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Ann Romney seems nervous and tipsy: (Original Post) beac Aug 2012 OP
Yeah her delivery is not good EarlG Aug 2012 #1
It's the fake laugh Sky Masterson Aug 2012 #2
Cue Youtube video with split screen shots of Mitt and Ann laughing like hyenas davidpdx Aug 2012 #35
Yikes! procon Aug 2012 #3
I'm in platitude overload... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #4
"We ate pasta and tuna fish" beac Aug 2012 #6
I do not post much but... karmaqueen Aug 2012 #5
Phony Rich People trying to act normal Thrill Aug 2012 #7
Reverse Beverly Hillbillies. DearAbby Aug 2012 #54
Yep, we had a door on sawhorses & 5 boys in the house are noisy & then we got 6 houses & a patrice Aug 2012 #57
It's like a speech for prom queen. earthside Aug 2012 #8
People clapping, but not smiling sammytko Aug 2012 #9
Wow, the post-speech applause barely lasted long enough beac Aug 2012 #12
I'm watching on CSPAN and boy was it quick sammytko Aug 2012 #16
Lift us up? karmaqueen Aug 2012 #10
Something off about it Sugarcoated Aug 2012 #11
Her face looked sour and mean in between words. beac Aug 2012 #13
She's got that snobby thing goin on Sugarcoated Aug 2012 #17
Joy-Ann Reid on MSNBC with Matthews Sugarcoated Aug 2012 #34
That's it. The whole thing definitely felt ODD. Even the parts that were supposed to be emotional.nt patrice Aug 2012 #58
gawd CountAllVotes Aug 2012 #14
Having seen the devastation of MS, murray hill farm Aug 2012 #15
She clearly has had treatments unavailable to the average prole and possibly beac Aug 2012 #19
This is the point, she doesn't even realize she's a nasty hypocrite n/t flamingdem Aug 2012 #39
Yep. What difference does it make if you know what doctor to call if you can't pay one. nt patrice Aug 2012 #56
Not to mention very expensive "dressage therapy horses" bklyncowgirl Aug 2012 #43
Pres. Bartlet never used his MS as a political ploy. Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #27
I didn't watch, but sometimes MS symptoms pnwmom Aug 2012 #18
I know that, being a Mormon, she doesn't drink beac Aug 2012 #20
I have MS and this is true Mojorabbit Aug 2012 #31
Isn't stress one of the worst things Ineeda Aug 2012 #53
Witch Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2012 #21
Not Impressed at All mary195149 Aug 2012 #22
I doubt she drinks. emilyg Aug 2012 #23
She was probably nervous marlakay Aug 2012 #32
She admitted to being nervous. If emilyg Aug 2012 #38
Michelle Obama never seems nervous in front of large audiences Cali_Democrat Aug 2012 #40
Sounds like you don't emilyg Aug 2012 #47
Depends what kind of housewives Cali_Democrat Aug 2012 #48
She probably does not, being Mormon. (Though the Rmoneys cheat in other areas of their lives, so...) beac Aug 2012 #46
She kept saying how Mitt makes her laugh, but never gave any examples. SunSeeker Aug 2012 #24
I'm guessing she had a good laugh.. Cannikin Aug 2012 #25
OMG SunSeeker Aug 2012 #30
You women people are loved Blue Owl Aug 2012 #26
With the sound off, she seemed well rehearsed Warpy Aug 2012 #28
sorry I am a moran Kali Aug 2012 #29
No moran you. That was/is the live feed from the RNC Convention beac Aug 2012 #45
oh - thanks! Kali Aug 2012 #49
No tv here either. Hence my reliance on the series of tubes beac Aug 2012 #50
yeah, I didn't stay long enough to see for sure because the remarks 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #52
Reminds me of the Jeanne Garofalo bit cilla4progress Aug 2012 #33
I think they are both aliens from another planet davidpdx Aug 2012 #36
I stopped at her "thank you's" to the First Responders her husband wants to fire. n/t Amonester Aug 2012 #37
I noticed that when she talked about the hurricane avebury Aug 2012 #41
I started to watch the speech and had to avebury Aug 2012 #42
I was thinking about that; won't give mine now but I'd love to see what you think of their reactions patrice Aug 2012 #59
I watched Ann Romney's speech with the sound off avebury Aug 2012 #60
Nailed it. All! Especially #13. Not enthusiastic. They are not participating in AR's remarks patrice Aug 2012 #61
I was waiting... amerciti001 Aug 2012 #44
I feel the same way about Ann's speech as I did about Liddy Dole's in 1996: Zen Democrat Aug 2012 #51
Nice, but sly & not very convincing. Kind of shallow sounding. Except for "real marriage". patrice Aug 2012 #55

beac

(9,992 posts)
6. "We ate pasta and tuna fish"
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 10:24 PM
Aug 2012

