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Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:36 AM

 

If your primary were held today, whom would you vote for?


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Bernie Sanders
42 (78%)
Hillary Clinton
12 (22%)
Martin O'Malley
0 (0%)
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Reply If your primary were held today, whom would you vote for? (Original post)
Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 OP
merrily Dec 2015 #1
Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #2
merrily Dec 2015 #3
Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #12
1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #6
bvf Dec 2015 #4
olddots Dec 2015 #5
bigwillq Dec 2015 #7
Vinca Dec 2015 #8
cali Dec 2015 #9
Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #10
PragmaticLiberal Dec 2015 #11
FSogol Dec 2015 #13
Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #14
FSogol Dec 2015 #35
Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #37
elleng Dec 2015 #39
Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #43
FSogol Dec 2015 #44
elleng Dec 2015 #45
Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #46
elleng Dec 2015 #38
Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #15
senz Dec 2015 #28
reddread Dec 2015 #16
Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #17
PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #18
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #19
Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #20
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #21
Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #40
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #41
senz Dec 2015 #22
senz Dec 2015 #24
VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #29
Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #31
KMOD Dec 2015 #33
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #36
senz Dec 2015 #23
John Poet Dec 2015 #25
ronnykmarshall Dec 2015 #26
MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #27
Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #42
Splinter Cell Dec 2015 #30
Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #32
AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #34

Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:43 AM

1. I'm still mulling it over.

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Response to merrily (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:47 AM

2. Well, I set the poll for unlimited time to respond, so take all the time you need.

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:08 AM

3. I probably won't know for certain until I step into the polling booth--and even then....

I hope the people waiting in line to vote will be patient!

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Response to merrily (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:02 AM

12. I somehow find that hard to believe, merrily!

 

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Response to merrily (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:51 AM

6. LOL. eom.

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:11 AM

4. I love brainteasers! n/t

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:46 AM

5. what there is a primary election ??????

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:02 AM

7. Bernie (nt)

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:08 AM

8. Bernie (NH primary).

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:24 AM

9. I would never vote for Clinton in my primary. Never.

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:38 AM

10. I vote sanders period.

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:54 AM

11. Martin O'Malley

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:04 AM

13. O'Malley

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Response to FSogol (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:13 AM

14. Serious question for the O'Malley backers.

 

If Hill and Bern are tied at 40% each in the latest polls before your primary, and Marty only has 1%, would you really risk having Hillary over Bernie? Not going to bash anyone, just curious.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:08 AM

35. Well, since you asked (and I also don't mean to bash anyone),

You are asking us to triangulate between O'Malley and Sanders to block HRC. I see the election as much more than stopping HRC, I see it as the way to block the disastrous fools in the GOP and to continue recent Democratic successes, pushing the party further leftward. We need another 16 years of Democratic presidents to remake the Supreme court. I don't care about blocking HRC, because she'd be light years better than any Repub running (or living). We need to win and win and win.

Sanders says all the right things and is correct on almost every issue, but truthfully, his legislative record is very meager. Our party needs a dynamic President that can launch a new deal style of policies and tackle multiple issues at once. That candidate is O'Malley. He is most similar to FDR and JFK. FDR and JFK had accomplishments. Sanders is most similar to Dennis Kucinich. O'Malley has the best record of anyone running with actual accomplishments such as:

1. Ended death penalty in Maryland
2. Prevented fracking in Maryland and put regulations in the way to prevent next GOP Gov Hogan fom easily allowing fracking.
3. Provided health insurance for 380,000
4. Reduced infant mortality to an all time low.
5. Provided meals to thousands of hungry children and moved toward a goal for eradicating childhood hunger.
6. Enacted a $10.10 living wage and a $11. minimum wage for State workers.
7. Supporter the Dream Act
8. Cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders (raised taxes on the rich).
9. Reformed Marylandís tax code to make it more progressive.
10. Enacted some of the nationís most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.

O'Malley similarly has the most comprehensive, most workable plans of anyone running. His plans are listed here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12813600

Sanders' and HRC's plans are more like wish lists which are not likely to pass a divided Congress. O'Malley's plans are more grounded in reality, like limiting college tuition and helping students with a plan to make college debt free rather than Sanders' "make college free" wishful idea. O'Malley's plan is here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12813600#post13
If you haven't read the plan, take a minute and look it over. It is something that is seldom seem in politics, comprehensive with goals, dates, etc.

Things like Single Payer don't come about like a newborn baby, they come in steps, Social Security, medicare, the ACA, and hopefully a next step.

Sanders expects everything to change overnight. A legislator without many accomplishments is expected, by his supporters on DU, to not only have more accomplishments than Obama, but to cause a revolution that changes everything. Sorry, but that idea is childish, not happening, and not likely to happen. The reason his supporters expect it to happen is because he speaks well on the issues? Having the right ideas and policies is a good first step, but being able to implement those ideas is vitally important. Sanders has not shown he can do that while O'Malley has a good track record of getting his policies enacted and paying off for the people in his state.

