2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBREAKING: Senator Sherrod Brown Endorses Hillary Clinton for President.
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2015/10/sen_sherrod_brown_endorses_hil.html#incart_river_mobile_homeThis is like Bernie's only senate buddy....backing Hillary.
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)Now even more.
enid602
(8,610 posts)Looks like Elizabeth's about the only one left who hasn't yet put a fork in it.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Herman4747
(1,825 posts)...and significantly he comes from a populous, toss-up state (Ohio).
Senator Brown has been one of our better senators.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)who would appoint his successor. We need all the good Dems we can get in the Senate.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)boston bean
(36,220 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)mcar
(42,298 posts)Cha
(297,110 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)I disagree with his endorsement but I don't hate him or any such thing.
Such overwrought and dramatic nonsesnse.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Sen. Warren endorses Hillary??
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)MineralMan
(146,284 posts)It may come as a surprise to some, however.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)is "passing" or "closeted"?
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)LOL!
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Great news for Hillary!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)People that have worked beside Bernie for years sure don't seem to think much of him, eh?
Something for Berniebros to think about.
oasis
(49,370 posts)Sherrod does his homework.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)plutocracy.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Under that bus with you, Sherrod!!
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)that's a great endorsement.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)to corporist centrist Clinton
guess he doesn't care about unions and working class people as he claims to.
mythology
(9,527 posts)That all of those elected officials are sellouts or you being wrong?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Robbins
(5,066 posts)if your liberal or progressive and your paying attention.
Obama already is selling out everyone who supported him in 2007/2008 by going back to iraq and going into syria.
Dems sold out unions and working class with TPP.Just like under bill clinton they did with NAFTA.Of course by supporting Clinton Brown has shown he never was really against TPP.it was just for show.
Now Dems are selling out both disabled and seniors with budget deal but increasing defense spending on the backs of disabled
and seniors.
and people try to pretend if they support clinton they aren't corporist and centrist.give me a break.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Some place over the rainbow where everybody gets their way and compromize is never needed.
Life is so ideally happy there
MineralMan
(146,284 posts)Sherrod Brown is one of our best progressive legislators. Your assessment of him is so freaking wrong it's laughable.
You can't imagine that he'd endorse Hillary Clinton? How strange. He has done so. He understands that she will make a powerful, progressive President. He'd insist on that before endorsing her.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)He's also a realist AND a lifelong Democrat. Why on Earth would he endorse a non-Democrat for the Democratic presidential nominee?
This endorsement is very important because it means he'll be campaigning for Hillary Clinton in a crucial "must win" State for both Republicans and Democrats.
This is exciting news!
Mass
(27,315 posts)Listen, I am no supporter of Hillary Clinton (I support O'Malley), but the idea that, because he endorsed the candidate you do not support, you are throwing Brown under the bus is ludicrous. He is one of the most reliably progressive senators.
riversedge
(70,182 posts)Oceanic
(4 posts)As a lifelong liberal Democrat and a Brown donor, I'd like to hear from Sen Brown why he did this... Honestly.
MineralMan
(146,284 posts)Try reading what it says at the link in the original post in this thread. That might answer your questions and ease your mind.
Oceanic
(4 posts)It's mumbo jumbo.
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)Gamecock Lefty
(700 posts)Hates unions and working people? Oh good grief!
Maybe he could endorse Bernie instead and sell out to gun manufacturers?
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)isn't
(1) what DU'ers thinks it means
(2) isn't actually an overwhelming, all encompassing "thing" with Hillary
(3) there is much, much more to POTUS than labels the opposition wishes to apply to a candidate.
William769
(55,144 posts)sheshe2
(83,728 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....Clinton, and Warren is leaning toward her, too.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Our entire party is now going centrist, corporatist now? This is so sad.
The Green Party is looking better & better.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)there is no place for liberals and progressives in Democratic party.Democratic party is a centrist corporatist pro-war party.
people who oppossed TPP are supporting free trade loving clinton who has already signaled she could revease back on TPP
The frustration level is becoming untenable.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)see post #39
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Regardless of candidate affiliation, I don't wish anyone sadness.
I actually am feeling a teeny tiny bit sorry for Jeb too. Not that I want him in the Whitehouse, but this whole polling thing has got to be crushing. OTOH, I don't feel very sorry for Rand Paul, I wonder why?
iandhr
(6,852 posts)If you seriously can't tell the difference between Hillary Clinton and the GOP crawl under a rock and don't come out again.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)gay marriage.
We keep enabling Dems who act like rethugs, we will keep getting the same thing. But the Dems like to talk liberal when they're campaigning. That's always nice. Its not so nice when afterwards, when they're in office & they're doing all to help big business & screwing us over while making excuses, is when its not so nice. And its getting old.
We needed that change Obama talked about in 08 & the country went crazy for. We still do.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)A few months after Bush moved into 1600 Pennsylvania ave most of my friends who were Nader supporters realized how wrong they were.
