Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:46 PM
Amimnoch (4,558 posts)
So, what has Bernie accomplished that is worthy of so much adoration?
Senator Sanders is an INCREDIBLE orator, what has he actually done?
In all of his years in Congress only 3 bill's that he either sponsored, or co-sponsored has been made into law (none of which were particularly ground breaking or of any significant import). He's proven again and again that he's great at saying no, so I'll concede he'll be great at using the Veto power. Heck Hillary was just as successful as he was in only 8 years in Congress (not her greatest accomplishment either imho). However, Hillary had much success in the DOJ, first lady of Arkansas, FLOTUS, and Secretary of State. So, in short.. What has Bernie DONE that makes him worthy of my (or anybody's) vote??
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Amimnoch | Nov 2015 | OP |
JaneyVee | Nov 2015 | #1 | |
NCTraveler | Nov 2015 | #2 | |
Amimnoch | Nov 2015 | #3 | |
NCTraveler | Nov 2015 | #4 | |
1StrongBlackMan | Nov 2015 | #5 | |
Major Hogwash | Nov 2015 | #6 | |
Amimnoch | Nov 2015 | #8 | |
Major Hogwash | Nov 2015 | #13 | |
oasis | Nov 2015 | #32 | |
LiberalArkie | Nov 2015 | #7 | |
DCBob | Nov 2015 | #9 | |
Amimnoch | Nov 2015 | #11 | |
NurseJackie | Nov 2015 | #18 | |
Dawgs | Nov 2015 | #22 | |
NurseJackie | Nov 2015 | #26 | |
Dawgs | Nov 2015 | #27 | |
99th_Monkey | Nov 2015 | #10 | |
Amimnoch | Nov 2015 | #12 | |
99th_Monkey | Nov 2015 | #33 | |
Capt. Obvious | Nov 2015 | #14 | |
pinebox | Nov 2015 | #15 | |
LWolf | Nov 2015 | #16 | |
think | Nov 2015 | #17 | |
CoffeeCat | Nov 2015 | #19 | |
Dawgs | Nov 2015 | #25 | |
CoffeeCat | Nov 2015 | #30 | |
xynthee | Nov 2015 | #20 | |
Amimnoch | Nov 2015 | #23 | |
jeff47 | Nov 2015 | #21 | |
earthside | Nov 2015 | #24 | |
arcane1 | Nov 2015 | #28 | |
TheProgressive | Nov 2015 | #29 | |
zappaman | Nov 2015 | #31 | |
lumberjack_jeff | Nov 2015 | #34 | |
senz | May 2016 | #35 |
Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:48 PM
JaneyVee (19,877 posts)
1. And Hillary introduced more legislation in 8 years...
Than Bernie did in 25 years; 417-379
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Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:49 PM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
2. "Senator Sanders is an INCREDIBLE orator"
I kind of stopped there. The praise was nice though. lol.
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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #2)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:50 PM
Amimnoch (4,558 posts)
3. Ahh, so that's his crowning achievement. Gotcha.
Thank you.
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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #3)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:53 PM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
4. I have yet to see him perform at the speaking level you are giving him credit for.
I think this is actually the first time I have ever seen his oratory skills promoted as being anything above par.
I truly had never heard this. I don't think many will agree with you on it including his own supporters. He is kindly mocked for his oratory skills. See SNL. |
Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:53 PM
1StrongBlackMan (31,849 posts)
5. He voted correctly on (almost) every issue of interest to the left. n/t
Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:54 PM
Major Hogwash (17,656 posts)
6. Yes, Hillary got a road named after Tim Russert, and a post office named after some . .
. . . other guy she knew.
GOOD GOING, HILLARY!!!! Because naming post offices after YOUR friends is what being a Senator is all about!!! ![]() |
Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #6)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:56 PM
Amimnoch (4,558 posts)
8. Anything at all to say that's FOR your candidate?
Come on, surely you can give me SOMETHING that BERNIE did?
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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #8)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:03 PM
Major Hogwash (17,656 posts)
13. Bernie isn't Hillary, he didn't vote for the Iraq War.
He used his brains to decide not to vote for the Iraq War, instead of checking the balance in his banking account the way Hillary did before she voted for the Iraq War!!!!!
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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #13)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:29 PM
oasis (48,638 posts)
32. What's checking a bank account balance got to do with the IRW vote?
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Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:54 PM
LiberalArkie (14,679 posts)
7. What about S. 893 (113th): Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013
Plus naming 2 postoffices in VT.
I know HRC had 3 bills enacted during her term. And Bernie had 3 during his term so far. S. 3145 (110th): A bill to designate a portion of United States Route 20A, located in Orchard Park, New York, as the “Timothy J. Russert Highway”. S. 3613 (109th): A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 2951 New York Highway 43 in Averill Park, New York, as the “Major George Quamo Post Office Building”. S. 3613 (109th): A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 2951 New York Highway 43 in Averill Park, New York, as the “Major George Quamo Post Office Building”. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?sponsor=300022#current_status[]=28 But naming a highway after Tim Russert? |
Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:56 PM
DCBob (24,689 posts)
9. He connects with the anger many feel on the left.
I support Hillary but I get why many adore Bernie. They think he feels and understands their pain. I think Hillary does too... she just doesn't communicate it very well.
