Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:30 PM
hill2016 (1,772 posts)
Poll: fear of a terrorist attack is top-ranked concern by AmericansLast edited Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:15 AM - Edit history (1)
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/11/us/politics/fear-of-terrorism-lifts-donald-trump-in-new-york-times-cbs-poll.html
OK, since this is the top-ranked issue by the American people, Bernie supporters can no longer claim that economic/social justice is the most pressing concern. I don't suppose we'll be getting a national security speech from Bernie anytime soon? Given that this is the top-ranked concern of Americans, I hope that the next debate will spend the most time on this issue. Americans are more fearful about the likelihood of another terrorist attack than at any other time since the weeks after Sept. 11, 2001, a gnawing sense of dread that has helped lift Donald J. Trump to a new high among Republican primary voters, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.
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hill2016 | Dec 2015 | OP |
Art_from_Ark | Dec 2015 | #1 | |
hill2016 | Dec 2015 | #2 | |
Scootaloo | Dec 2015 | #3 | |
Name removed | Dec 2015 | #5 | |
Scootaloo | Dec 2015 | #8 | |
beam me up scottie | Dec 2015 | #21 | |
DJ13 | Dec 2015 | #7 | |
hill2016 | Dec 2015 | #11 | |
Scootaloo | Dec 2015 | #14 | |
bvf | Dec 2015 | #17 | |
Hepburn | Dec 2015 | #45 | |
arcane1 | Dec 2015 | #52 | |
TSIAS | Dec 2015 | #59 | |
JaneyVee | Dec 2015 | #33 | |
Scootaloo | Dec 2015 | #46 | |
JaneyVee | Dec 2015 | #47 | |
Scootaloo | Dec 2015 | #48 | |
artislife | Dec 2015 | #61 | |
Name removed | Dec 2015 | #4 | |
Art_from_Ark | Dec 2015 | #13 | |
OnyxCollie | Dec 2015 | #19 | |
Art_from_Ark | Dec 2015 | #20 | |
ibegurpard | Dec 2015 | #6 | |
Agschmid | Dec 2015 | #9 | |
ibegurpard | Dec 2015 | #10 | |
Agschmid | Dec 2015 | #12 | |
morningfog | Dec 2015 | #15 | |
artislife | Dec 2015 | #62 | |
Rosa Luxemburg | Dec 2015 | #16 | |
Kentonio | Dec 2015 | #26 | |
Ed Suspicious | Dec 2015 | #29 | |
cosmicone | Dec 2015 | #18 | |
beam me up scottie | Dec 2015 | #22 | |
Fumesucker | Dec 2015 | #23 | |
Art_from_Ark | Dec 2015 | #37 | |
Bluenorthwest | Dec 2015 | #42 | |
artislife | Dec 2015 | #63 | |
Live and Learn | Dec 2015 | #24 | |
Betty Karlson | Dec 2015 | #25 | |
Ed Suspicious | Dec 2015 | #30 | |
Betty Karlson | Dec 2015 | #31 | |
AgingAmerican | Dec 2015 | #27 | |
orpupilofnature57 | Dec 2015 | #28 | |
JaneyVee | Dec 2015 | #32 | |
sufrommich | Dec 2015 | #44 | |
NCTraveler | Dec 2015 | #34 | |
TheBlackAdder | Dec 2015 | #35 | |
riversedge | Dec 2015 | #38 | |
TheBlackAdder | Dec 2015 | #41 | |
riversedge | Dec 2015 | #36 | |
workinclasszero | Dec 2015 | #39 | |
NurseJackie | Dec 2015 | #40 | |
Bluenorthwest | Dec 2015 | #43 | |
Tierra_y_Libertad | Dec 2015 | #49 | |
hill2016 | Dec 2015 | #50 | |
Tierra_y_Libertad | Dec 2015 | #56 | |
arcane1 | Dec 2015 | #51 | |
upaloopa | Dec 2015 | #53 | |
deathrind | Dec 2015 | #54 | |
firebrand80 | Dec 2015 | #55 | |
ecstatic | Dec 2015 | #57 | |
artislife | Dec 2015 | #64 | |
Kalidurga | Dec 2015 | #58 | |
artislife | Dec 2015 | #65 | |
Lancero | Dec 2015 | #60 | |
AgingAmerican | Dec 2015 | #66 | |
jfern | Dec 2015 | #67 |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:32 PM
Art_from_Ark (27,247 posts)
1. You can cower under your bed if you like
Don't forget to stock up on tuna and duct tape.
