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riversedge

(70,186 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 11:34 AM Oct 2015

NEW PPP poll -->Clinton leads every Democrat under the sun; OCT 6, 2015

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Clinton leads every Democrat under the sun http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/10/clinton-leads-every-democrat-under-the-sun.html
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.@ppppolls LATEST: African Americans - Clinton gets 51% to 30% for Biden and 13% for Sanders
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NEW PPP poll -->Clinton leads every Democrat under the sun; OCT 6, 2015 (Original Post) riversedge Oct 2015 OP
Clinton leads the Democratic race with 42% to 24% for Sanders, 20% for Biden, riversedge Oct 2015 #1
Having taken a (really) quick look at the numbers ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #27
Wheres the bern?? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #40
You'll Feel ProgressiveJarhead Oct 2015 #42
Oh I've already figured out that 3/4 of Bernies fans workinclasszero Oct 2015 #43
Are you saying the PPP poll is "stupid crap"?? riversedge Oct 2015 #55
I thought Bernie supporters were the ones who started crap? Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #48
Bernie Sanders supporters are the ones who finish the crap.. frylock Oct 2015 #50
I am right here. pangaia Oct 2015 #52
Picking up steam for the long haul ahead. oasis Oct 2015 #2
Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #4
Amen! oasis Oct 2015 #5
Amen DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #10
Great song and an inspiring movie. oasis Oct 2015 #16
Harry Belafonte turned down the part. As a lapsed Baptist I appreciate it. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #21
Yep, a presidential election is not a sprint. MoonRiver Oct 2015 #7
No thanks to MSM and DU "campaign advisers". oasis Oct 2015 #9
Getting ready to kick some GOP ass! leftofcool Oct 2015 #3
She lead Obama by more back in 2008... Soo... What does that really mean? cascadiance Oct 2015 #6
wait until the first debate jkbRN Oct 2015 #14
It will go something like this with the Vermont senator playing the role of Larry Holmes. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #22
And I suspect ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #30
Holmes said he didn't want to take that fight but he said when Don King waves $8 mi in front of... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #47
BOOM! "The race is close with very liberal voters (Clinton gets 45% to 41% for Sanders)...and Metric System Oct 2015 #8
yes. those numbers are a delight to see riversedge Oct 2015 #12
...race is close with- younger voters (Clinton/Sanders tied), 'very liberal' (Clinton +4), men (Cli riversedge Oct 2015 #15
I wonder what these numbers were before the debates in 2008 for Obama and Clinton?... cascadiance Oct 2015 #18
I know it's a snapshot, but it certainly contradicts some of the claims I've see on DU. Metric System Oct 2015 #23
But ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #31
Damn those pesky facts again workinclasszero Oct 2015 #44
Clinton head to head against Biden, 51/38; Sanders 54/34 . .. riversedge Oct 2015 #11
LATEST: African Americans - Clinton gets 51% to 30% for Biden and 13% for Sanders riversedge Oct 2015 #13
Bernie doesn't have a chance with numbers like that. DCBob Oct 2015 #36
Truth workinclasszero Oct 2015 #46
The takeaway from our new national numbers is that Ds are pretty content with current field, possibl riversedge Oct 2015 #17
Yes, that is pretty clear. MoonRiver Oct 2015 #45
a bit more..... riversedge Oct 2015 #19
These are good polling numbers for Hillary Clinton Gothmog Oct 2015 #20
Favorable Clinton 64%; Sanders 55%; Biden 72% riversedge Oct 2015 #24
Interesting.. Bernie's unfavs are picking up. DCBob Oct 2015 #35
Biden voters say Clinton is 2nd choice> Sanders, 44/21. Reallocate them Clinton leads Sanders 51/28 riversedge Oct 2015 #25
Polls dont matter though moobu2 Oct 2015 #26
The only polls that matter are the ones where upaloopa Oct 2015 #29
This has been the pattern since the beginning upaloopa Oct 2015 #28
Finally the truth appears out of the fog of BS around here! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #49
Great numbers for Hillary as always upaloopa Oct 2015 #32
Bernie still not connecting with African American voters. DCBob Oct 2015 #33
Love These #s!!! Gamecock Lefty Oct 2015 #34
Nice OP with great #'s for HRC. I like the follow up posts as well. K & R. nt. Persondem Oct 2015 #37
Good numbers for each candidate ram2008 Oct 2015 #38
Democrats know we need a fighter workinclasszero Oct 2015 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #41
PPP is a well rated polling firm, but the sample size seems a little small to me still_one Oct 2015 #51
HRC led Bernie by 35 points in the PPP poll issued early September... mak3cats Oct 2015 #53
OK but riversedge Oct 2015 #57
K&R. It's been a great week for Hillary, and it continues... lunamagica Oct 2015 #54
hypothetical matchup. O'Malley would trail the non-candidates Gore, Dukakis, Kerry & Warren. riversedge Oct 2015 #56

