Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:14 PM
HerbChestnut (3,649 posts)
Bernie stands up for AA communities, gets criticized for it (video)
This can't be posted enough. Bernie takes a day to work with the AA community, but because it's not about ISIS he gets criticized. He has a great response toward the end of the video to the reporter that asked about ISIS (10:55ish), but the whole video is more important than just that one moment.
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HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | OP |
Cheese Sandwich | Dec 2015 | #1 | |
HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | #3 | |
Cheese Sandwich | Dec 2015 | #5 | |
Autumn | Dec 2015 | #7 | |
Cheese Sandwich | Dec 2015 | #12 | |
Rosa Luxemburg | Dec 2015 | #73 | |
ljm2002 | Dec 2015 | #68 | |
99th_Monkey | Dec 2015 | #2 | |
Juicy_Bellows | Dec 2015 | #4 | |
Cali_Democrat | Dec 2015 | #8 | |
HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | #10 | |
VanillaRhapsody | Dec 2015 | #15 | |
HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | #16 | |
VanillaRhapsody | Dec 2015 | #22 | |
HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | #24 | |
Dawgs | Dec 2015 | #11 | |
Juicy_Bellows | Dec 2015 | #13 | |
Scootaloo | Dec 2015 | #34 | |
jeff47 | Dec 2015 | #37 | |
Ed Suspicious | Dec 2015 | #65 | |
Juicy_Bellows | Dec 2015 | #93 | |
winter is coming | Dec 2015 | #6 | |
Cheese Sandwich | Dec 2015 | #14 | |
Snotcicles | Dec 2015 | #33 | |
daleanime | Dec 2015 | #57 | |
MrMickeysMom | Dec 2015 | #77 | |
Doctor_J | Dec 2015 | #9 | |
JaneyVee | Dec 2015 | #30 | |
stillwaiting | Dec 2015 | #109 | |
upaloopa | Dec 2015 | #17 | |
HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | #19 | |
upaloopa | Dec 2015 | #35 | |
HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | #36 | |
upaloopa | Dec 2015 | #49 | |
HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | #50 | |
cascadiance | Dec 2015 | #59 | |
upaloopa | Dec 2015 | #60 | |
cascadiance | Dec 2015 | #62 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #18 | |
HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | #20 | |
VanillaRhapsody | Dec 2015 | #23 | |
HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | #25 | |
VanillaRhapsody | Dec 2015 | #26 | |
HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | #27 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #28 | |
HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | #32 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #39 | |
HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | #42 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #44 | |
HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | #47 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #48 | |
HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | #54 | |
Fawke Em | Dec 2015 | #66 | |
ljm2002 | Dec 2015 | #70 | |
ljm2002 | Dec 2015 | #69 | |
darkangel218 | Dec 2015 | #90 | |
bvar22 | Dec 2015 | #114 | |
nc4bo | Dec 2015 | #21 | |
seabeyond | Dec 2015 | #29 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #41 | |
ljm2002 | Dec 2015 | #71 | |
seabeyond | Dec 2015 | #74 | |
ljm2002 | Dec 2015 | #75 | |
seabeyond | Dec 2015 | #80 | |
ljm2002 | Dec 2015 | #95 | |
seabeyond | Dec 2015 | #99 | |
ljm2002 | Dec 2015 | #102 | |
JaneyVee | Dec 2015 | #31 | |
Armstead | Dec 2015 | #40 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #43 | |
jeff47 | Dec 2015 | #45 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #51 | |
jeff47 | Dec 2015 | #52 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #53 | |
jeff47 | Dec 2015 | #55 | |
Fawke Em | Dec 2015 | #67 | |
jeff47 | Dec 2015 | #76 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #81 | |
jeff47 | Dec 2015 | #84 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #86 | |
jeff47 | Dec 2015 | #88 | |
Gore1FL | Dec 2015 | #110 | |
HerbChestnut | Dec 2015 | #82 | |
morningfog | Dec 2015 | #78 | |
jeff47 | Dec 2015 | #85 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #87 | |
jeff47 | Dec 2015 | #89 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #91 | |
jeff47 | Dec 2015 | #92 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #97 | |
jeff47 | Dec 2015 | #98 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #100 | |
jeff47 | Dec 2015 | #101 | |
morningfog | Dec 2015 | #108 | |
cui bono | Dec 2015 | #112 | |
cui bono | Dec 2015 | #113 | |
morningfog | Dec 2015 | #94 | |
MaggieD | Dec 2015 | #96 | |
morningfog | Dec 2015 | #107 | |
Armstead | Dec 2015 | #46 | |
ljm2002 | Dec 2015 | #72 | |
TIME TO PANIC | Dec 2015 | #38 | |
WillyT | Dec 2015 | #56 | |
aspirant | Dec 2015 | #58 | |
Kalidurga | Dec 2015 | #61 | |
CharlotteVale | Dec 2015 | #63 | |
Broward | Dec 2015 | #64 | |
Bread and Circus | Dec 2015 | #79 | |
azmom | Dec 2015 | #83 | |
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:15 PM
Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)
1. This is they video they don't want you to see
This event today is the reason why the Clinton MSM spin machine is working overtime right now.