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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #1)
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:34 PM
hill2016 (1,772 posts)
2. why
are you dismissing the number one concern of Americans?
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Response to hill2016 (Reply #2)
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:37 PM
Scootaloo (25,699 posts)
3. Because it's irrational.
Here are some more legitimate worries:
- Drowning in your own bathtub - Auto accident - Autocannibalism - Getting shot by a totally non-terrorist lone nut gunman woth no motive at all, promise - Getting bitten by a shark made of lighning - Acetaminophen overdose - Fnord - Barroom stabbings - Getting your head caught in an automatic salmon-canner |
Response to Scootaloo (Reply #3)
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Response to Name removed (Reply #5)
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:46 PM
Scootaloo (25,699 posts)
8. Sorry, Cthulhu was killed by a dinghy to the head.
Settle for Yog-Sothoth?
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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #8)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:28 AM
beam me up scottie (57,349 posts)
21. Stealing that!
I have to get something worthwhile out this thread.
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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #3)
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:45 PM
DJ13 (23,671 posts)
7. Autocannibalism
Thats my biggest fear.
I'm always afraid my car is going to say its had enough and then eat me. ![]() ![]() |
Response to Scootaloo (Reply #3)
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:57 PM
hill2016 (1,772 posts)
11. I sense you are mocking
the 19% of Americans for whom terrorism is the top concern.
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Response to hill2016 (Reply #11)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:11 AM
Scootaloo (25,699 posts)
14. I also mock the 27% who think Trump is fucking amazing.
And the 48% who think the story of genesis is how the world actually came into existence.
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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #14)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:31 AM
bvf (6,604 posts)
17. Ding! Ding! Ding! n/t
Response to hill2016 (Reply #11)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:27 PM
arcane1 (38,613 posts)
52. The 19% who are so easily manipulated? Definitely!
Response to hill2016 (Reply #11)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:10 PM
TSIAS (14,689 posts)
59. Some people deserve be mocked
“I’m mad about the Muslims coming in, I’m mad about the economy and I’m mad because we got a stupid president, and that’s about it,” said Manuel Hart. From that article. Other stupid people are quoted in that piece. If this election is about fear and terrorism Trump will win. |
Response to Scootaloo (Reply #3)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:16 AM
JaneyVee (19,877 posts)
33. Right, but none of those things...
Are trying to get their hands on nukes. It only takes one.
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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #33)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 10:59 AM
Scootaloo (25,699 posts)
46. You don't know if lightning-sharks are seeking nuclear technology!
Response to Scootaloo (Reply #46)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:25 AM
JaneyVee (19,877 posts)
47. But we do know that terrorists are.
Response to JaneyVee (Reply #47)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:00 PM
Scootaloo (25,699 posts)
48. But think about it. Radioactive lightning sharks! AREN'T YOU SCARED?!
Response to Scootaloo (Reply #46)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:27 PM
artislife (9,497 posts)
61. So how do I get alerts to see all your posts
because you are on fiyah!
There should be an app for it! |
Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #1)
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Response to Name removed (Reply #4)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:08 AM
Art_from_Ark (27,247 posts)
13. How could I have forgotten those essential items?
My memory's not what it used to be, I guess
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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #13)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:12 AM
OnyxCollie (9,958 posts)
19. Tuna and dried milk!
STOCK UP NOW!!!
