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Thu Oct 15, 2015, 01:59 PM

 

Millenials Are The Key To Democratic Success And Overwhelmingly, THEY WANT BERNIE


"..Democrats need to choose wisely this primary season. Catering to the voters they already can count on to turn out at the polls may not be the smartest move..."




Obama rode a wave of youth support to the Democratic nomination and the White House in 2008, connecting with them and motivating them to show up in November. In 2014, however, Democrats saw their Senate majority slip away as candidates across America ran to the center to appeal to the oft-cited-and-fawned-over "swing voters," and Millenials stayed home as a result.

Millenials (ie the 18-34 demographic) are the most fickle of all voter groups, and it's tough to get them to turn out. Older, mostly retired voters can be counted on to turn out regardless, but the trick to success is getting the Millenials excited. So then, who gets the Millenials excited? Overwhelmingly, the answer is Bernie Sanders.

The latest national Quinnipiac Poll breaks down favorability by age:


17. Is your opinion of Hillary Clinton favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about her?

....................... AGE IN YRS..............
....................... 18-34 35-49 50-64 65+
Favorable.......... 48% 45% 40% 36%
Unfavorable....... 49 53 56 59
Hvn't hrd enough 4 1 2 3


22. Is your opinion of Bernie Sanders favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about him?

....................... AGE IN YRS..............
....................... 18-34 35-49 50-64 65+
Favorable.......... 47% 35% 35% 27%
Unfavorable....... 15 24 36 32
Hvn't hrd enough 37 40 28 39


http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us09242015_ui47mfb.pdf



So while Hillary is underwater with Millenials at (-1%), Bernie sports a stunning +32% favorability rating, with -- and this is important to note -- 37% still yet to make up their mind. If the undecided voters break for Bernie at the same rate as the decideds, that will come out to a 75-24 spread for a 51% favorable rating for Bernie, giving him a whopping 52 point favorability lead over Hillary among Millenials. The age gap here is stark. Boomers may not be "feeling the Bern", but Millenials love Bernie, and it's the latter that Democrats are going to be counting on next November to put down their smartphones and show up at their nearest polling place to pull the lever.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/15/1432947/-Millenials-are-the-key-to-Democratic-success-and-overwhelmingly-they-want-Bernie

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Reply Millenials Are The Key To Democratic Success And Overwhelmingly, THEY WANT BERNIE (Original post)
Segami Oct 2015 OP
Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #1
Segami Oct 2015 #2
sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #3
randr Oct 2015 #4
Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #12
brooklynite Oct 2015 #5
workinclasszero Oct 2015 #6
frylock Oct 2015 #9
brooklynite Oct 2015 #10
frylock Oct 2015 #11
Fumesucker Oct 2015 #20
TM99 Oct 2015 #30
brooklynite Oct 2015 #33
TM99 Oct 2015 #45
brooklynite Oct 2015 #46
TM99 Oct 2015 #49
AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #41
artislife Oct 2015 #17
Scootaloo Oct 2015 #26
Fumesucker Oct 2015 #32
AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #43
in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #7
JaneyVee Oct 2015 #8
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #15
artislife Oct 2015 #18
Fumesucker Oct 2015 #22
AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #34
arcane1 Oct 2015 #42
reformist2 Oct 2015 #13
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #14
artislife Oct 2015 #19
AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #35
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #39
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #16
Fumesucker Oct 2015 #21
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #25
polichick Oct 2015 #23
Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #27
polichick Oct 2015 #28
aidbo Oct 2015 #36
Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #47
a kennedy Oct 2015 #24
Skidmore Oct 2015 #29
Renew Deal Oct 2015 #31
sufrommich Oct 2015 #37
aidbo Oct 2015 #38
Renew Deal Oct 2015 #44
arcane1 Oct 2015 #40
LettuceSea Oct 2015 #48

Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 02:01 PM

1. Bernie is the overwhelming choice on my kid's dorm floor.

 

Anecdotal ... sure.

