welcome them here.

 

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #65)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:09 PM

71. Of course you do - you are the one who most tries to use your vote as weapon

Except, you don't so much make threats about what you will do with you vote if Bernie loses the nomination - you make promises. Too bad we won't be seeing you around after the primaries. Of course, that assumes you won't abandon your ideals.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #71)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:22 PM

72. Well, I'll be around and I won't surrender my principles.

 


Will you?

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #72)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:58 PM

79. Won't it be difficult for you whan Sanders loses to continue to stick around DU without....

... telling everyone that you are not going to vote for the Democratic nominee. Would that not constitute a "deception" and and "violation of your principles". Or perhaps you are not so principled after all.

And yes I can anticipate your next post, "I will be here because Bernie is going to win the nomination". To which I will answer with a rolling over with laughter smilly and write, "how long have you been engaged in self deception".

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #79)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:12 PM

81. Difficult? Not at all.

 

I rather doubt that Bernie will win the nomination. If so, I will vote for him. If not, I'll vote for someone else.

Your vote may belong to Clinton, my vote belongs to me.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #81)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:29 PM

83. What you seem to have difficulty understanding is that no one cares how you vote.

least of all me. I'll check with you after the primaries.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #83)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:33 PM

84. I'm sure you will.

 

You may not "care" but you seem awfully concerned about how I vote or what I say about my vote.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #84)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:54 PM

85. How you vote - no. How you threaten others with you vote - yes.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #85)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:33 PM

95. Who is being threatened?

 

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:59 AM

66. I do not blame HRC

I blame her Toadie DWS and the DNC.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:33 PM

75. I do believe it is up to Skinner to tell people when they are not welcome here.

Not you.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:48 PM

78. Insult those who cry out in your own party at your own peril

 

People aren't crying out for nothing. They feel under-represented and mistreated. They have been for decades, as this party lurches to the Right, screwing everyone along with the Republicans.

Then, when someone who authentically seems to represent a Leftist point of view comes into the process and gains a large following (how large - you say it is small, but you don't really even know how extensive it is, and I assure you it isn't small or insignificant), the Democratic Party takes every opportunity to tell them they don't really matter, why don't they just get into line anyway, there really is no problem with fairness in the nomination process, or with collusion between the DNC and Hillary Clinton's campaign.

Give me a break!!!

I judge people and organizations by what they stand for, and if the Democratic Party stands for the same corrupt mistreatment of Progressives and everything they stand for, then it stops being my party.

Hillary is doing just fine in the debates. The biggest complaint that se Sanders people have had is in the scheduling and amount of debates. Why not join the call for more debates and just schedule them? Because then the cake they have already ordered for Hillary for the night of her coronation may have to be a little bit smaller? No, do these things, right these wrongs, and yes, people like me may actually start donating to the DNC again!!!!!

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Response to highprincipleswork (Reply #78)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:15 PM

82. I have learned that many of the people who threaten to use their votes as weapons are not..

Democrats. Many have admitted that they are only here on DU because Bernie is in the running for the Democratic nomination; otherwise they wouldn't be here. If Bernie doesn't win, and I anticipate he won't, many have said that there is not way they could vote for Hillary. Had Bernie not been running they would have voted for a third party candidate anyway. You can't lose what you never had.

Most of the rest will either "hold their noses and vote for Clinton" or, if they live in a blue state, they may not vote. Regardless, they are far more worried about a Republican victory than a Clinton victory.

Unfortunately some of the overly emotional, less than pragmatic among us will actually carry though with their threats. That is inevitable - they are so ticked at the "Democratic establishment" and more moderate Democrats that they are probably already lost, but don't forget the Republicans have the same problem regardless of who they nominate.

Regardless, I don't think that the rest of us need to sit while they threaten to use their votes as weapons. Threats are only truly defused when those threatened make it clear that they don't care.

And by the way, I never condemn any candidate for not giving their opponents any advantage they seek. That would just be dumb.

T

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #82)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:23 PM

97. Well, stick this in your craw. I am one example, and a lifelong Democrat, over forty years.

 

And I can tell you, it burns me to the max that the Democratic Party is putting forth one candidate above the others, the one they have selected.

We are supposed to be a representative party, a party that represents the true wishes of the people, and champions them. We also, allegedly, want to win.

You don't win by pissing off large segments of your voting public, and don't fool yourself that they aren't Democrats. I am, my friends are, my relatives are, and we all feel the same.

Why live in the same kind of glass bubble, like those in Washington?

Why not hold a reasonable number of debates, at reasonable times, instead of an agenda that even outside parties can view as false. I mean, c'mon, debates the Saturday evening before Christmas? With all the counter-programming going on? In Iowa at the same time as a major Iowa football game.

It is absolutely clear that these debates are not scheduled to give Democrats everywhere are full and complete view of their possible candidates.

finally, since Hillary is acknowledged as doing so well in the debates, double the reason to hold more.

Why not? What's to lose? That gloating sense of superiority of being inside on the rigged game?

My suggestion is that you and DWS and DNC and Hilary quit the "superiority" game, if they want to attract the kind of crowds they are going to need to have to win the election.