Repeating over and over again: Bernie can't connect with black people, "struggling mightily", instead of showing what really went down. |
Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #1)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:19 PM
HerbChestnut (3,649 posts)
3. No kidding
If this weren't an election season people would be praising Bernie for what he did today. Anything for a victory, right?
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #3)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:22 PM
Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)
5. These issues deserve focus. Bernie stands up for working class people
That's what we need. He was right to answer the way he did.
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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #5)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:25 PM
Autumn (41,437 posts)
7. And gets soundly trashed by democrats for doing it
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Response to Autumn (Reply #7)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:29 PM
Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)
12. Someone spun this as: Sanders stormed off stage and escaped in a black van
Something like that. No you can't make it up.
The media has worse than useless. They prop up the fascist Trump and bury the progressive Sanders. And that's coming even from the so-called liberal media like MSNBC. It's so bad. |
Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #5)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:51 PM
Rosa Luxemburg (28,627 posts)
73. CNNClinton wanted to ruin it
Hillary's campaign gets all nervous when Berns goes near 'her' African American vote
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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #1)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:30 PM
ljm2002 (10,751 posts)
68. Nailed it. n/t
Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:17 PM
99th_Monkey (19,326 posts)
2. Bernie won't be badgered, stays on message. AA's say thank you. GO Bernie!!! n/t
Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:20 PM
Juicy_Bellows (2,427 posts)
4. Damned if he does damned if he doesn't.
Spin cycle in full effect.
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Response to Juicy_Bellows (Reply #4)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:26 PM
Cali_Democrat (30,439 posts)
8. Running for President is difficult and being President is even more difficult
Bernie is demonstrating that he's not up to the job.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #8)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:28 PM
HerbChestnut (3,649 posts)
10. On the contrary.
Bernie showed why he's the one for the job. He's not willing to let people's needs be ignored in the face of tragedy and fear. That is the mark of a real leader.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #10)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:37 PM
VanillaRhapsody (21,115 posts)
15. but not a multitasker!
Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #15)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:38 PM
HerbChestnut (3,649 posts)
16. Actually, dealing with multiple issues at once, like what he's doing...
Is the definition of a multitasker.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #16)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:50 PM
VanillaRhapsody (21,115 posts)
22. Not if that includes foreign policy apparently...
Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #22)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:53 PM
HerbChestnut (3,649 posts)
24. He's talked about ISIS and foreign policy on multiple occassions recently and will continue to do so
Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #8)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:29 PM
Dawgs (14,755 posts)
11. Based on what? Your opinion?
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #8)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:33 PM
Juicy_Bellows (2,427 posts)
13. I think he is more than capable.
I also believe this shows us exactly why.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #8)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:06 PM
Scootaloo (25,699 posts)
34. "Let's stay on topic" = not up to the job.