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 02:09 PM

2. One look at that chart

 

and it becomes clear that Hillary has peaked in the "haven't heard enough" category while Bernie has room to grow across all the age groups.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 02:15 PM

3. Yes, they are actually driving his campaign. He definitely has reenergized them

with a very exciting campaign which they are very actively a part of.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:31 PM

4. All they have to do is show up to vote

If either the millennials or women showed up in above 60% figures and voted democrat it would be the end of all Republican legislators.

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Response to randr (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 08:01 PM

12. They will

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 05:08 PM

5. 12 years ago, the youth overwhelmingly WANTED DEAN...

...until it came time to actually vote.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 05:11 PM

6. Right.

 

If you are depending on young people to vote you in well..good luck because they usually don't show up on election day.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 06:33 PM

9. 8 years ago, the youth overwhelmingly WANTED OBAMA..

and look what happened.

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Response to frylock (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 07:48 PM

10. He's the "moderate Republican", right?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 07:59 PM

11. No, he's the Hope and Change guy..

Remember him?

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Response to frylock (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:24 AM

20. He kind of left us hoping for change unfortunately

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:07 AM

30. Yup, he is the liar

 

with a brilliant ad campaign of Hope & Change that so many youth fell for, well among others that fell for his Madison Avenue slickness.

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Response to TM99 (Reply #30)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:54 AM

33. ...and then they "fell for it" in 2012?

Where's Dennis Kucinich when you need him?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #33)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:34 PM

45. I notice you don't dispute

 

the fact that he campaigned as a progressive but has governed as a neoliberal.

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Response to TM99 (Reply #45)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:40 PM

46. No, I don't dispute that some people VOTED for him as a progressive...

...I recall his policy positions were never significantly different than Clinton's. I think a lot of people projected their "hope" for "change" on him and saw what they wanted.

That said, they were apparently happy to vote for him in 2012.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #46)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:44 PM

49. Yes, a lot of people did.

 

I was not one of them.

However, those that did expected him to be true to his words. He was not. That is called lying. The lie might have been a campaign, but why trust another lying neoliberal New Dem who will campaign as a progressive but not govern as one.

A lot of pissed off people are not planning on being duped again. I just hope it is enough to offset the horribly typical ignorant American voter easily swayed by ad campaigns, punditry, and the MSM.

I want Sanders to win, but I am not holding my breath.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:19 PM

41. The sequester wasn't so moderate

 

Neither was the austerity

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:15 AM

17. Different generation

 

Different times.

We are seeing the effects of climate change, most have seen their parents lose a lot during the crash of 2010, food is a large focus.


The shit hit the fan for most of America since Dean ran. It may be hard for you to understand from your self proclaimed bubble.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:53 AM

26. I think it's fascinating that clinton supporters' vision for victory...

 

Relies on completely writing off the largest individual age group in the US.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #26)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:36 AM

32. I've been thinking for a while that neither party wants a real landslide victory

If you eke out a bare victory you still have excuses for doing what your real owners want and telling your voters how hard you are trying but the other side is just so unreasonable.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #26)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:21 PM

43. Them and white males

 

No white males or youth. As this moves forward, other demographics will be thrown under the bus too as they switch their loyalties to Sanders.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 05:42 PM

7. 2015 estimate - 83.1 MILLION Millennials

66% of Millennials voted for Obama in 2008

Millennials are the most likely demographic to vote Progressive.

Not a bad voting block to have on your side! Especially since they are the Tech generation and Bernie's campaign is Internet based.

Go Bernie!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 05:58 PM

8. Unfortunately, they are the least reliable voting bloc:

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 08:17 PM

15. Oh, you found a Republican chart lying around

 

Aren't those abortions and food stamps?

Do you know how to make a graph, Janey?

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:16 AM

18. Keep your fingers crossed. nt

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:44 AM

22. They can be motivated to vote if they think they have skin in the game

And having grown up in a bullshit advertising saturated media environment they are much more attuned to filtering out doublespeak than older generations.