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
1. Clinton leads the Democratic race with 42% to 24% for Sanders, 20% for Biden,
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 11:37 AM
Oct 2015



http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/10/clinton-leads-every-democrat-under-the-sun.html
October 06, 2015


Clinton leads every Democrat under the sun

There has been seemingly endless discussion over the last few months about potential big name Democratic primary challengers entering the race to take out Hillary Clinton. So on our newest national poll we tested Clinton not just against Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden, but also against Al Gore and Elizabeth Warren and John Kerry and to make sure we were covering all our bases even Michael Dukakis.

Clinton leads the Democratic race with 42% to 24% for Sanders, 20% for Biden, 2% for Jim Webb, and 1% each for Lincoln Chafee and Martin O'Malley. Among Biden voters, 44% say Clinton would be their second choice to only 21% who say Sanders would be. If Biden doesn't get in and you reallocate his backers to their second choice, Clinton leads Sanders 51 to 28.

The race is close with very liberal voters (Clinton gets 45% to 41% for Sanders), men (Clinton gets 35%, Sanders 28%, Biden 24%), and younger voters (Clinton and Sanders tie at 36). Clinton is dominant with seniors (51% to 23% for Biden and 15% for Sanders), African Americans (Clinton gets 51% to 30% for Biden and 13% for Sanders), and women (Clinton gets 48% to 22% for Sanders and 17% for Biden.)
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
27. Having taken a (really) quick look at the numbers ...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:30 PM
Oct 2015
Clinton leads the Democratic race with 42% to 24% for Sanders, 20% for Biden, 2% for Jim Webb, and 1% each for Lincoln Chafee and Martin O'Malley. Among Biden voters, 44% say Clinton would be their second choice to only 21% who say Sanders would be.


This is really good news for M O'M ... I really don't think that much of the non-Bernie "second choice" support will go to Webb or Chaffee, as their platforms are not even in the same universe as Biden.
 

ProgressiveJarhead

(172 posts)
42. You'll Feel
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:47 PM
Oct 2015

a real burn if she gets the nomination, and heaven forbid, wins the general. The oligarchs' candidate. The more stupid crap the her supporters post, the less likely I am to vote for her. Clinton or republican-same thing.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
43. Oh I've already figured out that 3/4 of Bernies fans
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:54 PM
Oct 2015

have no intentions of voting for Hillary if she wins the nomination.

You all have made that perfectly clear, time and time again.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
48. I thought Bernie supporters were the ones who started crap?
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:04 PM
Oct 2015

We can do without this kind of unprovoked snark, ok?

frylock

(34,825 posts)
50. Bernie Sanders supporters are the ones who finish the crap..
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:11 PM
Oct 2015

the crap that started before he even announced. Let them enjoy their national polling numbers as Sanders knocks down primary elections like dominoes.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
16. Great song and an inspiring movie.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:00 PM
Oct 2015

I met Mr. Portier a few years back at a Barbra Streisand concert at the Staples Center in LA. Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer were also in attendance.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
7. Yep, a presidential election is not a sprint.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 11:48 AM
Oct 2015

She's doing great, and gaining more ground every day!