Fascinating.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #8)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:14 PM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
37. "Like with a cloth?" (nt)
Response to Juicy_Bellows (Reply #4)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 07:08 PM
Ed Suspicious (8,879 posts)
65. I bet Bernie converted some voters in Baltimore today.
I'd bet money on that. The people at Bernie's side looked pleased. They applauded his tenacity and focus on the issues that are important to those people in that Baltimore community. I hope the msm keeps this up. People see through it. They really do.
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Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #65)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:58 PM
Juicy_Bellows (2,427 posts)
93. I hope you're right.
Go Bernie!
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:24 PM
winter is coming (11,785 posts)
6. "We don't have permanent friends, we have permanent interests."
Something that many politicians would do well to remember.
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Response to winter is coming (Reply #6)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:36 PM
Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)
14. Great quote
Surely something we should all keep in mind.
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Response to winter is coming (Reply #6)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:06 PM
Snotcicles (9,089 posts)
33. That guy nailed it. Friends come and go. nt
Response to winter is coming (Reply #6)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:49 PM
daleanime (17,796 posts)
57. Amen.....
Response to winter is coming (Reply #6)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:17 PM
MrMickeysMom (20,453 posts)
77. + E9
Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:26 PM
Doctor_J (36,392 posts)
9. big media loves Mrs Clinton.
The media moguls, talking heads, and investors will stay rich and continue their monopoly if she or a republican gets elected
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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #9)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:01 PM
JaneyVee (19,877 posts)
30. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
You mean both the liberal and conservative media that has been trashing her for decades?
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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #9)
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:35 AM
stillwaiting (3,795 posts)
109. They will stay rich even if Bernie becomes President.
They MIGHT not expand their wealth as aggressively as they have been able to over the past 3 to 4 decades at the expense of everyone else. Maybe. If a progressive movement can be built out of electing Bernie, and it is so worth trying very, very hard to do that.
But, in fighting for Clinton, they are trying to maintain the status quo of the past 3 to 4 decades. Accelerated income and wealth disparity with all new income and wealth going to a very elite and privileged class (with none of it going to those who desperately need it right now). It's simply unconscionable. They are assholes every one to fight for that in light of where we are today as a nation. |
Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:39 PM
upaloopa (11,417 posts)
17. No Bernie did not get criticized for standing
up for the AA community.
And what happened was not the fault of Hillary's campaign Own your candidate! Take responcibility |
Response to upaloopa (Reply #17)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:45 PM
HerbChestnut (3,649 posts)
19. For what? He did nothing wrong.
That's the point. Watch the video.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #19)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:08 PM
upaloopa (11,417 posts)
35. I never said he did anything wrong
The OP is blaming Hillary and the media
Bernie chose to do what he did. Actions have consequences. The consequences of his actions you need to own and not blame anyone else. I saw the video and I am not attacking Bernie |
Response to upaloopa (Reply #35)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:14 PM
HerbChestnut (3,649 posts)
36. Where in my OP did I mention Hillary or the media?
In my opinion, Bernie has nothing to apologize for. In fact, those who are criticizing him for whatever they think he did wrong today are the ones who should apologize. No candidate should ever be sorry about standing up for the rights and needs of a community.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #36)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:33 PM
upaloopa (11,417 posts)
49. I must be seeing things
I thought I read that it was Hillary's media attacking Bernie for standing for the AA community.
My apologies |
Response to upaloopa (Reply #35)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:37 PM
cascadiance (19,537 posts)
59. The so-called "consequences" of this speech is that it shows why he IS the choice for president!
If those are the "consequences" of this speech, then damn yes, he and I will own that.
If there are other "consequences" that you don't explain here, then why don't you attempt to do so, and why there is anything "negative" about what he said in this speech that the connotation of "consequences" implies, but does NOT lay out the way you said it here. |
Response to cascadiance (Reply #59)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:41 PM
upaloopa (11,417 posts)
60. The consequences are the very fact that we
and the press are talking about his not wanting to talk about ISIS.
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Response to upaloopa (Reply #60)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:48 PM
cascadiance (19,537 posts)
62. Oh the way that Hillary avoids talking about SO MANY THINGS like TPP, H-1B, etc.
that affect us more directly as American workers too!