Yeah Ann, that you bought by "selling a little stock"

And nice try on the breast-cancer-MS sympathy card, but you are still a nasty piece of work.

karmaqueen

(714 posts)
5. I do not post much but...
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 10:23 PM
Aug 2012

I am embarrassed for them.. She is no speaker... She is not making me like Mitt any better.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
7. Phony Rich People trying to act normal
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 10:24 PM
Aug 2012

If the Republicans didn't hate Pres Obama so much they would be laughing at her

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
54. Reverse Beverly Hillbillies.
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 05:57 PM
Aug 2012

Making Thurston Howell III & Lovey Howell, look like Granny and Jed Clampett.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
57. Yep, we had a door on sawhorses & 5 boys in the house are noisy & then we got 6 houses & a
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 06:19 PM
Aug 2012

million dollar horse.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
8. It's like a speech for prom queen.
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 10:27 PM
Aug 2012

Really.

Queen Ann reminds me of those girls in high school that was always perfect, always smiling a plastic smile, always a phony.

There just isn't any depth in her speech; the correct words, but no genuine passion.

This lady is a elitist ... plain and simple.

beac

(9,992 posts)
12. Wow, the post-speech applause barely lasted long enough
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 10:34 PM
Aug 2012

for her and Mittens to get off stage. Pathetic.

Sugarcoated

(7,704 posts)
17. She's got that snobby thing goin on
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 10:40 PM
Aug 2012

I can't relate to her at all, and she and Snit Snobney don't have a clue about me and people like me and nothing she said made me think otherwise.

Sugarcoated

(7,704 posts)
34. Joy-Ann Reid on MSNBC with Matthews
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 12:51 AM
Aug 2012

nailed it:
...and then the way she speaks, Ann Romney is a sort of very aristocratic personage, and she came off as the lady of the house, the Grande Dame, but the narrative that she was selling, the aw shucks common suburban housewife, because those things don't match, the speech struck me as kind of odd. This was the well-born lady who married well, who's got a very wealthy husband, and who's quite proud of him and loves him, but it didn't feel warm . . .

patrice

(47,992 posts)
58. That's it. The whole thing definitely felt ODD. Even the parts that were supposed to be emotional.nt
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 06:21 PM
Aug 2012

murray hill farm

(3,650 posts)
15. Having seen the devastation of MS,
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 10:38 PM
Aug 2012

I cringe a little when she mentions her MS. All I can think is the best of the best of medical intervention she has had for her challenge to be ongoing symptom free. It is as if she does not have MS. I am not questioning that she does, but if I ever have it I want that same superior medical intervention. I know, of course that I would not have that kind of care..nor would any of us " little" people....especially if her husband has anything to say about it.

beac

(9,992 posts)
19. She clearly has had treatments unavailable to the average prole and possibly
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 10:57 PM
Aug 2012

unavailable in the US, *cough cough-stem cells-cough cough*

And yes, despite her health challenges she seems to either not know or not care that her party wants to make sure only rich women like her will be able to treat their breast cancer or MS.

She's one out-of-touch spoiled Stepford wife.

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
43. Not to mention very expensive "dressage therapy horses"
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 08:08 AM
Aug 2012

You know, if riding helped her so much why wouldn't she use her high profile and her money to fund a clinic where people who have MS but who are not wealthy can enjoy the benefits of the muscle coordination and balance needed for the equestrian discipline.

She could call it "Rafalca's Place".

pnwmom

(108,914 posts)
18. I didn't watch, but sometimes MS symptoms
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 10:55 PM
Aug 2012

could make someone appear tipsy. A long time ago, people thought a neighbor's symptoms were due to drinking. I'm sure she did drink, but she also had undiagnosed MS.

beac

(9,992 posts)
20. I know that, being a Mormon, she doesn't drink
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 11:03 PM
Aug 2012

(or isn't supposed to)-- interesting that MS could make her seem tipsy. Possibly the ONLY indication that she has MS that I've ever seen.

