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(2,574 posts)
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 07:22 PM Nov 2015

On his Tour de Victime/Mendace Charles Koch just challenged Bernie to a debate!

There it was front page Yahoo interview today, Koch throwing down the gauntlet, calling Bernie and others "liars" who are "afraid" to debate the Koch ideology and machine. It's a flat out challenge and open invitation to draw the hermetically protected Koch into an actual debate with a genuine fact based liberal opponent.

Charles Koch will look like the self-promoting coward he is if he tries to weasel out of this debate into which he just slurred Bernie and liberals. Bernie should loudly and repeatedly announce that he accepts Koch's challenge and demand this debate.

I don't think this violates DNC rules on candidates debates. But if it does, then have another excellent liberal, coherent messenger like Liz Warren or Sherrod Brown follow through with this opportunity to get a Koch into an actual debate of ideas (instead of the typically lying junk Charles' tour is currently peddling through the MSM.)

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(1,733 posts)
2. I would clear my calendar and stock up on Beer and popcorn if this came to pass
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 07:44 PM
Nov 2015

You could not find better entertainment anywhere!


(45,251 posts)
4. The Koch hubris to think a candidate for POTUS should debate a Koch, just because he's rich!
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 08:11 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie Sanders, 2016. Giving billionaire Libertarians a bad name!

Now, they think they're entitled to the benefit of the Equal Time doctrine. Go, Bernie!


(2,760 posts)
6. Taking this Debate would not be a smart move
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 08:38 PM
Nov 2015

He's running for President. No reason to get sidetracked and bring himself down to that level.



(13,877 posts)
8. Not Bernie, but a well known Progressive. They have been called out
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 08:52 PM
Nov 2015

by name and should be able to buy the airtime for a debate. If for no other reason than to tell us the improper pronunciation of there name.

We should take him up on it ... have both of them. Who would be up to the task?


(11,502 posts)
10. Do you have a link
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 09:36 PM
Nov 2015

All I could find was him saying people who disagree with him are afraid to debate, but I found no mention at all of Bernie being challenged to such a debate, nor any of the other candidates.


(2,574 posts)
11. Yahoo finance, "C.Koch: My body is full of harpoons"
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 11:09 PM
Nov 2015

I read the summary of the interview under the tape. Sorry after enduring the three part Morning Joe tongue bath of this guy, I now just skip to the summaries for blood pressure reasons.
Now I watched the tape & you're right. Koch doesn't outright name Bernie but slurs all today's Liberals,"who've become people who want government to control people's lives" Later in the interview he said "those who want to control people's lives are apparently afraid to debate."

I still think those are fighting words and translate into a challenge to debate with a real Roosevelt liberal. It doesn't need to be Bernie,
just a clear speaking representative of Roosevelt Dem principles, the ideology that Koch's Father unilaterally opposed as a founder of the Birch Soc & of the Liberals whom today his sons claim are "people who want government to control people's lives."

When Koch claims that Liberals are "afraid to debate", it seems that Liberals (and their most Koch smeared reps) should seize the right to demand and get that debate. And that debate should be with the Koch slurer/accuser/liar in chief not with one of a Koch
puppet propagandists.


(23,730 posts)
12. they make less excuses than Shkreli, they think they got their politics from thei polymer-chemistry
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:38 AM
Nov 2015

knowledge, and David's reaction to almost burning to death wasn't "I have to rethink my life" but "wow, you can't take it with you--so I'm gonna make sure nobody ELSE can, either!"

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