Avoider? That would be Hillary Clinton! Bernie Sanders was trying to stay on topic in this speech on AA topics, the same way he was trying to stay on topic on immigration issues at NetRoots and on Social Security, etc. in Seattle. If the CORPORATE media who have their own vested interests had their way, they'd distract him with a 100 different issues every speech he gave to not allow him to thoroughly address any topic of interest to the American public. He DOES talk about ISIS in other contexts. A LOT better than Hillary is on H-1B visas for example where she hasn't talked about that issue for EIGHT F'ING YEARS!! |
Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:41 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
18. He did not get criticized for "standing up for the AA community"
What a load of baloney.
He demonstrated that he cannot answer questions about FP, so don't dare ask him or he will have a temper tantrum. That could not be more clear. |
Response to MaggieD (Reply #18)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:46 PM
HerbChestnut (3,649 posts)
20. Not true at all, Maggie.
Watch the video and you'll understand where us Bernie supporters are coming from.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #20)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:52 PM
VanillaRhapsody (21,115 posts)
23. we know....where you are "coming from"
Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #23)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:53 PM
HerbChestnut (3,649 posts)
25. Did you watch the video?
Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #25)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:56 PM
VanillaRhapsody (21,115 posts)
26. How does that change anything about "where you are coming from"?
Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #26)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:57 PM
HerbChestnut (3,649 posts)
27. Because it shows the whole situation unfolding and the context for what happened
Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #25)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:00 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
28. Yes, but he STILL isn't being criticized "for standing up for the AA community"
That's just baloney. He is being criticized for his tantrum about FP questions. And sadly, because of that he has taken all the focus off the AA community due to his tantrum.
That's generally why pols don't permit themselves to have public tantrums. |
Response to MaggieD (Reply #28)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:05 PM
HerbChestnut (3,649 posts)
32. No, that's *exactly* what he's being criticized for because that's what he did
The subject matter of the reporter's question has nothing to do with it. The fact is, the reporter was trying to change the subject away from the AA community, and Bernie was not having any of it. The media talks about ISIS all day long and they have been for a month. Bernie has talked about ISIS numerous times on multiple formats. Today was supposed to be a day for the AA community, and Bernie wanted to make sure it stayed that way.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #32)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:20 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
39. They FORCED Bernie to have a temper tantrum?
I have news for you, the press doesn't just ask presidents the questions they want asked. How naïve to think that is how it works. No one forced Bernie to have a temper tantrum, and now the story is about that. Because of Bernie. No one else.
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Response to MaggieD (Reply #39)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:23 PM
HerbChestnut (3,649 posts)
42. He's passionate, what else is there to say?
The guy doesn't like media games and he's not afraid to express it. I don't blame him at all.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #42)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:26 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
44. "Prone to tantrums" is not a characteristic people want in a President
Hate to break it to you.
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Response to MaggieD (Reply #44)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:29 PM
HerbChestnut (3,649 posts)
47. The way Bernie reacted could hardly be described as a "tantrum"
Tantrums are something 2 year olds go through when they don't get what they want. Bernie was forceful, sure, but hardly out of line. If you haven't watched the video already I suggest you do.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #47)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:32 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
48. Sure looked like one to me
And it looked enough like one that many news articles were written about it. So I think you may have blinders on for this one.
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Response to MaggieD (Reply #48)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:41 PM
HerbChestnut (3,649 posts)
54. Considering that I actually saw what those stores are talking about
I'd say that my eyes are wide open.
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Response to MaggieD (Reply #39)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 07:23 PM
Fawke Em (11,366 posts)
66. He didn't have a temper tantrum.
I have a young daughter. Trust me, I know what a temper tantrum is and pointing out to the media that the people there didn't come to talk about ISIS before waving and walking away is NOT a temper tantrum.
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Response to MaggieD (Reply #39)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:34 PM
ljm2002 (10,751 posts)
70. Bernie did not have a temper tantrum...
...and yet you persist in spreading that lie.