Just like you are wrong about Hillary.
Sad that some seem to need to learn a harsh lesson more than once.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Just so you know.
And ironically, I just posted this about him this morning~
http://www.democraticunderground.com/112792905
He is my hero. The world would look quite different today if he had been our president.
Hillary is corrupt & purchased & she will not help bring change. It makes my heart hurt that she will be our next president. But it won't be with my help.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Is virtually the same shtick I heard about Gore as a reason to vote Nader.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)But I never felt that way about Gore. He is a decent caring good man.
I don't feel Hillary is of that quality.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)and am so thrilled that Hillary got his endorsement. Totally cool.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)I don't think his endorsement, or any POLITICAL endorsements by insiders for that matter, are really worth all that much in this election cycle. People care less about who endorsed you, and more about "what are you going to do for me".
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)but, only for a small sub-set of the Democratic electorate, whose preferred candidate is not getting those insider (i.e., peer) endorsements.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)As always, you hit the nail on the head, 1SBM. You ROCK!
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)but we'll see when we see.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)when you are, personally, are politically dissatisfied, you are hearing from those you hang out with about being politically dissatisfied, and that dissatisfaction was planted, and continues to be nurtured, by a media that thrives on sensationalism ... this is the foreseeable result.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)if Senators like Sherrod Brown, with his local organizations and supporters, actively campaign for her in their state, it makes a pretty big difference. This applies as well to Congresspersons who are popular and active in their districts.
So yes, the fact of endorsing may be minimal, but the potential ACTS of endorsers can be pretty substantial.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Sorry.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Autumn
(45,042 posts)probably in the best position to win the nomination so I can understand why Brown would endorse Hillary. Endorsements are not binding so as far as I'm concerned it ain't over till it's over.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Both sides still have ALOT of work to do before the first few states.
Autumn
(45,042 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Autumn
(45,042 posts)Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)William769
(55,144 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Woohooo!
DCBob
(24,689 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)That's gotta hurt.
he just exposed himself as no real liberal or ally of bernie in senate.Just another centrist and corporist.But,then again democrats selling out inw ashington is norm now.At least you centrists and corporists have another one who have come out for you.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)What a bitter response. Sherrod Brown is NOT "just another centrist and corporatist". He's a genuine Liberal, and that's why this endorsement is so stellar for Hillary Clinton - because it kills the manufactured lie that she's a centrist and corporatist. Or did you think Senator Brown would've given his endorsement had Hillary not convinced him she would lead as a progressive? Really?
William769
(55,144 posts)And that seems to be the order of the day.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Robbins
(5,066 posts)fake liberals can say that all they want it doesn't make it true.
just more proof the democratic party is corporist and centrist and pro-war party.
Supporting Clinton shows the truth.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)Got it.
If you can't tell the difference between the GOP and HRC Sanders himself would call you and idiot. (Though he would probably use more diplomatic language.)
If you lived in Burlington in the 80s you would have called him a sellout for dealing the real estate developers.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)He tells it like it is, that's why he is a good guy.
ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,975 posts)K&R
mcar
(42,298 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)Mass
(27,315 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)Broward
(1,976 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)sheshe2
(83,728 posts)Sherrod Brown, #$%^&*()_(*&^%$# selling out to corporatist centrist Hillary?
Lol~ Under the bus he goes!
K&R
Thanks JaneyVee.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)thesquanderer
(11,982 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)Brown is the one bright spot that thinking Ohioans have. Why risk taking him out of the game. Not certain why he did this at this time but he did. Yesterday's news. As far as him being a VP for Clinton....I don't see it. Seriously, their policies are nothing alike! They may scratch each other's backs in some weird fashion, for dollars is what a Hillary supporter told me yesterday. This whole idea is very disturbing to me.
thesquanderer
(11,982 posts)He would have the benefit of helping capture difficult Ohio, and of helping appease the Warren/Sanders side of the party, which could also turn out more of that vote. VP selection is not about being like HRC, it's about helping HRC win.
That said, I wouldn't put money on this one... but it's an interesting possibility.
peace13
(11,076 posts)Looking at Ohio...the teabaggers who elected Kasich are HRC hating folks. Taking Brown out to try and help her is a big risk IMO. Hillary could have Jesus Christ for a running mate and still come up the loser here. That is the risk of nominating HRC. You have the folks on the right who hate the Clinton's from way back and the folks on the left who have watched Hillary for the past fifteen + years and remember her words and deeds, and then there are the die hard supporters from 2008 that have rallied behind her.
I see her inability to speak without reading, her inability to say what she thinks until the the other says what he's for, her support of the banks and her Wall Street friends and I still...feel the vote for the Iraq invasion. I hope that if I am forced to vote for her she has not robbed the only human Senator we have in Ohio. That would just be too much.
Spazito
(50,260 posts)it says a lot about Senator Brown's confidence she will reflect the progressive agenda he supports.