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
6. She lead Obama by more back in 2008... Soo... What does that really mean?
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 11:47 AM
Oct 2015

She didn't win then. Doesn't really mean anything solid now either if one looks at history...

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
47. Holmes said he didn't want to take that fight but he said when Don King waves $8 mi in front of...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:02 PM
Oct 2015

Holmes said he didn't want to take that fight but he said when Don King waves $8 mi in front of it's hard to resist.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
8. BOOM! "The race is close with very liberal voters (Clinton gets 45% to 41% for Sanders)...and
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 11:49 AM
Oct 2015

and younger voters (Clinton and Sanders tie at 36)"

Well, there goes those talking points about Bernie being the runaway favorite of progressives and youth.

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
15. ...race is close with- younger voters (Clinton/Sanders tied), 'very liberal' (Clinton +4), men (Cli
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:00 PM
Oct 2015



Tweet:

PublicPolicyPolling ?@ppppolls 41m41 minutes ago

Groups Dem race is close with- younger voters (Clinton/Sanders tied), 'very liberal' (Clinton +4), men (Clinton +7): http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/10/clinton-leads-every-democrat-under-the-sun.html
 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
18. I wonder what these numbers were before the debates in 2008 for Obama and Clinton?...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:06 PM
Oct 2015

Still WAY too early to be counting your chickenz!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
31. But ...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:36 PM
Oct 2015
Well, there goes those talking points about Bernie being the runaway favorite of progressives and youth


Progressives are not liberals, even the very liberal ones (for DU poll interpretation purposes).

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
11. Clinton head to head against Biden, 51/38; Sanders 54/34 . ..
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 11:54 AM
Oct 2015

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/10/clinton-leads-every-democrat-under-the-sun.html

....We also tested Clinton head to head against Biden, Sanders, Gore, Warren, and Kerry. Biden comes the closest- in a head to head against Clinton he trails only 51/38. No one else can come within 20 points of Clinton when it comes to a one on one contest. Sanders trails 54/34, Warren 58/28, Gore 67/22, and Kerry 69/17.

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
13. LATEST: African Americans - Clinton gets 51% to 30% for Biden and 13% for Sanders
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 11:58 AM
Oct 2015


AAmom ?@AVD911 37m37 minutes ago

.@ppppolls LATEST: African Americans - Clinton gets 51% to 30% for Biden and 13% for Sanders
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/10/clinton-leads-every-democrat-under-the-sun.html

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
36. Bernie doesn't have a chance with numbers like that.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:14 PM
Oct 2015

He wont be competitive in a single southern state.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
46. Truth
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:02 PM
Oct 2015

Thats why I have to SMH and laugh every time Bernie backers crow about a rally in Iowa or NH.

Bernie is dead in the water in the South and Super Tuesday will hand Hillary the nomination on a sliver platter.

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
17. The takeaway from our new national numbers is that Ds are pretty content with current field, possibl
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:02 PM
Oct 2015



PublicPolicyPolling ?@ppppolls 48m48 minutes ago

The takeaway from our new national numbers is that Ds are pretty content with current field, possibly adding Biden: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/10/clinton-leads-every-democrat-under-the-sun.html

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
19. a bit more.....
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:06 PM
Oct 2015


PublicPolicyPolling ?@ppppolls 53m53 minutes ago

In head to heads Clinton would lead Biden 51/38, Sanders 54/34, Warren 58/28, Gore 67/22, and Kerry 69/17: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/10/clinton-leads-every-democrat-under-the-sun.html
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PublicPolicyPolling ?@ppppolls 54m54 minutes ago

When you throw Warren/Gore/Kerry/Dukakis in mix 83% of Clinton voters stay with her, 80% of Biden's, 69% of Sanders' http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/10/clinton-leads-every-democrat-under-the-sun.html

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
24. Favorable Clinton 64%; Sanders 55%; Biden 72%
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:16 PM
Oct 2015



October 1-4, 2015
Survey of 551 Democratic primary voters
October 1-4, 2015
Survey of 551 Democratic primary voters
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National Survey Results



Q1
Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion
of Joe Biden?