Says more about you than it does about Bernie, that's for sure. |
Response to MaggieD (Reply #18)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:33 PM
ljm2002 (10,751 posts)
69. There was no temper tantrum...
...and all of you who keep saying there was, just look silly. And a little desperate.
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Response to ljm2002 (Reply #69)
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:16 PM
bvar22 (39,909 posts)
114. ....more than look a "little" desperate.
They look Foaming at the Mouth Desperate.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:46 PM
nc4bo (17,651 posts)
21. Thanks for posting this video. nt
Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:00 PM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
29. Media doesn't seem to cotton to being told what to do. He put up a big red flag. Anyone would face
The same thing if they did what Bernie did.
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Response to seabeyond (Reply #29)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:22 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
41. Exactly. Why do Bernie supporters hate a free press?
This isn't Russia for gawd's sake.
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Response to seabeyond (Reply #29)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:36 PM
ljm2002 (10,751 posts)
71. Yes, how dare his campaign...
...honor the request of the pastors they were meeting with, to ask the press not to ask questions about ISIS at this particular meeting.
So which candidate is it, again, who respects the black community more? Because it sure looks like the Clinton supporters here would rather his campaign ignored the priorities of his hosts. |
Response to ljm2002 (Reply #71)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:53 PM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
74. Quit blaming everyone else. Sanders did it, with lack of something. He demanded.
It was a stupid demand to make. It was a given media was just flagged to be sure to speak up. It was a poor decision on his part drawing a line for the media. In business it would be a fail. As a parent? You would be a fool to try that with the kid. Sanders needed to be smarter handling media. That would also be a given with world leaders. If this is an example of Sanders ability to lead, it was a fail.
It isn't everyone else's fault. |
Response to seabeyond (Reply #74)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:00 PM
ljm2002 (10,751 posts)
75. See, here's the thing...
...I personally saw the video, first the clip at the end when the ISIS question came up, and then the whole thing. And I saw nothing but goodness from Bernie in that video. So I don't think it hurts him at all. Therefore, I am not blaming "the work" (whatever that means), nor am I blaming his press manager or the ministers who asked that his campaign make that request to the press. I think it worked out pretty well for Bernie.
My complaint is with all the spin-meisters here at DU and elsewhere, who are misrepresenting the event (He threw a tantrum, he stormed out, etc...) and who are trying to cast it as a negative for him. This is especially ironic, since he was there to talk about issues that disproportionately affect the AA community, and the Hillary supporters have been so vocal over the last few months, claiming that Bernie has no connection with the black community. Now, when he tries (successfully) to keep focus on their issues, all of the sudden that is the absolute worst move he could have made. Y'all can't have it both ways. Your attempts to spin this are laughable. |
Response to ljm2002 (Reply #75)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:22 PM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
80. Who started the OP griping about Sanders being picked on? That is what is being addressed. nt
Response to seabeyond (Reply #80)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:09 PM
ljm2002 (10,751 posts)
95. Ah, I see the problem now...
...you are confused. See, I am not the OP. I was responding to a specific post of yours. And oddly enough, I kind of expected that if you were responding to ME, then you would be responding to MY points. It's a simple enough concept.
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Response to ljm2002 (Reply #95)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:18 PM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
99. You implied a falsehood. I corrected you.
Response to seabeyond (Reply #99)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:23 PM
ljm2002 (10,751 posts)
102. What falsehood?
Here is the entirety of my post that you were responding to:
Yes, how dare his campaign...
...honor the request of the pastors they were meeting with, to ask the press not to ask questions about ISIS at this particular meeting. So which candidate is it, again, who respects the black community more? Because it sure looks like the Clinton supporters here would rather his campaign ignored the priorities of his hosts. Please point out the falsehood, either direct or implied. Thanks. |
Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:03 PM
JaneyVee (19,877 posts)
31. LOL. Yeah, he's getting criticized for "standing up for the AA community".
That is an actual thought you had?
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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #31)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:21 PM
Armstead (47,803 posts)
40. He's getting criticized for insisting that it not be ignored, yes
The press loves to fixate ion the sensational story of the day or week or month, and ignore everything else. And most poluituicians go along like good little poodles.