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Response to highprincipleswork (Reply #97)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:08 PM

104. I'm glad that you had this chance to vent - but you're off topic and I have...

... zero control of DWS and the DNC. Please take your anger elseware.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #104)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:26 AM

117. I am not at all off topic and you're the one who told people to leave and not let the door hit them

 

I find it kind of sad that Hillary supporters are quite as condescending as they are. They like to think they have some kind of moral or intellectual superiority, which is never really proven in any way.

Angry? I am livid that the Democratic Party that exists right now is just as corrupt in their own way as anything else, when it serves no purpose and doesn't have to be that way.

And I am trying to tell any Clinton supporter that will listen, and there don't seem to be many or even any, that neither they, nor Hillary, nor the party, nor Democratic chances in November are served by pissing off a large portion of potential Democratic supporters. And that the solution is easy - run a fair nomination process and even bend over backwards to make it so and appear to be so.

A truly strong person, candidate, group of people would easily see that as the truth and act on it. Dog eat dog believers, not so much.

This is supposed to be one party. Look after those who feel disenfranchised, particularly when there is so little to lose. Hillary has done just fine in debates. Have more of them. Easy answer.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:33 PM

92. Well bless your heart.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:06 PM

94. You're telling people to "calm down" after your angry diatribe? Hillarious.

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Response to CharlotteVale (Reply #94)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:38 PM

113. I'm glad you are amused - but I don't remember telling you anything

As best I can tell you are the one sticking his nose in this conversation.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:53 PM

101. everything you accuse those of us

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who are upset about the dnc clinton bias
is exactly how you are responding. just to reflect back to you here - these are your insulting words/implications:
selfish
dumb
selfish
pity "i feel sorry for you"
passion is a bad way to be
misplaced anger
ahead of common sense
irrational
irrational (implied)
need calming down
demands support the the nominee or
go now!
insult "don't let the door hit you in the butt"
insulting "you are much smaller "
unwelcome

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Response to hopemountain (Reply #101)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:10 PM

105. I am honored that you paid so much attention to my posts

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #105)

Fri Dec 25, 2015, 10:46 PM

140. i've only read this one thread/op by you.

conflate, much? our only back and forth has been here. no need to flatter yourself.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 09:05 PM

102. For those of you who lack the integrity to refuse to vote only for someone you believe in

 

I feel sorry for you. It must suck to be so frightened.Those of you who will always toe the party line, you are the reason we will have a choice between evil and evil lite. Me I won't vote for evil no matter what letter is beside their name on the ballot. I was fool for voting a straight party ticket in every electing since 1976, Those days are over.

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #102)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:18 PM

107. Again, I don't care how you vote - why is it important to you to tell everyone....

....that you aren't going to vote a straight ticket. No one wants to to look over your shoulder as you mark your ballot or peep through the curtain after you have entered the voting booth. And those of us who are supporting other candidates are long past caring what you will do with your vote if your guy doesn't win. Let me repeat - No one cares!

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 09:48 PM

103. I'm trying to parse the difference

between "selfish self-interests" and say, "altruistic self-interests."

Spent some time on it, then decided it was more trouble than it was worth, and decided to make dinner instead.

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Response to saltpoint (Reply #103)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:19 PM

108. probably a good decision

I hope dinner was delicious.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #108)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:21 PM

109. It was. Bobby Jindal dropped by. We

spoke at length about the need for exorcisms in these troubled times.

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Response to saltpoint (Reply #109)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:35 PM

111. LOL

It's scary when Bobby Jindal almost seems rational when compared to other candidates.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:17 PM

106. A little music for your ranting

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #106)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:22 PM

110. Not one of Bo Diddley's best eforts

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #110)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:36 PM

112. It was a perfect match for yours.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #112)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:19 PM

121. I hope you didn't spend too much time trying to find it.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:30 AM

124. Not to mention the interests of PLanet EArth.. but, oh well.. there's always going to be those types

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Response to Cha (Reply #124)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:32 PM

126. I am sure the planet earth will be in better hands with the Republicans in charge.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:34 PM

127. Condensending OP of the day.

eom

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Response to JonathanRackham (Reply #127)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:40 PM

129. You're a little late, the OP is already 4 days old.

Thanks for the kick though.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #129)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:42 PM

130. Condensending OP of the week.

Fixed it. Make ya happy?

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 07:48 PM

132. Is that you, James? Sorry to tell you but you backed the wrong horse in this race.

2016 is shaping up to be 2008 all over again.

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Response to peacebird (Reply #132)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:23 PM

135. Nope, it's not James, and...

... I am not a big betting man so I don't bet except on sure things.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:41 PM

134. I will support the Democratic Nominee no matter what

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Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Fri Dec 25, 2015, 07:56 AM

139. Woooho glad we have you to tell us what to do!

 

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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #139)

Sat Dec 26, 2015, 01:55 AM

141. I'm confused

Am I supposed to vote FOR, or AGAINST, my "selfish self-interests"?

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Response to HoneychildMooseMoss (Reply #141)

Sat Dec 26, 2015, 02:07 AM

142. I was wondering the same thing. if your self interests are selfish, the right thing to do

WOULD be to vote against them one would think.

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