Heartless, Shameful and Most of all for the Loved Ones of those murdered, so Disrespectful

[sabrina 1]

Yet another horrific tragedy occurred in yet another school, the one place where in a decent society, people should feel safe, this week.

I remember several years ago when another horrible tragedy occurred stating that the saturation coverage would continue for a week or so, then the victims would be forgotten, until the next time.

There have been more than one hundred next times since then.

You never get over the loss of a child or any loved one for that matter, especially when that loved one dies so senselessly.

Those predictions sadly, came true, I doubt anyone remembers the names of a single victim of any of the awful crimes that have occurred so frequently now, over the past several years.

But one thing I know, from personal experience, the surviving loved ones never forget.

I have seen the CYNICAL USE of this latest tragedy for Political Purposes and feel sick to my stomach that people can even think of using such a tragedy for such a purpose.

What has been absent is any sign of actual compassion for the victims..

This is only to say that for those left behind whose pain is beyond imagination unless one has experienced it themselves, I wish we could have stopped it somehow, I wish this nightmare had never happened, I wish we lived in a country where compassion and kindness prevailed over violence and anger.

Just wanted to stop for a moment and remember that there are people grieving right now, in shock, no doubt when the election is over and no one who is so 'concerned' now, will even mention this tragedy, or think about the victims, THEY will still be in shock, they are changed forever.

No candidate in this election is responsible for this horrible crime.

And no candidate or their surrogates or supporters should stoop so low as to use it, or try to imply that any other candidate is responsible.

But then, this is the country where these horrible tragedies occur on an almost monthly basis, maybe more, so we should not be surprised to see such heartless cynicism as we are witnessing to day.

RIP to the beautiful human beings who are no longer here and if I could, to their loved ones, I would simply say 'I am sorry'

As a victim of a terrible tragedy myself, I would be appalled to see it used as this is being used.

It would only add to the pain!



Maybe as a nation we can unite to try to find a way to figure out why this is happening and how we can prevent it.

But smearing candidates in political campaigns sure isn't the way for anyone who is sincere.

[HooptieWagon]

1. They have no shame.

We've all seen the ridiculous lies they've concocted, and they'll only become more desperate as HRH continues to drop in the polls.

[sabrina 1]

4. Politicians have done nothing to stem the violence in this country. Every time there is a tragedy,

we hear all the same rhetoric. But how many Dems eg, have had the guts to stand up to the NRA even when they were in power?

I don't look to politicians to solve these problems.

People have to get so angry as has happened wrt to other issues, see DADT eg, where they become actively involved themselves, making it an issue that no politician DARES not to support, or oppose.

So I know when I see these tragedies being used, it means NOTHING. Other than they shamelessness of political operatives and it sickens me.

We've had years to do something about this. And it's only getting worse.

So they can spare me their 'concern'. I don't buy it and I find it to be despicable.

[beam me up scottie]

2. If they were so concerned about the issue they would support Bernie's proposals.

Acknowledge his pro-gun control record and focus their attacks on the Republicans who block every single piece of legislation brought before them.

But to some it's not about the victims at all, it's about scoring points on DU.

[sabrina 1]

5. It's absolutely not about the victims. I noted the lack of mention of the victims in all those

threads. Not a word.

Same thing of course with racism. I remember trying to keep the Ferguson protests on the front page, at least here, along with a few other DUers because I knew once the media left, once again, another brutal murder by cop would be forgotten.

I looked back at some of those threads a few weeks ago, and strangely enough I didn't see any of the 'concerned about racism' crew there.

One poster who was wonderful at bringing us news from Ferguson, finally wrote a final OP saying goodbye to DU because, he said there was so little interest here and he would prefer to go where he could do some good. Some of us asked him to stay because he single handedly kept the story going here, but he never responded.

I joined him shortly after in going where the topic was of interest to people, on Social Media, following and promoting the work being done by the Ferguson activists, and still do. Yet I never see a word about the REAL fight against racism, ongoing since Ferguson all over the country, the protests, the arrests etc, here. We on Social Media do what we can to keep the story alive. Here it's a waste of time, very little interest. Hypocrisy is rampant in the world of politics, sadly.

[Live and Learn]

6. And his pro-mental health policies. People need help and if we want to stop violence we will

ensure they have access to it and put more money in to studying and curing illness of all kinds.