Why O'Malley? Because he is the best candidate running.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #35)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:43 AM

37. OK - too bad he has no chance - otherwise I might be voting for him.

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #37)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:47 AM

39. That makes NO SENSE, this is NOT A HORSE RACE,

this is an election, where responsible citizens select the candidate they think can best do the job they want to be done.

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Response to elleng (Reply #39)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:52 AM

43. Only if you want to elect a rethuglican. That REALLY makes no sense.

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #43)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:56 AM

44. I am confident that whoever the Democrats nominate, that they will defeat the Repubs.

The triangulation you proposed is unnecessary. I'll continue to support the candidate I feel is the best.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #44)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:05 PM

45. ABSOLUTELY, whoever the Democrats nominate will defeat the repugs!

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Response to FSogol (Reply #44)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:21 PM

46. Just reality, I'm afraid. Hillary won't have a chance.

 

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Response to FSogol (Reply #35)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:45 AM

38. THANK YOU, FSogol, for setting it out so clearly.

These are concrete reasons why we support Martin O'Malley.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:23 AM

15. I voted 15 times for Hillary on this on line poll

See how that works?

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:31 PM

28. Ha! Knew it!

 

Can't trust them online types.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 07:28 PM

16. same results every time?

 

bubble. unscientific. kucinich.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:00 PM

17. The funny thing about this is.....

 

...that the number of posts from Bernie supporters is roughly the same as those from Hillary supporters.

I would even go so far as to say that the number of rude and/or over-the-top posts from Bernie and Hillary supporters are roughly the same.


Assuming those two statements are true, and there are ~4 times as many Bernie supporters here than there are Hillary supporters (as this poll suggests at the time I am posting this)...


Just what does that say about the Hillary supporters here?








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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:09 PM

18. Just what we all know already.

 

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:13 PM

19. I noticed the same thing.

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Most of the toxic posts/threads in this forum are from one side, I thought they were a minority?








*note to jury: this is an opinion only, and by saying "most" I'm also noting that one side is not solely responsible for toxic posts/threads

No supporters were harmed in the making of this post.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:21 PM

20. Minority, Yes.... Persecuted, not so much.

 


It really does look like they are at least 4 times worse than Bernie supporters.




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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:23 PM

21. It's gotten much better since a few have gone on vacation.

I'd say the toxicity level dropped by at least 50%.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #21)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:47 AM

40. Also, I have most of them on full ignore. Can't stand the lies and bullshit.

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #40)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:50 AM

41. Very wise, that must make it almost tolerable.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:00 PM

24. + 10

 

I will vouch that no supporters were harmed in the making of that post.

Not even athletic supporters, ha ha ha (please excuse, I grew up with boys)

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #17)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:39 AM

29. Are they Democrats?

 

Thats what it says about them....

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #17)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:28 AM

31. I must say that I was genuinely shocked by the sliminess of some of

Clinton's most ardent supporters. It is clear as the figures point out that proportionally more Hillary supporters are using a lot more scorched earth - win at any cost - twist any half-truth and tell any lie tactics.

I do not know who they think they are going to win over with these Rovian tactics.

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #17)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:27 AM

33. No. It's not.

 

Just one look at the Greatest Page, would stop most Democrats from joining this site.

It's embarrassing. No one wants to recommend this site to other friends at this point.

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Response to KMOD (Reply #33)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:12 AM

36. This.

 

The anti-union talk coming out of one group here is enough to drive democrats away. I can't believe how much I have read here about corrupt union bosses without one shred of evidence to back it up. The same holds true for almost all issues. Civil Rights leaders have been called "bought and sold" by some members here. It is painful to watch. I can't wait until the primaries are over.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:41 PM

23. I'm voting for the people's candidate.

 

After thirty years of oligarchy ...

it's the people's turn.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:04 PM

25. I thought the primary was over?

 

I must have slept through that and the convention also...



or at least that's the impression one gets,
when reading the posts of the Hillarybots.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:13 PM

26. Why bother ....

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Response to ronnykmarshall (Reply #26)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:17 PM

27. I actually think we might be moving up just a bit.

 

Though, my post may incite the clickety-clickers.

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Response to ronnykmarshall (Reply #26)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:50 AM

42. It wasn't a bother at all, but thanks for caring.

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:20 AM

30. Sanders

I could also vote for O'Malley, but not Billary.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:10 AM

32. Alaska holds a caucus,

but I'll be there on Bernie's behalf.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:04 AM

34. Aww, only 29 votes for Hillary

29 supporters but they are loud to compensate for their small size.

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