That aside, I don't think MS or booze is to blame for the fact that she clearly didn't believe most of the BS she was selling and thus she came off as insincere and fake-- the ultimate plastic pageant queen.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
31. I have MS and this is true
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 12:28 AM
Aug 2012

Plus you get horribly exhausted and this time of night she probably is ready to drop especially after the stress of having to deliver that speech.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
53. Isn't stress one of the worst things
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 05:26 PM
Aug 2012

for MS? Can't it trigger a relapse or worsening of symptoms? If so, why in Dog's name would Mittens take that chance for his beloved wifey-poo? Maybe they consider being the First Lady to be just a walk in the park. Of course, Michelle does make it look easy, but graciousness comes to her naturally. Anne wouldn't know the definition of the word.

marlakay

(11,349 posts)
32. She was probably nervous
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 12:29 AM
Aug 2012

doesn't know how to talk to regular people except to order them around...

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
40. Michelle Obama never seems nervous in front of large audiences
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 03:16 AM
Aug 2012

Michelle's delivery is just way better. Then again, Michelle is an accomplished woman with a law degree and brains. She attended Princeton University and Harvard Law School.

Ann Romney is nothing more than a house wife.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
48. Depends what kind of housewives
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 03:08 PM
Aug 2012

Definitely not housewives like Ann Romney who are millionaires thanks to their husband's shady venture capital dealings. Housewives that have everything given to them....who have maids and servants do everything for them.

No, I don't

beac

(9,992 posts)
46. She probably does not, being Mormon. (Though the Rmoneys cheat in other areas of their lives, so...)
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 09:22 AM
Aug 2012

I think I should qualify what I meant by "tipsy." I didn't feel like her movement was off in any way, but she made several awkward, off-script outbursts that felt like the kind of thing someone with a little buzz going might say-- "I love all you women!", for example.

SunSeeker

(51,295 posts)
24. She kept saying how Mitt makes her laugh, but never gave any examples.
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 11:45 PM
Aug 2012

Did she mean his "No one ever asked to see my birth certificate" line?

Warpy

(110,744 posts)
28. With the sound off, she seemed well rehearsed
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 12:04 AM
Aug 2012

and I have to say her makeup was flawless (unlike Christie, whose hands were several shades lighter than his face). She was making nervous movements with her hands from time to time, quickly dropping them below the podium, so she wasn't completely at ease. I got a big kick out of her obvious "golf clap" for Christie.

There were a lot of women with crossed arms during her speech, uncrossing them to do golf claps of their own, their frowns maintained. One brittle blonde in batwing glasses loved her. The rest were considerably more reserved.

Romney hisownself looked like a barely animated mannequin, as usual.

Kali

(54,990 posts)
29. sorry I am a moran
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 12:10 AM
Aug 2012

not seeing the video at your link, found a video page but no ann - do not want to use too much data watching these people but your post caught my eye...

beac

(9,992 posts)
45. No moran you. That was/is the live feed from the RNC Convention
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 09:17 AM
Aug 2012

Last edited Wed Aug 29, 2012, 03:23 PM - Edit history (1)

They have her speech up as a "Best Moment" ( ) on that page now, so you should be able to watch it.

Kali

(54,990 posts)
49. oh - thanks!
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 04:04 PM
Aug 2012

I was kind of freaking out there - couldn't find anything, it was a page of twitter comments.

do I want to see this woman in action? I don't have tee vee so I don't know how her public speaking comes across at all.

beac

(9,992 posts)
50. No tv here either. Hence my reliance on the series of tubes
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 05:09 PM
Aug 2012

to bring me the madness and mayhem of the GOP hate fest.

I wouldn't subject yourself to her entire speech. A few minutes ought to do it. She had the same plastic, faux folksy, condescending demeanor throughout the entire speech, so a snippet should give you the gist.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
52. yeah, I didn't stay long enough to see for sure because the remarks
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 05:22 PM
Aug 2012

were so sickening. I came running back to DU and am running a virus scan right now. (nothing more than cookies yet)

cilla4progress

(24,554 posts)
33. Reminds me of the Jeanne Garofalo bit
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 12:33 AM
Aug 2012

"who's the pretty girl. who's the pretty girl. look at the shiny keys. that's good!..."