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Response to DCBob (Reply #9)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:00 PM
Amimnoch (4,558 posts)
11. I do get why as well. As I said he's an incredible orator.
I just need more than a good speech for my vote.
So far I've got 1 single really awesome achievement and that was S. 893 (113th): Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013 that LiberalArkie pointed out (one of the 3 successful bills of 25 years in Congress). |
Response to Amimnoch (Reply #11)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:08 PM
NurseJackie (42,862 posts)
18. I think he's an horrible orator.
His voice, his scowl and grimace, his finger-wagging, his anger, his posture, his leaning are all things that grate on my nerves.
I'm sure that many may find such things to be "genuine" or somehow "endearing" but I find them to be distracting and off-putting. |
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #18)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:29 PM
Dawgs (14,755 posts)
22. You think Hillary's better?
Have you ever seen her in person?
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Response to Dawgs (Reply #22)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:33 PM
NurseJackie (42,862 posts)
26. Yes, I do.
She's no Obama, but she's infinitely better than gruff Bernie.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #26)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:35 PM
Dawgs (14,755 posts)
27. Wow! You saw her in person and still feel that way? Okay.
It was just the opposite for me.
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Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:58 PM
99th_Monkey (19,326 posts)
10. There's a very detailed list, outlined in an OP 4 days ago. It totally answers your question.
Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #10)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:03 PM
Amimnoch (4,558 posts)
12. Thank you!!
I hadn't seen that one, and have been asking for a while now. Will take some time to really look at it. On a quick glance, he may be more worth reconsidering than I'd originally thought.
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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #12)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:41 PM
99th_Monkey (19,326 posts)
33. My pleasure. I just 'happened' onto it, just after seeing your OP
I think it's called synchronicity .. I love it when that happens.
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Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:03 PM
Capt. Obvious (9,002 posts)
14. Deja vu
Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:03 PM
pinebox (5,761 posts)
15. Bernie's done more than most and here's some highlights
~In 1992, Congress passes Sanders' first signed piece of legislation to create the National Program of Cancer Registries. All 50 states now run registries to help cancer researchers gain important insights.
~Voted against the Clinton-era North American Free Trade Agreement, which we now know sent millions of American jobs overseas. ~Sanders is one of only 67 votes against the discriminatory Defense of Marriage Act, which denied federal benefits to same-sex couples legally married. It took 17 years to overturn this Act. ~Standing up against the major pharmaceutical companies, Sanders becomes the first member of Congress to take seniors across the border to Canada to buy lower-cost prescription drugs. The congressman continues his bus trips to Canada with a group of breast cancer patients the following April. These women are able to purchase their medications in Canada for almost one-tenth the price charged in the States. ~Thanks to Sanders' efforts, IBM agreed to a $320 million legal settlement with some 130,000 IBM workers and retirees. ~About 10 years before the 2008 Wall Street crash spins the world economy into a massive recession, Sanders votes "no" on a bill to undo decades of financial regulations enacted after the Great Depression. The House passed the bill 362-57 over Sanders' objection. ~Sanders votes against the USA Patriot Act. "All of us want to protect the American people from terrorist attacks, but in a way that does not undermine basic freedoms," Sanders says at the time. ~Sanders votes against the Bush-Cheney war in Iraq. He warns at the time that an invasion could "result in anti-Americanism, instability and more terrorism." We now know that that war was one of the worst foreign policy decisions in our history. ~Sanders passes an amendment in the House to stop the government from obtaining library and book-buying records on Americans. ~Sanders defeats Vermont's richest man, Rich Tarrant, to be elected to the U.S. Senate. Sanders, running as an Independent, is endorsed by the Vermont Democratic Party and supported by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. ~Sanders' authored energy efficiency and conservation grant program passes into law. He later secures $3.2 billion in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 for the grant program. ~Thanks to Sanders' efforts, funding for the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program funding doubles, helping millions of low-income Americans heat their homes in winter. ~Sanders works with Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley to pass an amendment to an economic recovery bill preventing Wall Street banks that take taxpayer bailouts from replacing laid-off U.S. workers with exploited and poorly-paid foreign workers. ~Sanders passes language in the Affordable Care Act to allow states to apply for waivers to implement pilot health care systems by 2017. The legislation allows states to adopt more comprehensive systems to cover more people at lower costs. ~In 2010, President Barack Obama signs into law the Affordable Care Act with a major Sanders provision to expand federally qualified community health centers. Sanders secures $12.5 billion in funding for the program which now serves more than 25 million Americans. Another $1.5 billion from a Sanders provision went to the National Health Service Corps for scholarships and loan repayment for doctors and nurses who practice in underserved communities. ~Sanders works with Republican Congressman Ron Paul in the House to pass a measure as part of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street reform bill to audit the Federal Reserve, revealing how the independent agency gave $16 trillion in near zero-interest loans to big banks and businesses after the 2008 economic collapse. ~In 2012, he becomes Chairman of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee. ~Sanders, backed by seniors, women, veterans, labor unions and disabled Americans leads a successful effort to stop a "chained-CPI" proposal supported by Congressional Republicans and the Administration to cut Social Security and disabled veterans' benefits. ~Sanders introduces legislation to break up major Wall Street banks so large that the collapse of one could send the overall economy into a downward spiral. ~A bipartisan $16.5 billion veterans bill written by Sanders, Sen. John McCain and Rep. Jeff Miller is signed into law by President Barack Obama. ~In 2015, Sanders takes over as ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, using the platform to fight for his economic agenda for the American middle class. ~Sanders votes against the Keystone XL pipeline which would allow multinational corporation TransCanada to transport dirty tar sands oil from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico. ~Both the NAACP and the NHLA (National Hispanic Leadership Agenda) have given Sanders 100% voting scores during his tenure in the Senate. Earns a D- from the NRA. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/6/1428616/-Bernie-Sanders-What-the-Hell-Have-You-Done-for-Us-Lately |
Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:04 PM
LWolf (46,179 posts)