Wish as you might, Bernie is connecting with the younger generations more than the older ones, seeing someone genuine talking in words you can parse without it making your head hurt on the national political stage is such an extreme rarity that he stands out like the Kohinoor diamond in a coal bin.

I give Bernie realistically about a 25% chance, the establishment is really going to go to full on Ludicrous Speed on the Mighty Wurlitzer against him, he and his campaign and supporters will be trudging inch by painful inch into a howling blizzard of shit. It will be far more vile than anything that was said in 2008 by any side.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:56 AM

34. Normally, yes

 

But this isn't normal. People are tired of establishment politics.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:20 PM

42. That appears to be the turnout for New York City in 2008, not the whole country.

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 08:06 PM

13. NOTEWORTHY: 36% of all voters "haven't heard enough" yet about Bernie...


..according to that poll.

That's a LOT of people who have yet to FEEL THE BERN!!!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 08:10 PM

14. Ironically, after years of bashing them for not...

 

Voting, Hillary supporters are now hoping they don't vote.

File this under, careful what you wish for.

JaneyVee doesn't miss a beat.

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Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:17 AM

19. Repeatedly. nt

 

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Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:58 AM

35. Cognitive Dissonance

 

More and more, the world they see around them doesn't match what they believe in. to rectify the two, they do stuff like this.

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #35)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:10 PM

39. I think I figured out a way to pin them down

 

Start with the premise, Bernie dropped his bid today and endorsed Hillary.

Then ask them something about Hillary's. Every time I take Hillary to task, and I've seen it elsewhere when others do the same, it's met with a barrage of, "But, but, but Bernie said" this, that, or the other. It's like the scientific method and we need a control population. Lol

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:08 AM

16. Lots of Millenials for Bernie Facebook pages

 

A few links to "What Hillary will do for Millenials" articles.

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Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:28 AM

21. Probably half of them link to "it's a cookbook" level snark

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #21)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:43 AM

25. Probably worth taking a look

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:19 AM

23. Go to the polls Millenials - we didn't hover over your asses for nothing. :)

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Response to polichick (Reply #23)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:54 AM

27. Yeah, we've been helicoptering for years and boy are our arms tired!

 

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #27)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:59 AM

28. So true...

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #27)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:01 PM

36. Bernie needs some helicopter parent outreach..

 

..to get their kids up & at that polling booth.

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Response to aidbo (Reply #36)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:42 PM

47. My kid who is old enough will definitely vote.

 

He has friends who are pumped up for Bernie, too.

He says none of his friends like Hillary.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:36 AM

24. It's one thing to vote for president......will they vote down the line for D's?? and in the off

presidential elections?? Democrats get killed in the off presidential years.....gotta keep the enthusiasm up for down the Democratic ticket. JMHO

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:13 AM

31. Am I reading that wrong? More millenials view Hillary "favorably" than Bernie.

Last edited Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:29 PM - Edit history (1)

Hillary 48% Favorable
Bernie 47% Favorable

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #31)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:03 PM

37. No,you're not reading it wrong.nt

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #31)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:04 PM

38. No. That's a tie, assuming a MOE over 1 %.

 

You are neglecting to compare the unfavorable numbers for Clinton & Sanders though.

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Response to aidbo (Reply #38)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:29 PM

44. You're right

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #31)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:16 PM

40. You're reading it right. Check out the numbers for unfavorable n/t

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:43 PM

48. It does feel like a 'young vs old school' primary. How do we coalesce the two groups?

The "suck it up and get in line if you want to win" generation vs the "i'm no pawn and my vote is my own" generation.

It was easier to coalesce in 2008 because the younger generation got who they wanted, any the older voters were better at coming together even after not getting who they wanted. 2004, the young vote 'did not cooperate'...and we lost.

There's something to be learned from 2004...if HRC is the nominee, I hope the establishment does better job of attracting millennial votes, as opposed to blaming them and anyone else for losing. Makes me sick when we become the party of excuse makers.

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