On edit: I see you remembered the tuna... but forgot the dried milk. NO CASSEROLE FOR YOU! |
Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #19)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:21 AM
Art_from_Ark (27,247 posts)
20. That's OK
I hate tuna casserole anyway
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:43 PM
ibegurpard (16,685 posts)
6. And it's up to real LEADERS
To calm then down and not give in to the lemming fear mentality. Or worse try to tap into it for selfish political gain.
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:49 PM
Agschmid (28,749 posts)
9. This Hillary supporter says the underpaid workers is the most pressing issue.
Response to Agschmid (Reply #9)
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:50 PM
ibegurpard (16,685 posts)
10. Then you're supporting the wrong candidate
Response to ibegurpard (Reply #10)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:03 AM
Agschmid (28,749 posts)
12. I've been told a million times in not a Bernie supporter.
And I think Hillary will do good for income inequality, she addresses it quite often and confidently in the town halls I've seen.
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:19 AM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
15. 19% said terrorism (terrorism or ISIS), 8% said economy, 8% said politicians, 24% said "other."
A combined 16% are most concerned about what Bernie is talking about. And 24% said other.
This poll is pretty meaningless. People are scared right now, but not even as concerned about terrorism as they are other. |
Response to morningfog (Reply #15)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:30 PM
artislife (9,497 posts)
62. I find it sad
That people are really afraid of ISIS and not of fracking or poisons in our food.
Of the fact that some scientists are now saying humans probably have only another 100 or so years... |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:23 AM
Rosa Luxemburg (28,627 posts)
16. the terror thing is being whooped up again in the media
you probably have more chance of being killed in a car crash than a terrorist attack.
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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #16)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 05:47 AM
Kentonio (4,377 posts)
26. 1,904 times more likely
You're also 5,882 times more likely to die from medical error than terrorism.
187 times more likely to starve to death in American than be killed by terrorism. or indeed.. 22 times more likely to die from a brain-eating zombie parasite than a terrorist. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-terrorism-statistics-every-american-needs-to-hear/5382818 |
Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #16)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 06:41 AM
Ed Suspicious (8,879 posts)
29. No probably about it. If it were even close I would have a much more concerned view of the dangers
of terrorism, but it is even in the same universe.
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:03 AM
cosmicone (11,014 posts)
18. But .. but ... we don't wanna talk no terrorism today
today (and every day) is about economic inequality.
Them terrorists can be ignored for a while .. or at least until the NH primary. |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:33 AM
beam me up scottie (57,349 posts)
22. A terrorist attack is at the top of my list.
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:46 AM
Fumesucker (45,851 posts)
23. Remember when the M$M was all Ebola all the time?
And remember how Fearbola got shut off like a switch right after the election?
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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #23)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:34 AM
Art_from_Ark (27,247 posts)
37. And before that it was SARS, and bird flu, and swine flu, and West Nile virus
Next on the list: Legionnaire's Disease makes a comeback
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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #23)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 10:13 AM
Bluenorthwest (45,319 posts)
42. Yes, it did not compare favorably with the apathy and neglect that met the very real AIDS crisis
when about 40,000 Americans had died over 7 years before Ronald 'St Ron' Reagan bothered to say the word AIDS out loud. We had one (1) foreign tourist who came here with Ebola die of Ebola and the straights had a frothing panic about it. 40,000 of their neighbors die, they elect Reagan again and wonder why LGBT still don't trust them.
So yeah, I remember. I also compare and contrast to the past and the result is not that charming, really. |
Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #42)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:31 PM
artislife (9,497 posts)
63. ^^^this.
Criminal behavoir, imo.
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 04:06 AM
Live and Learn (12,769 posts)
24. Agreed, Bernie should talk about how policies Hillary supported and still supports create terrorism.
But he already does that and he is right. He just leaves her name out.