Suddenly it's all about fighting terror. As if suddenly AA's and the problems of poverty no longer exist. "That was sooooo last week." And Berinie is saying NO to that mentality. |
Response to Armstead (Reply #40)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:24 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
43. So if Hillary had a tantrum because they asked about emails
You would say that is fine, and justify her tantrum? LOL! Hell no, his supporters would have 45 threads going about it.
How naïve to think a candidate can dictate the presses questions. |
Response to MaggieD (Reply #43)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:28 PM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
45. "Like with a cloth?" (nt)
Response to jeff47 (Reply #45)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:35 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
51. You keep posting that, but I have zero idea what you're trying to say
You've posted it in response to me in several threads. It means nothing to me (in case you think it does).
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Response to MaggieD (Reply #51)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:37 PM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
52. Can't remember your own candidate's statements?
How about "Her speech will be her interview"? Remember that one?
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Response to jeff47 (Reply #52)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:38 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
53. Huh?
No, I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Response to jeff47 (Reply #55)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 07:29 PM
Fawke Em (11,366 posts)
67. You make me smile, Jeff.
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Response to jeff47 (Reply #55)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:24 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
81. Oh, more right wing web sites
I got it now. LOL! But I thought you guys were against using right wing web sites? Wasn't it just Saturday that you all had a meltdown over it?
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Response to MaggieD (Reply #81)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:30 PM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
84. Google is a right-wing web site now?
Google.
Seriously. Google. A search engine. You're claiming it's a right-wing website. Are you trying to do some sort of Third-Way Manny character or something? You can't possibly be this poorly informed. |
Response to jeff47 (Reply #84)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:32 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
86. No, but all the links that come up are
So that means it's a right wing talking point, wouldn't you agree?
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Response to MaggieD (Reply #86)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:38 PM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
88. So yes, you are sticking with your claim that Google is a right-wing website.
![]() So...aaaallllllll the way to the second link on the first search is YouTube. Is that a right-wing web site now? How 'bout ABC news. They're also on the first page of the first search. They're a right-wing web site now? And we better warn all the people at the Daily Kos that they're now on a right-wing web site. After all, it's on the first page of the second search. |
Response to MaggieD (Reply #86)
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 02:22 PM
Gore1FL (19,523 posts)
110. That's not how google works, actually. n/t
Response to MaggieD (Reply #53)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:20 PM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
78. Not a surprise. A Bernie basher, not a Hillary supporter.
Response to morningfog (Reply #78)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:31 PM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
85. Keeping track of what your chosen candidate has said is so hard!
Especially with the constantly-changing positions!
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Response to jeff47 (Reply #85)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:35 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
87. I think you're lashing out because Bernie got berned today
That seems to be going around today.
You should try and remember, neither Clinton or her supporters force him to make gaffes and showcase his reluctance to talk about certain issues. That's all on Bernie. He's just not a good campaigner because this is the first time he has been out of the Vermont bubble. Please stop going off on Clinton when the issue has nothing to do with her. It just looks bitter. |
Response to MaggieD (Reply #87)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:39 PM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
89. And I don't think I'm going to listen much to someone who claims Google is a right-wing website.
Nor has even the faintest clue about what the candidate she is so devoted to said.
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Response to jeff47 (Reply #89)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:46 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
91. Click your own link - National Review, Washington Times
It shows that you have adopted a smear on her that is all the rage on right wing web sites. Are you not embarrassed by that at all?
I think you should be. |
Response to MaggieD (Reply #91)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:51 PM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
92. ABC news, CNN, BBC, WaPo, TPM, DKos....
I'm just wondering how long it will be before you actually read what Clinton said.
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Response to jeff47 (Reply #92)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:14 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
97. I know it's a right wing talking point thanks to you
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Response to MaggieD (Reply #97)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:17 PM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
98. Clinton said a right-wing smear about herself?!
One's a direct quote from Clinton, one's a direct quote from Clinton's campaign.
