Conservatives can't wait to get Ryan in a debate against Biden

[bigdarryl]

There chopping at the bits LOL LOL DUMB FUCKS !!! They UNDERESTIMATE Biden at there own risk. My prediction Biden will take Ryan apart in the debate because he has those stinging one liners http://www.businessinsider.com/ryan-biden-debate-vp-conservatives-2012-8

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

1. Yeah, but we underestimate the Corporate Media at our peril. The media has been fawning

over Paul Ryan now since 2009. They love him. All he has to do is spell his name right, and he'll be declared the winner. And with moderators like Candy Crowley, who tend to be sympathetic to the Republican philosophy, I just don't trust it.

I'm rooting for Biden, but I don't trust how the Corporate Media spins.

[WI_DEM]

4. I agree. I also liked what Biden said yesterday in NC...

that there is nothing bold about giving tax cuts to the wealthy and cutting Medicare, Social Secuirty, Medicaid and education. I hope he keeps up that line in the debate, which I'm sure he will.

[Cosmocat]

7. As Krugman adaptly noted

the media puts people into roles (which almost ALWAYS cast by republicans).

As they cast Gore as arrogant and Bush as a RESOLUTE MAN OF CONVICTION they have cast the sharp and knowledgeable Biden as some kind of gaffe machine and the lightweight Ryan as a BOLD MAN OF IDEAS!

It won't matter much how it plays out in reality, the book is already written on that debate.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Joe Biden is a very smart guy.

They underestimate him at their peril. IIRC, he's a former prosecutor. He also has an enormous amount of knowledge and experience in foreign policy - which Ryan completely lacks.

Ryan should be scared to death to debate Joe Biden.

[get the red out]

3. +1

Absolutely! And Biden was handcuffed by the media against Palin because of the "she's a woman" issue. He does not have that obstacle with Ryan. I fully expect VP Biden to kick his ass.

[JoePhilly]

6. Joe has the foreign policy chops, and the hard scrabble Scranton life, women's issues ...

He's going to be able to punch holes in Ryan all night long.

[progressivebydesign]

20. also with his son in the Military, and his life as a single parent. Joe's got depth. n/t

[JoePhilly]

25. Agree ... to paraphrase, "I know Joe, Joe is a friend of mine, and Paul Ryan is no Joe Biden"

He's more like Ayn Rand.

[Lucy Goosey]

5. Even if Ryan mopped the floor with Biden, which isn't going to happen...

...what difference does it make? Has a VP debate ever decided a presidential election?

But seriously, how arrogant do you have to be to think Biden is going to be easy to beat? He has been a successful politician for a long time - he's done this before. The fact that conservatives are going nuts about the veep debate pretty much means they aren't excited about the presidential debates - because they know there's no chance the Romneybot 2012 is going to beat the President.

[AverageJoe90]

27. re: "because they know there's no chance the Romneybot 2012 is going to beat the President."

Not without serious amounts of fraud, that is......

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. I think it would be interesting if the VP candidate debated

the Pres candidate on the opposite ticket (Biden vs. Romney and Ryan vs. Obama). After all, the whole reason for having a VP (apart from needing somebody to break a rare tie in the Senate) is so there's someone who can stake over if the president is incapacitated. So wouldn't it make some sense to have each of the VP candidates debate the opposite presidential candidate? And even if it doesn't make sense it would be fun to watch.

[phleshdef]

12. I'd like to see team debates with all 4 candidates involved.

[gkhouston]

14. A cross-ticket debate or a team debate... both sound like awesome ideas.

It would rock if MSNBC could sponsor such a debate. Isn't is supposed to be "the place for politics"?

[Shrek]

16. I'd love to see hostile moderators

Let George Will question the Democratic candidate, and Rachel Maddow can quiz the Republican.

And give the moderators the leeway to pound away on topic until they get a straight answer.

[Scuba]

29. Greco-Roman Wrestling, Two Falls Out Of Three.

[DemzRock]

9. VP Debates aren't that important, but...

Didn't the Perot VP debate help to sink Perot?

[magical thyme]

10. Hey, something I agree with the GOP on!

They forget that before the media labled Biden as "gaffe-prone," they labeled him as "policy wonk" for his in-depth, long-winded oration on policy details. I remember the laughter when he answered a question, after being cautioned about his time limit, with "Yes."

And brought both sides of the house down.

He's had many, many years to hone his policy wonkiness with biting one-liners.

I, too, cannot wait for the Biden/Ryan debate. Unlike with Ms. Governor Palin, it will be no holds barred.

[Blue Idaho]

11. Debate performance isn't important

No one watches the debates - especially the VP debates. What matters is how the media reports the debates.

[FSogol]

13. Did you miss the 2008 election? All the debates had high ratings.

That's part of the reason CNN is pushing Ryan so hard. They want a horse race.

[Blue Idaho]

22. I think you are missing the point

It's not the debate - it's the countless hours of media spin that will convince most Americans who won and lost.

Here's the thing...

The first Presidential Debate of the modern era - Kennedy/Nixon was watched by 60% of adult Americans. In comparison, The 2008 Presidential Debates were watched by roughly 17% of the voting public.


Edit to add statistical data.

[GallopingGhost]

15. bring it, as the saying goes

I watch the VP debate, and I am looking forward to this one.

Biden makes me laugh, and he's no dummy.

[ailsagirl]

17. Liberals can't wait to get Biden in a debate against Ryan

[GallopingGhost]

18. I still chuckle

when I think of 2008, when Biden said something to the effect of, "This is a man (McCain) who has said he wouldn't sit down with the president of Spain!"

It was the way he said Sppppaaaaaaaiiiiiiiinnnnnnn", injecting just the right amount of incredulousness into it, as if to say, you McCain voters, are you out of your effing minds?

[progressivebydesign]

19. Biden will eat him for lunch. Don't be silly.

Joe has seen guys like Ryan come and go... All ryan has is his power point presentations. Joe is a BFD.

[Bake]

28. Yes, he is, and yes, he will!

Ryan won't know what hit him.

Bake

[Rosa Luxemburg]

21. Biden will take Ryan apart

have you seen Biden in the Senate?

[SmittynMo]

23. I say, "Bring it on, bitches!!!"

I wouldn't miss this for anything!!!

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

30. What Smitty said...(nt)

[graywarrior]

24. At their own peril

They should watch out for that old war horse once he gets his crazy on.

[elleng]

26. Joe Biden's wit, charm, and brains aside,

there's a good moderator for that one, Martha Raddatz. I expect it to be quite informative.

[GallopingGhost]

31. I've been on the republican message boards

for a while this evening, and yes, they are gleefully salivating over the propsect of Ryan annihilating Biden.

I don't know what kind of debater Ryan is, but it will be interesting. I wouldn't want Biden as my teether.

[SmittynMo]

32. Ever since Obama has been in the white house,

the right has been obsessive about how to get him out. They don't deal with the truth and facts, they just make shit up. A perfect example is Ryan. They think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Facts dictate that he has the lowest approval rating ever, and will abolish medicare, social security and many other social programs for this country. Rmoney has offended the hispanics, blacks, and women in this country. The idiots that support these two clowns, completely ignore the facts and think the GOP's stance is the only way to go. Are they that stupid, or is it the fact that hate Obama. I think we all know the answer to this. GO OBAMA!!!!