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
36. I think they are both aliens from another planet
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 12:58 AM
Aug 2012

Which would explain why they can't relate to "real" people.

avebury

(10,941 posts)
41. I noticed that when she talked about the hurricane
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 07:37 AM
Aug 2012

hitting land she said that everyone should hope that there is no loss of life or property. Michelle would have focused on hoping for no loss of life. Only a Romney would include loss of property. I guess we should be lucky that she mentioned people first.

avebury

(10,941 posts)
42. I started to watch the speech and had to
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 07:43 AM
Aug 2012

turn it off. I may go back and watch it with the sound off so that I can watch the crowd reactions.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
59. I was thinking about that; won't give mine now but I'd love to see what you think of their reactions
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 06:26 PM
Aug 2012

avebury

(10,941 posts)
60. I watched Ann Romney's speech with the sound off
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 07:55 PM
Aug 2012

and here are my thoughts as I am watching it:
1. Did you notice the empty seats in the upper level?
2. Where was her flag pin?
3. She looks like a Stepford Wife. Plastic surgery? She could afford it.
4. She really has a thing about pointing her finger at you.
5. 4:49 into the speech delegates with deer in headlight expressions (watching on youtube)
6. 5:29 at least some of the delegates look a tad bored.
7. 5:40 polite applause - where is the enthusiasm?
8. 5:44 & 5:53 you can really see the empty seats
9. 6:00 there goes the two fingered finger pointing again - how annoying
10. 7:35 she continues to look uptight, not a lot of smiling and it seems forced when she does
11. Around 9:14 with both hands up she reminds me of an Evita Peron type figure (but without Peron's charisma)
12. There is something about her mouth and her body language that just comes across as very condescending.
13. The delegate just don't come across as enthusiastic about her.
14. 18:53 Is that one of her sons and daughter-in-laws? The girl looks really thrilled to be there.
15. 19:00 some people not clapping, I say a yawn (LOL!)
16. The whole think looks more like a lecture then a speech.

Bottom line Ann Romney is no Michelle Obama. I don't think she did much to change the minds of women, minorities and people who are independent or liberal.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
61. Nailed it. All! Especially #13. Not enthusiastic. They are not participating in AR's remarks
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 10:20 PM
Aug 2012

emotionally. They don't care about what she is saying and that shows on their faces. I see reservations on their faces. And then, AS IF ON CUE, like they were told ahead of time to make a big "enthusiastic" noise when they got the signal, they finally do make a sound that's somewhat louder and more sustained towards the end there where AR says something about "Making America a better place."

Exactly my impression! This is somebody's canned idea of "human warmth". More like a lecture than a speech, not actually trying to talk to real people for real.

amerciti001

(158 posts)
44. I was waiting...
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 08:56 AM
Aug 2012

with bated breath for the "You People" moment every time she said "you_______". I guess her handlers couched her real good on not making that mistaken statement again.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
51. I feel the same way about Ann's speech as I did about Liddy Dole's in 1996:
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 05:15 PM
Aug 2012

Phony baloney. It reeked of condescension. Funny thing is after Liddy Dole's speech the pundits swooned. However, public opinion came in a couple of days later and it was trounced and quickly forgotten. Now the pundits are cooing over Ann. I think her speech will suffer the same fate as Liddy's.

None of these Republican women are fit to shine Michelle's shoes.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
55. Nice, but sly & not very convincing. Kind of shallow sounding. Except for "real marriage".
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 06:07 PM
Aug 2012

That "real" had a deep enough ring to it, motivated probably by her disgust for those "phony" marriages out there and I don't think we have to guess very much before we figure out whose marriages those might be, you know, those ones who aren't supposed to love one another, let alone commit to making that effort for one another for life. Those by contrast, of course, are not "real marriages".

The other part that had a deep enough ring of sincerity to it was her, "Mitt's the one you can trust" as opposed to that other guy, you know, whom you can't trust, because . . . . well, there's just something that isn't trust worthy about that Democrat, despite all of the facts about Obama's administration, you know there's something un-trustworthy about Barack Obama, something suspicious that all of us can see, right?

There was also that: we were married and we had a door on 2 sawhorses and an ironing board and then we had 9 houses.

And all of that stuff about mothers having to work harder, no mention of whether there's a doctor to call when you need one doesn't matter if you don't have the money to pay for him/her. Just mother's work harder because that's the way it's supposed to be, no suggestions for change. She REALLY harped on that sense of victimization there. I know some lower-middle and lower-economic class white women that's going to play pretty well too.

All in all, I'd characterize this as a rather sly speech.

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