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peacebird

(14,195 posts)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:32 AM Oct 2015

There was a letter on my precint box for the elections next week. Asked me to collect sigs for HRC

To get on the ballot. Not O'Malley, Sanders and Clinton. Just Clinton.

I am a precinct chair for dem party, I assumed the Dem Party supported all candidates equally and impartially until we had a nominee.

I was wrong. If I knew how to post a photo of the letter I would. But I have forgotten (do it so rarely)

I did call and ask for clarification, and said I would have petitions available for all three candidates on our table. But seriously.... This top down "Hillary is our candidate" stuff BEFORE ANY VOTES HAVE BEEN CAST is totally WRONG and undemocratic.

Edit: to clarify. This letter was signed by the Exec Dir, Chair, and Vice Chair of my county Democratic Party. On official lettehead. Included in box with supplies for my poling place.

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There was a letter on my precint box for the elections next week. Asked me to collect sigs for HRC (Original Post) peacebird Oct 2015 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #1
In private I do, but as Precinct chair I will collect for all Dem candidates. peacebird Oct 2015 #3
The Zeal To Elect A Female President Has Overshadowed The Good Judgement Of Many cantbeserious Oct 2015 #2
That's a part of it, the larger part is about having an establishment candidate Fumesucker Oct 2015 #13
Agree Completely - The Establishment Is Just As Fearful Of Bernie As They Were Of RFK cantbeserious Oct 2015 #21
Wrong, undemocratic, and downright fraudulent. CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #4
My thought as well. peacebird Oct 2015 #6
Fraudulent indeed. Don't hold your breath while waiting for Clinton to denounce these dirty tricks. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #25
It's one of the reasons she has that smug grin on her face. Le Taz Hot Oct 2015 #5
May it backfire on her HARD, as I hope her talking over BLM protestors yesterday will wake up peacebird Oct 2015 #7
We've had several tabling events Le Taz Hot Oct 2015 #17
precisely: the more Dems and indeps see JUST how stacked the deck is, from treating her as the MisterP Oct 2015 #22
Who wrote the letter? A party official? MineralMan Oct 2015 #8
Yes. It was signed by the Chair, Vice Chair, & Exec Director of our County Democratic Party peacebird Oct 2015 #10
Hmm. I'd be bringing that up at the next MineralMan Oct 2015 #12
I called my district chair when I saw it peacebird Oct 2015 #14
Who was the letter from? sufrommich Oct 2015 #9
See reply 10 above. It was from the Chair, Vice Chair, & Exec Dir of our county Dem Party peacebird Oct 2015 #11
Do you have a picture of the letter on your phone or camera? Fumesucker Oct 2015 #15
I do, i called my district chair already. She knows I support Bernie but I told her I would have peacebird Oct 2015 #16
A picture of the letter would strengthen your case but may not be wise personally Fumesucker Oct 2015 #19
Then that was wrong. If I were you I'd make a complaint sufrommich Oct 2015 #18
Thank you. I agree. We can support our own candidates but the Party should be unbiasedtil we have a peacebird Oct 2015 #20
here's the update on the story (also from Peacebird) MisterP Nov 2015 #23
Thank you, we need to know about this stuff. Shameful how blatant they are about undermining the sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #24
It's a political party, not a municipal clerk office. RandySF Nov 2015 #26
Not supposed to be biased. The party is supposed to support all candidates equally until primary peacebird Nov 2015 #29
Here is an archived image of the letter Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #27
Looks like the people in your county are in it!!!! NCTraveler Nov 2015 #28
Does your Committee ever endorse candidates? brooklynite Nov 2015 #30

Response to peacebird (Original post)

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
3. In private I do, but as Precinct chair I will collect for all Dem candidates.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:38 AM
Oct 2015

I feel it is important to be fair. The dem table at a polling place should collect signatures for all our candidates....

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
13. That's a part of it, the larger part is about having an establishment candidate
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:55 AM
Oct 2015

Bernie will upset the gravy train in major and unforeseeable ways, that scares the crap out of people who have power in the current milieu.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
5. It's one of the reasons she has that smug grin on her face.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:41 AM
Oct 2015

DWS and the entire Democratic Party is front-loaded for her and she knows it. Our local Dem Party office just about a month or so ago got a few Bernie bumper stickers and a couple of activists offered up their own signs for Bernie. But when you call the party office it's all about Hillary. Multiply that by thousands of times over throughout the country and you know why Hillary has that stupid ass Cheshire cat grin.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
7. May it backfire on her HARD, as I hope her talking over BLM protestors yesterday will wake up
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:43 AM
Oct 2015

Some voters. Her crowd cheering as the police escorted them out of the event...?

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
17. We've had several tabling events
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:03 AM
Oct 2015

and the hatred for Hillary out there cannot be understated. And these are current and former Democrats and Decline to States, iow, that's NOT the Republicans. The Republicans will get out in record numbers to vote against her in the General. She's seriously damaged goods.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
22. precisely: the more Dems and indeps see JUST how stacked the deck is, from treating her as the
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 01:56 PM
Oct 2015

elected candidate already to firing even Clinton loyalists who wanted more debates to the endless, endless baiting used to mask up a hideous record on race and LGBT to the whole "contradicting herself by the hour so as to rack up the most 'audiences' and endorsements" to the fingerwagging that if the Dems lose it's ALL YOUR FAULT--all these things the party's peak thinks will win it the primary and general are just turning everyone off of politics as usual

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
8. Who wrote the letter? A party official?
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:44 AM
Oct 2015

Someone from the public? That information would help clarify your post.

I'm also a precinct chair in Minnesota. We don't actually do anything about collecting signatures to get anyone on the ballot. That's up to individual candidates. I help voters register, but if they want to help an individual candidate, I just refer them to that candidate's website or other contact point.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
10. Yes. It was signed by the Chair, Vice Chair, & Exec Director of our County Democratic Party
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:52 AM
Oct 2015

On our county Dem Party official stationary, with logo.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
12. Hmm. I'd be bringing that up at the next
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:54 AM
Oct 2015

County Party meeting, then and make it clear that it's the wrong thing to do.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
11. See reply 10 above. It was from the Chair, Vice Chair, & Exec Dir of our county Dem Party
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:53 AM
Oct 2015

On official stationary. Included in the box of supplies for my polling place

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
15. Do you have a picture of the letter on your phone or camera?
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:57 AM
Oct 2015

There are plenty of people who would be happy to help you post if that is something you feel comfortable doing.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
16. I do, i called my district chair already. She knows I support Bernie but I told her I would have
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:01 AM
Oct 2015

all three candidates petitions on the table for signatures, not just Hillarys.
It is only fair.

Mostly I want to get the word out that there appears to be official party bias for Hillary even at county level.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
19. A picture of the letter would strengthen your case but may not be wise personally
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:07 AM
Oct 2015

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
18. Then that was wrong. If I were you I'd make a complaint
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:06 AM
Oct 2015

to someone higher up than your local district,they're not supposed to be doing that.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
20. Thank you. I agree. We can support our own candidates but the Party should be unbiasedtil we have a
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:08 AM
Oct 2015

nominee.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
24. Thank you, we need to know about this stuff. Shameful how blatant they are about undermining the
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:09 AM
Nov 2015

Democratic Process. I guess on the good side, it shows how scared they are that she won't win they throwing caution to the wind and showing their true colors.

Good for you. Now I will have to watch what goes on here.

brooklynite

(94,510 posts)
30. Does your Committee ever endorse candidates?
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 09:50 AM
Nov 2015

In Philly we always did. Party clubs in NYC do as well. No surprise that a State or County Party would.

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