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 05:16 AM
Betty Karlson (7,231 posts)
25. Poll: the media succeded in obsessing about TERROR (tm)
More polls from the coronation committee. How much money are the 1 % going to spend on building that echo chamber of theirs where only carefully selected individuals answer carefully leading question that indicate support for a carefully overpromoted candidate who will guarantee the careful preservation of their overprivileged lifestyle?
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Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #25)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 06:44 AM
Ed Suspicious (8,879 posts)
30. Love this!
Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #30)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 07:40 AM
Betty Karlson (7,231 posts)
31. I'll take that as a compliment Ed.
But regardless of your appreciation of the description, what is described is the stuff that makes me weap and wake at night. (Literally: I haven't slept in 1 1/2 day...)
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 05:51 AM
AgingAmerican (12,958 posts)
27. Her supporters have abandoned any pretense of being Democrats
Op after op after op pushing GOP ideology. How sad. So much for Hillary the progressive.
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 06:00 AM
orpupilofnature57 (15,472 posts)
28. Hillary supporters use Fear to promote a person partially resposible for the anomosity . n/t
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:14 AM
JaneyVee (19,877 posts)
32. A testament to Obama's monumental economic accomplishments.
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:19 AM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
34. I hope our debates focus on poverty.
Of course national security will be discussed.
My concern with these polls that won't be addressed. I think a majority of the American people, in the back of their minds, consider many things to be terrorism that aren't recognized as such in these conversations. They are equating all of these shootings with terrorism, and in my opinion they should. What they don't realize due to the way the stories present themselves is that their real fear is the terrorist organization called the NRA. |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:24 AM
TheBlackAdder (25,696 posts)
35. I didn't realize this was a time-waster OP. I'd be worried of the Institutions allowing an attack.
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As we've seen in the 2004 elections, the CODE RED works quite well. I wonder if institutional forces would allow another hit to steer the election of a Right Winger or the most hawkish! . |
Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #35)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:43 AM
riversedge (64,838 posts)
38. Dangerous RW conspiracy theoriesdo not belong on DU--a Democratic site.
Response to riversedge (Reply #38)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:52 AM
TheBlackAdder (25,696 posts)
41. Well, it's not a theory.
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First, the CODE RED was factual. Second, I'm not expressing a theory, as that says what will be happening to steer elections and pinpointing a specific element. I'm expressing that history might repeat itself, as it was so effective before. . |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:29 AM
riversedge (64,838 posts)
36. **Dec 10 CBS poll--voters choose Hillary over Sanders on Terroism***
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251893163 Clinton Leads Sanders: Primary voters R very confident in Her ability to handle Economy & Terrorism b]Great news for Hillary and her Team CBS News December 10, 2015, 6:34 PM CBS/New York Times poll: Hillary Clinton continues to lead Democratic field http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-nyt-poll-hillary-clinton-continues-to-lead-democratic-field/ By Anthony Salvanto, Jennifer De Pinto, Sarah Dutton and Fred Backus Hillary Clinton continues to lead Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders by 20 points: She receives 52 percent of Democratic primary voters' support, while Sanders gets 32 percent. Just 2 percent support former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley. Clinton leads among many voter groups - men, women, liberals, moderates, non-whites and voters over age 45. But Sanders performs better with voters under 45 and independents. Handling the Issues Clinton has an advantage over Sanders on two important issues: more Democratic primary voters are very confident in Clinton's (81 percent) than in Sanders' (65 percent) ability to handle the economy and terrorism........... ![]() |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:44 AM
workinclasszero (28,270 posts)
39. Bernie dont wanna talk about that
next question.
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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #39)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:46 AM
NurseJackie (42,862 posts)
40. Way harsh...
... but funny.
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 10:17 AM
Bluenorthwest (45,319 posts)
43. 19% of Americans? That is encouraging as it is pretty low considering the recent events here
and in Paris and Brussels. 19% is very far from a majority and that's good for Democrats because terrorism is Trump's calling card and it does not seem to be a strong one.