[LWolf]

7. The recent tragedy in my state...

I didn't discover for a couple of days that I knew one of the victims. Not well; I met him a few years back on a professional group. Another was a family member of someone else I know.

For me, it's about the victims, and about the people that love them.

I've tried to stay away from people using it for campaign fodder.

[sabrina 1]

8. I am so sorry LWolf!

Too tragic for words!

[DanTex]

9. Not to mention the victims of the Iraq War.

Have you seen all the people using them as a political bludgeon to bash Hillary with?

[sabrina 1]

10. This is what I've seen and done regarding the victims of that terrible invasion, it wasn't a war btw

I've seen Progressives for YEARS trying to stop the warmongers from continuing to create more victims. I've seen Progressives for YEARS trying to get that Gulag in Gitmo shut down, to try to stop the brutal force feeding of those mostly innocent detainees.

I've seen the support the victims of that awful war to try to get justice in OUR Courts of Law only to be refused each and every time.

Progressives have worked tirelessly on behalf of the victims of our horrible interventions in the nations that are now nothing but futuristic nightmares that we created.

I see them trying to help the refugees, not just the latest who are fleeing Libya and Syria but the 4 Million who fled Iraq when we turned their country into a nightmore of horrors.

Actively involved iow, in doing whatever they can to try to help and STOP any more of the same criminal invasions.

We opposed the invasion of Libya, intervention in Syria and again we see the horrible results of those awful policies, supported by Clinton.

I'm not really surprised you were unaware of what people have been trying to do to help the victims of our invasions for over a decade now.

Not to mention working to elect Reps who will end these Imperial ventures and cut the military budget

Those who voted for neocon invasions are directly aiding and abetting the tragic outcomes.

RIP to the victims of this last horrible shooting.

The best way to not let their deaths be in vain is to try to find a way to CURE this nation of its love affair with violence.

I would hope that all decent Americans would be thinking about how to stop the inevitable NEXT mass killing rather than attempting to make political hay out this one.

[DanTex]

11. Progressives have also fought against gun violence. Part of that is not electing

politicians who have helped the NRA firewall against gun control laws. Like Obama said, we should "politicize" this, because it is a problem that the body politic -- the people -- have to deal with.

And, whether you like it or not, Bernie has been part of the problem for much of his career. If he's finally evolved, that's good news. But he did vote against the Brady Bill, and then in favor of PLCAA. Both were very significant pieces of legislation, arguably the two most significant gun votes in congress during his entire career. And he was on the wrong side of both.

[sabrina 1]

14. No, Bernie has not been, but keep on telling that story. Seems to be all you care about since it's

all you talk about. Slamming a politician using this awful tragedy to do so. No attempt to try to find solutions, such as the CAUSE of the violence in this country. WHY are we so violent?

Canadians have guns, why are they not experiencing these mass murders? Maybe there ARE answers, maybe there is a way to cure our violent culture.

Maybe you're not interested in the subject at all.

Maybe for some people all it is a 'political opportunity'.

[Metric System]

13. And what about horrible gun policies supported by certain candidates?

[99Forever]

12. Some people have no humanity, decency, or ethics.

They will say or do anything to "win."

And those people can't seem to grasp why some of us will NEVER stand with them.

[moobu2]

15. like this OP isn't purely political.

[sabrina 1]

17. I don't know you and you for sure don't know me. This is a RESPONSE to those who have attempted to

use this as a political football and we know for a fact that all the talk and talking points will lead to NO SOLUTION to the violence in our society.

I see no SOLUTIONS being offered here, just political opportunism.

I know this, because I HAVE written about it in the PAST noting the Media Coverage, and noting that a week later it is forgotten.

How often have YOU talked about this issue on DU or any other forum?

What solutions do you have? I see none, thanks for making my point btw.

RIP to all the the victims of our brutal, violent society.

We have a long, long way to go before anything can be done to try to turn it around but we could try to understand why we are so violent as a nation.

Maybe after the elections, when it won't be used as a political football, we can talk about it with some sincere efforts to understand it, because we can't fix what we don't understand.

[Armstead]

16. I unfortuntely have to agree after opening up DU and seeing more crap

It's one of those issues where the differences between the Democratic candidates is around the margins.

But seeing so many sleazy attacks, and meaningless campaign promises, about it in the wake of yet another gun-related tragedy is, um, annoying to say the least.