16. Adoration is the wrong word.
What has Sanders accomplished that makes him worthy of the enthusiastic support he is getting? That has, of coursed, been discussed right here. I'm sorry you missed it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251722160 http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251687842 And, of course, it's out there in other places, too. http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/6/1428616/-Bernie-Sanders-What-the-Hell-Have-You-Done-for-Us-Lately Happy reading! ![]() |
Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:07 PM
think (11,641 posts)
17. Sanders' ACA provision expanded the number of community health centers in the U.S.
Community Health Centers Expand |
Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:18 PM
CoffeeCat (24,411 posts)
19. I see someone is using Hillary's 2008 Democratic primary playbook!
This is EXACTLY what the Clinton camp tried to pull on Obama when he eroded Hillary's lead down to single digits in Iowa and NH!
Really? I can't take the deja vu. It's so blatant, I'm wondering if the Clinton camp may disrupt the space-time continuium! Look at the first two lines of this ill-conceived post; and let's substitute the Sanders references for Obama's name. "So what has OBAMA accomplished that is worthy of so much adoration?" "SENATOR OBAMA is an INCREDIBLE orator, what has he actually done?" Sound familiar? OMG...seriously. ![]() Are they for real? This is soooooo last primary season. It didn't work then, it won't work now. What is revealing is that this is the nonsensical talking points that emerge when Hillary knows she's in trouble in the first couple of states. I guess the latest CBS Iowa/NH Battleground poll really blew her mind. |
Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #19)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:31 PM
Dawgs (14,755 posts)
25. Incredible, isn't it. You would think they would be a lot more humble this time.
Maybe they're just taking on the personality of their leader.
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Response to Dawgs (Reply #25)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:22 PM
CoffeeCat (24,411 posts)
30. Maybe she needs to hire a new PR firm...
Seriously.
Enough with the old talking points. She's paying those people to come up with big, fresh ideas. Not recycle the old messaging strategy that gave her a third place in Iowa. Maybe the agency has interns working this part of the campaign. It's a mystery. |
Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:26 PM
xynthee (477 posts)
20. K & R for the helpful responses
This is a question we should always be happy to answer!!
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Response to xynthee (Reply #20)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:29 PM
Amimnoch (4,558 posts)
23. There are some really good, and thought provoking responses here.
I will admit, there's more to Bernie than I'd thought. I do like to learn (even when it makes me wrong about something or someone).
There's also a few of the typical obnoxious ones as well that made me not even want to consider Senator Sanders in the first place (not yours of course). Thank you. |
Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:28 PM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
21. Try expanding your search to include amendments.
The talking point is bills, but Sanders is known as "the king of amendments".
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Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:30 PM
earthside (6,960 posts)
24. Sounds like a recycled Hillary-GOP post from 7 years ago.
As you recall, that was the big rap on Barack Obama who had only been in the U.S. Senate for four years.
Oh, that Obama gave a great speech, but what had he ever done? And in the general election it was even worse -- compared to John McCain, Obama was only an inexperienced orator. Looking back in history, however, we can see Richard Nixon and George H. W. Bush who had tons and tons of experience and all kinds of 'accomplishments' ... we know how those presidencies turned out. |
Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:35 PM
arcane1 (38,613 posts)
28. The "He's a great orator but nothing else" thing was said about Obama too.
Why do you include Hillary's non-federal-government experience, but not Bernie's?
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Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:03 PM
TheProgressive (1,656 posts)
29. Sanders is honest, truthful, a progressive, a liberal... and
... a statesperson. A person of by and for the people...
This is a person you can trust. |
Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:25 PM
zappaman (20,576 posts)
31. He's not Hilary.
Which is more than enough for some.
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Response to Amimnoch (Original post)
Sun May 15, 2016, 06:16 AM
senz (11,945 posts)
35. It's never too late to lose one's ignorance, Amimnoch
Last edited Sun May 15, 2016, 06:46 AM - Edit history (1) Bernie Sanders’ Legislative Accomplishments: A Partial List
FACT: Bernie Sanders Got More Done in the Senate Than Hillary Clinton And for good measure: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511324268 Glad to be of help! ![]() |