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:06 PM
Tierra_y_Libertad (50,414 posts)
49. What is of concern to people is not decided by consensus but by individuals.
Playing to people's fears is a sign of weakness and lack of leadership.
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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #49)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:23 PM
hill2016 (1,772 posts)
50. but in aggregate
the highest % of people rank terrorism as their number one concern.
That does mean something. |
Response to hill2016 (Reply #50)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:48 PM
Tierra_y_Libertad (50,414 posts)
56. It means that Americans are easily frightened by politicians and media.
It's certainly nothing new. Americans, including some politicians, were stampeded into wars by those means. See Vietnam and Iraq for good examples.
Are some politicians seeking votes by promising them safety from the current bogeyman? Obviously. Does that mean that people will elect the scare-mongers to office? Possibly. Are some of us going to refuse to buy into it. Absolutely. |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:25 PM
arcane1 (38,613 posts)
51. "Mission Accomplished: distract, via the media, from other more pressing issues"
Congratulations!
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:28 PM
upaloopa (11,417 posts)
53. Bernie has been saying the same thing for
40 years and ISIS hasn't been around that long so of course he doesn't have anything to say about them.
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:32 PM
deathrind (1,786 posts)
54. Lol
"There were more than 316,000 firearm deaths between 2004 and 2013, compared to 313 terrorism deaths (no, that's not missing any zeros)"
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/deaths-from-gun-violence-vs-terrorism-in-one-chart-20151002#ixzz3u2Riy3DZ |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:33 PM
firebrand80 (2,760 posts)
55. If you'll notice, the same folks that know what people "should" be concerned about
are the ones that wonder why people vote against "their interests."
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 07:12 PM
ecstatic (30,587 posts)
57. Terrorism isn't among my top 500 concerns. Guns & cops
worry me the most, as far as personal "fears." I feel anxiety everytime I'm near a cop.
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Response to ecstatic (Reply #57)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:36 PM
artislife (9,497 posts)
64. Me, too!
And I am pretty light brown.
When I pass a car going slower than the speed limit and I see a PoC, I let go of any annoyance and wish them safe travels. |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 07:24 PM
Kalidurga (14,177 posts)
58. The privilege must be nice.
A lot of people struggle just to pay the rent and buy food. They are far too busy to worry about things like terrorists when they wonder if this trip is the last one their car will make and if they have enough money in the bank to pay for that prescription they just got for their asthmatic child.
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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #58)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:36 PM
artislife (9,497 posts)
65. Nod in agreement. nt
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:16 PM
Lancero (2,724 posts)
60. Remember back when...
Hillary supporters attacked Bernie for 'ignoring' the most pressing concern of the day - You know, the fact that police are getting off on murdering AA citizens?
Oh how do the times change, with Hillary supporters now claiming that "Sorry AA community, you're no longer our pressing concern". Personally, I'm interested in a racial breakdown of people polled for that. Somehow I get the feeling that the bulk of those polled were whites. That said, given how many more people answered that they'd trust Trump to deal with terrorism issues, over Hillary, points to the majority of people polled being Conservatives - Who have made it quite apparent that they give less then a shit about anyone who isn't born white. Still though, the poll doesn't actually say that people consider it the most pressing concern - That's your own slant on it. It's actually asking if they think we could be the victim of another terrorist attack - Given recent events, no suprise - and their own personal feelings as to ISIS and other potental terrorist threats. No where does it ask if they consider it the most important issue, |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:40 PM
AgingAmerican (12,958 posts)
66. Trump ßupporters
You are supporting Donald Trumps positions now?
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 09:01 PM
jfern (5,204 posts)
67. 200,000 Americans die every year from air pollution
Lets focus on the real issues, not the issues promoted by the military industrial complex.
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