Entertainingly, you posted about both quotes at the time each one was said. |
Response to jeff47 (Reply #98)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:20 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
100. Whatever, dude
No one cares but you and some right wing media outlets. I guess you think it's some devastating gotcha, but I can't imagine why.
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Response to MaggieD (Reply #100)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:22 PM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
101. Nah, I'm entertained at just how little you know about your own candidate.
And what insane things you'll say to deflect.
Google and YouTube are now right-wing sources. ![]() |
Response to jeff47 (Reply #101)
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:00 AM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
108. They hate Bernie and liberals. They don't care about Hillary.
They are here for one reason and it is not to support Hillary.
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Response to jeff47 (Reply #98)
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:34 PM
cui bono (19,926 posts)
112. Haha...
You have the patience of a saint.
When they call their own candidate's words right wing talking points, well then I might have to start believing them! ![]() . |
Response to MaggieD (Reply #97)
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:35 PM
cui bono (19,926 posts)
113. So Hillary's words are a right wing talking point?
Good to know. Thanks!
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Response to MaggieD (Reply #91)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:07 PM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
94. Aren't you the one who posted a right wing source?
And then backtracked claiming you were just trolling?
You got no credibility. |
Response to morningfog (Reply #94)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:13 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
96. Yeah, with a mainstream source to back it up
I am just so sick of these right wing links here that I thought it would be good to get you all on record as having a fit about them when used with Bernie.
I had to burn a hide because you all got so pissed at getting caught. But it was totally worth it. ![]() Here it is: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251876329 |
Response to MaggieD (Reply #96)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 11:58 PM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
107. Right. When you used a right wing source, argue repeatedly
it was okay because it was factual. Then you finally found an alternative source, after searching to cover your ass.
Then, to save what face you have left, you claimed you were just trolling the board. It was all a big set-up, well planned trolling effort. Your face saving was to admit to being a disruptor on this board. Yeah, I remember that thread. |
Response to MaggieD (Reply #43)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:29 PM
Armstead (47,803 posts)
46. I won't put you on my ignore list, but I'm going to ignore you
"tantrum"???!?
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Response to MaggieD (Reply #43)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:37 PM
ljm2002 (10,751 posts)
72. No one had a tantrum...
...you are, quite simply, lying.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:18 PM
TIME TO PANIC (1,894 posts)
38. ISIS is not our greatest threat.
People in the real world will appreciate his response.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:42 PM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
56. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:14 PM
aspirant (3,533 posts)
58. Do we remember Hills "tantrum"
when she wouldn't listen to BLM protesters and escorted them out?
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:42 PM
Kalidurga (14,177 posts)
61. Lets make it viral
FB'd and Tweeted the original video.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:56 PM
CharlotteVale (2,717 posts)
63. It's the latest swiftboating meme. You can set your watch by them.
Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 07:00 PM
Broward (1,976 posts)
64. Bernie did a great job. We need more like him and less like Hillary.
Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:21 PM
Bread and Circus (9,454 posts)
79. That's a pretty awesome video to me, especially the end... only thing he missed...
Was he forgot to drop the mic at the end.
But damn. |
Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:26 PM
azmom (5,208 posts)
83. Bernie is awesome. This is why we love him.
The media has got to get it's shit together. They are terrorizing the populace.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:44 PM
malokvale77 (4,879 posts)
103. Fantastic...
Bernie was absolutely perfect the way he handled the press here. I think he gained quite a bit of support because of this.
The H supporters know it and that's why they're in such a tizzy. |
Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:56 PM
Agony (2,605 posts)
104. Disadvantaged PEOPLE and communities matter to Senator Bernie Sanders! ...Fuck all that other noise.
He positively exudes leadership!
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 11:14 PM
gordyfl (598 posts)
105. Bernie Proves (again) why He is the Right Candidate for 2016.
I watched it. When the ISIS question came up (at the 11 minute mark) Bernie gave the answer that I would like to hear from my candidate.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:44 PM
NurseJackie (42,862 posts)
111. Not *for* doing it. But for something else that happened *while* doing it.
There's a difference. (But, you knew that already.)
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