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Wed Sep 30, 2015, 11:44 AM

Frank Bruni: Hillary Clinton’s Pajama Party


By Frank Bruni, The New York Times


She had a law career, an ambitious agenda as first lady, an industrious stint in the Senate, those years and miles as secretary of state.

And it has come to this: In a bid to seem less stuffy and turn the page on a beleaguered (yet again) presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton is chatting with Lena Dunham about the singer Lenny Kravitz’s penis.

You can watch the video yourself. It’s a jokey promotion for an interview of Clinton just published in a new newsletter that Dunham is putting out. You can also see a comedic sketch of Dunham’s arrival at Clinton’s campaign headquarters in Brooklyn and the make-believe refusal of a Clinton gatekeeper to let her in. There’s even a cameo by Amy Schumer.

The interview itself covers Clinton’s biography and some serious terrain, including feminism and the relationship between African-Americans and the police.

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But still I’m baffled. How can her response to charges that she’s too packaged and calculating be this packaged and calculated? And to counter her image as entrenched political royalty, why would she enlist stars whose presence merely emphasizes her pull with, and membership in, the glittery world of celebrity?

“Insane,” said one Democratic operative when I sought his reaction. ..................(more)

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Reply Frank Bruni: Hillary Clinton’s Pajama Party (Original post)
marmar Sep 2015 OP
DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #1
Metric System Sep 2015 #2
snooper2 Sep 2015 #5
Metric System Sep 2015 #6
snooper2 Sep 2015 #8
DanTex Sep 2015 #3
DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #4
oasis Sep 2015 #11
BlueWaveDem Sep 2015 #7
Clayton Clay Sep 2015 #9
Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #10
KoKo Sep 2015 #12
MisterP Sep 2015 #13
DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #14
KoKo Sep 2015 #15
DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #16
KoKo Sep 2015 #17
DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #18
KoKo Sep 2015 #19
DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #20
KoKo Sep 2015 #21

Response to marmar (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 11:50 AM

1. It seems like "much ado about nothing."

Bill Clinton loved the company of famous people. George Walker Bush eschewed the company of famous people. Barack Obama seems to be in the middle.

Enjoying the company of famous people doesn't reveal a lot about people.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:39 PM

2. Why is everything Hillary does analyzed, parsed and critiqued? Sanders, Trump, Biden and others

have all appeared on nationally televised talk shows and/or in comedy bits, but when Hillary does it it's different. Somehow it's considered more calculated.

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Response to Metric System (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:52 PM

5. aw poor Hillary everyone is out to get her LOL

 

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:06 PM

6. LOL, thanks for contributing nothing to the conversation.

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Response to Metric System (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:31 PM

8. Here you go, you'll like this!

 

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:42 PM

3. I like Frank Bruni, but I have to wonder, did he write the same kind of article when Obama

went on "between two ferns" to sell Obamacare?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:53 PM

11. Great deadpan, in the Bob Newhart tradition.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:10 PM

7. Bernie has a whole page touting famous people who endorse him.

 

Pajama party.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:17 PM

9. Frank Bruni is the male version of Maureen Dowd

 

A gossip-pseudojournalist who dislikes the Clintons.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:31 PM

10. Lenny Kravitz Penis

 

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 04:33 PM

12. Yuck.....

It looks staged. I guess its to show Hillary has a sense of humor--like she might be joking the way a mother would with a daughter--but, given what went on with Bill and Monica, it seems in poor taste to be talking about Lenny's stuff falling out of his pants.

I don't think it was a good strategy for her campaign, but I imagine that many people thought it was a warm and fuzzy moment.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 04:58 PM

13. dancing the nae nae on Ellen, talking about cock with a highly-molesty writer ...

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Response to MisterP (Reply #13)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 05:01 PM

14. It is refreshing to see sexagenarians with healthy libidos.

eom

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #14)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 06:42 PM

15. I guess one could look at it that way....

I prefer that Hillary was just playing Funny with a "Daughter Type" that fit their Campaign Spin to get Hillary Out there "Reaching Out to the Young." But, with a nasty reminder of the Clinton Years that was Lurking that her Campaign somehow didn't figure out ....that Older Voters/Supporters of Clinton Years might remember.

But, then....she's reaching out to the YOUNG who don't remember those years so....her Campaign thinks "All is Good."

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Response to KoKo (Reply #15)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 06:47 PM

16. I don't see the nexus between Lenny Kravitz ...

I don't see the nexus between Lenny Kravitz inadvertently showing his junk and Bill Clinton's infelicities.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #16)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:24 PM

17. Ummmm.......

Bill & Monica.

Those of us who worked to get Bill Clinton Elected and his Staffers and Others who'd supported him through Whitewater and the other Repub Investigations were pretty upset when the full story of what Bill did (showing his stuff) in that room off the Oval Office where Presidents Preside over Official Business heard about "cigars, showing stuff and other antics" that went on in the Lewinsky Scandal.

Hillary really should have used more discretion or she was duped into that show because she didn't know better about Dunham's background to be better on guard and allowing herself to be "set up."

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Response to KoKo (Reply #17)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:27 PM

18. I wasn't upset because I suspected he and Monica were fooling around from the jump.

Unfortunately some men are only as loyal as their opportunities .

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #18)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:36 PM

19. Well...I agree with you there...

but what do you think that means about Hillary/Bill Presidency Third Term....? If he can't keep it in his pocket?

He WILL BE part of the White House. And one is never too old to "get ideas." And, many of us are too tired of the Clinton Scandals to want to go through this again.

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Response to KoKo (Reply #19)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:38 PM

20. Bill looks like he needs a cheeseburger. He might be willing but I am not sure he is able.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #20)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:45 PM

21. There are always ways...

Cigars....Fantasy...rooms Off the Oval Office....

Hey...I was of an age that was a supportive of Clinton as young people were for Obama. Fortunately, Obama (as far as we know) wasn't using cigars on interns in the ante-room off the Presidential Oval Office.

But, as you sort of alluded to....certain men's drives find creative ways to fulfill it. One is Never too Old ...if they are Creative...and Ultimate Power leads many to be Creative in many ways that ordinary people aren't privy to.

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