72% Favorable
........................................................
16% Unfavorable
....................................................
12% Not sure
..........................................................

Q2 Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion
of Hillary Clinton?


64% Favorable
........................................................
26% Unfavorable
....................................................
10% Not sure
..........................................................

Q3 Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion
of Bernie Sanders?

55% Favorable
........................................................
26% Unfavorable
....................................................
19% Not sure
..........................................................

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
35. Interesting.. Bernie's unfavs are picking up.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:12 PM
Oct 2015

I guess the more you get to know him doesnt necessarily mean the more you will like him.

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
25. Biden voters say Clinton is 2nd choice> Sanders, 44/21. Reallocate them Clinton leads Sanders 51/28
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:18 PM
Oct 2015



PublicPolicyPolling ?@ppppolls 1h1 hour ago

Biden voters say Clinton is second choice over Sanders, 44/21. Reallocate them and Clinton leads Sanders 51/28: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/10/clinton-leads-every-democrat-under-the-sun.html
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PublicPolicyPolling ?@ppppolls 1h1 hour ago

Our new national Democratic poll- Clinton 42, Sanders 24, Biden 20, Webb 2, Chafee/O'Malley 1: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/10/clinton-leads-every-democrat-under-the-sun.html
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upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
29. The only polls that matter are the ones where
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:33 PM
Oct 2015

they ask the "people" who they prefer. This poll must have been asked of the big banks, corporations and Wall Street firms.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
28. This has been the pattern since the beginning
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:30 PM
Oct 2015

of the race. Without Biden Hillary is in the 50's and Bernie is in the 20's. It will remain this way until Hillary is nominated.
All the noise about Hillary tanking or losing support among women and POC has been just smoke being blown up everyone's ass.
Hillary's campaign is doing just fine thank you.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
49. Finally the truth appears out of the fog of BS around here!
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:05 PM
Oct 2015
"Without Biden Hillary is in the 50's and Bernie is in the 20's. It will remain this way until Hillary is nominated."

Gamecock Lefty

(700 posts)
34. Love These #s!!!
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:56 PM
Oct 2015

The BS supporters on DU keep reminding us of Hillary’s #s vs Obama in 2008.

Maybe we need to remind the BS supporters the huge crowds Howard Dean was drawing vs John Kerry in 2004 and ask them who won that nomination!!! Zing!

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
38. Good numbers for each candidate
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:15 PM
Oct 2015

Hillary because she still has the lead, Bernie because he's not too far behind and could see a jump after the debates/ if he wins the first two primaries. Biden because he's at 20% without running and will probably jump another 10 points if he enters the race.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
39. Democrats know we need a fighter
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:15 PM
Oct 2015

to go against the republican hate machine, and Hillary has been fighting the bastards for years!

GO HILLARY!

Response to riversedge (Original post)

still_one

(92,126 posts)
51. PPP is a well rated polling firm, but the sample size seems a little small to me
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:16 PM
Oct 2015

"Public Policy Polling 551 Democratic primary voters between October 1st and 4th. The margin of error is +/-4.2%. 80% of participants responded via the phone, while 20% of respondents who did not have landlines conducted the survey over the internet."

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
53. HRC led Bernie by 35 points in the PPP poll issued early September...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:50 PM
Oct 2015
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_90115.pdf

I'll take Bernie going from 35 points down to 18 points down in about a month to be a positive thing. Thanks!

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
57. OK but
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 09:38 AM
Oct 2015

we will see as time goes on. Sanders can not seem to break that 30-35 pt ceiling. Once hit he stalls.

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
56. hypothetical matchup. O'Malley would trail the non-candidates Gore, Dukakis, Kerry & Warren.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:05 PM
Oct 2015



Tweet:
PublicPolicyPolling Retweeted
Aaron Booth ?@ActorAaronBooth 7h7 hours ago

In @ppppolls extremely hypothetical matchup. O'Malley would trail the non-candidates Gore, Dukakis, Kerry & Warren.

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