2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo Bernie is putting off his speech on socialism.
What we have now are these:
Free college
Single payer health care
$15 minimum wage
Wealth redistribution
Breaking up of big banks
Full employment
Tax increases
I don't know the rest but suffice to say Bernie hasn't laid out plans to make any of that happen that can be analyzed by economists to let us know what we would be getting into.
If I said we need to be pragmatic about this I know I would be attacked since it happens every time.
To me that is the main reason Bernie will not win the nomination. The 25% to 30% will accept him at his word. The other 60% are pragmatic.
That's right.
think
(11,641 posts)So there would be no expectations to be dashed...
riversedge
(72,816 posts)But try again--put your holiday stocking out.
think
(11,641 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)I know he's capable of it, but he has chosen to stay tightly "on message."
But the thought of another restoration of the Clinton Monarchy makes me very depressed. If she manages to actually win, it will be four to eight years of basic inaction, polarization, gridlock, scandles (real or manufactured), bland arrogance and more of that crappy "What's good for Wall St and Corporate America is automatically good for you" centrist/conservative happy talk.
elleng
(135,627 posts)O'Malleys PLANS:
15 Goals to Rebuild the American Dream
https://martinomalley.com/category/15-goals/
Addiction treatment and prevention
https://martinomalley.com/policy/addiction-treatment-and-prevention/
Criminal Justice Reform
https://martinomalley.com/policy/criminal-justice/
Making College Debt Free for all Americans
https://martinomalley.com/policy/make-college-debt-free/
Holding Wall Street Accountable
https://14d2r744okfe40r1ug1oqm6y-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/OMalley-Wall-Street-Reform.pdf
Expanding Social Security
https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/expanding-social-security/
Homeland Security
https://martinomalley.com/vision/homeland-security/
Immigration
https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/immigration/
National Service
https://martinomalley.com/national-service/
Environment
https://martinomalley.com/climate/iowa/
https://martinomalley.com/climate/
https://martinomalley.com/climate/agenda/
Foreign Policy
https://martinomalley.com/policy/truman-national-security/
Gun Reform
https://martinomalley.com/policy/preventing-and-reducing-gun-violence/
Trade Policy
https://martinomalley.com/policy/trade-policy/
Campaign Finance Reform (Restoring our American Democracy)
https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/restoring-our-american-democracy/
Why We Need a Constitutional Amendment to Secure the Right to Vote:
https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/news/right-to-vote/
Veterans and Military Families
https://martinomalley.com/policy/veterans/
daybranch
(1,309 posts)and when we get rid of control of our government by billionaires, Bernie probably can implement many of them. But the operative phrase is when we get rid of control oif our government by billionaires, and only Bernie seems to be actively avoiding taking their money and calling them out. So O Malley, while he probably writes good plans will not be able to implement anything of significance until we get rid of billionaire control.
But again thanks for the plans. O Malley is a bright man and Bernie will certainly consider the plans when he is President.
daybranch
(1,309 posts)they want to afford. But here goes-Bernie has told you that the cost of Free College will be paid for by a speculation tax on Wall Street transactions. Secondly if we do a medicare for all, at the peoples choice like all of Bernie's positions, the funds made available (approximately 15 percent of the total paid for health care) is certainly sufficient to install Medicare for all. He also plans to reduce medicare and health care cost by negotiating with pharmaceutical companies which in itself will lower medicare costs by several percent more just as it has reduced cost of pharmaceuticals for the current Veteran's Administration. Our society already pays more under the current system than we would under a single payer Medicare for all where the government works for us not the medical insurance and pharmaceutical industry. The $15 minimum wage is paid by employers unless the employer is the government. The Obama administration already expects to fund this increase for federal employees and federal contractor employees. I am absolutely sure that wealth distribution by its very nature does not imply any costs to the Federal government except rewriting tax codes to eliminate loopholes and raise rates. So no real cost there.Cost of breaking up big banks, I see no cost here either. Full employment is through funding infrastructure repairs and improvements, goals which even republicans know increase employment. Economists agree that more education increases skills and increased skills increase employment. So adding this with support for infrastructure and the increased demand for goods and services made possible by the increase to a living wage of $15 should do the trick of full employment. Tax increases do not cost money to the federal government so I will not address it .
As for those who take Bernie at his word, he has always kept his word.
Pragmatic can be a name for giving in too easily too you know. Bernie has the same values I have and his message resonates because he and the people agree.
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Alfresco
(1,698 posts)I have been waiting for this since he first announced his "major speech" on CNN.