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Marzupialis

(398 posts)
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 07:44 AM Aug 2012

Great news! Romney leads Obama in Florida by 14%

This is GREAT NEWS because this is the same pollster showing a Romney lead of 4% in Michigan.

Now that we know that this pollster is nothing but a BIG JOKE, since nobody in the world believes Romney holds a 14% lead in Florida, we can safely assume that the Michigan poll is another joke. Be aware that there is no error in these figures. The poll actually has Romney ahead by 14% in Florida!

The pollser is Foster McCollum White Baydum and Douglas Fulmer and Associates.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/103331632/FMWB-Fulmer-Associates-Aggregate-Polling-Study-Report-for-Florida-General-Election?secret_password=1zk6r9l2b6szas5ioh5

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Great news! Romney leads Obama in Florida by 14% (Original Post) Marzupialis Aug 2012 OP
. mim89 Aug 2012 #1
I have to add two things Marzupialis Aug 2012 #2
It isn't irresponsible to list them as a Democratic pollster. FBaggins Aug 2012 #4
here is a a list cindyperry2010 Aug 2012 #3
internal polling BelieveMe3 Aug 2012 #5
I don't think we should even post any more of this pollsters polls since it really appears WI_DEM Aug 2012 #6
Never heard of them, what is their reputation before this year? davidpdx Aug 2012 #7
My take on this: the poll is based on best case results of voter suppression. firenewt Aug 2012 #8
Please dig into crosstabs before worrying thevoiceofreason Aug 2012 #9
 

Marzupialis

(398 posts)
2. I have to add two things
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:00 AM
Aug 2012

1) Pollster.com irresponsibly lists this pollster as a Democratic pollster. In the methodology page, we are told that "notcommissioned on behalf of or by any candidate or political organization."

We are also told it is a "likely voter" sample, but it is not. The sample is something new and untested called "most likely" voters, which is a joke. See link I provided.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/21/fl-2012-president-554-rom_n_1818052.html

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
4. It isn't irresponsible to list them as a Democratic pollster.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:32 AM
Aug 2012

You won't usually see a public release of a poll that is commissioned on behalf of a candidate/party (or if you do, it will be released by that candidate).

For instance, PPP is one of the better-known Democratic polling firms, but they release lots of polls that are not commissioned.

I can't speak to how they got their "most likely" screen, but perhaps the larger error is that african americans made up only 6.3% of the sample (a bit less than a third of the actual FL demographic makeup).

BelieveMe3

(134 posts)
5. internal polling
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:35 AM
Aug 2012

Remember that the campaigns due internal polling. They know better than anyone what the race looks like. McCain's people knew he was going to lose and thus Palin. I believe Romney's people were not confident and felt like they had to change their conversation even if it was rolling out Ryan on a Saturday morning during the Olympics! Obama has led consistently nationally and in swing states that matter. It goes up and down, but Romney hasn't overtaken him overall. Despite everything they throw at him. Watch the campaigns to see how they are acting to detect what they might know. I don't sense a confident Romney camp.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
6. I don't think we should even post any more of this pollsters polls since it really appears
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 09:09 AM
Aug 2012

they don't know what they are doing.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
7. Never heard of them, what is their reputation before this year?
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 09:58 AM
Aug 2012

Maybe they are a KKKarl Rove operation?

Did a quick check online I couldn't find a thing other than the news stories.

 

firenewt

(298 posts)
8. My take on this: the poll is based on best case results of voter suppression.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 11:24 AM
Aug 2012

The GOP (Greed Over People) are faced with the daunting task of boosting poll numbers. I assume they are working on the fact people like get behind a winner. Showing Romney with a big lead will cause people who hate him to not vote and stay home.

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