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Marzupialis

(398 posts)
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 11:04 AM Jul 2012

Number of pollsters with conflict of interest keeps growing

As if we had not had enough pollsters with a dog in this fight,such as We Ask America (R), Mitchell Research (R), Rasmussen (R), PPP (doing polling for the liberal Daily Kos), Zogby (doing polling for ultraconservative Newsmax), we now get a "Susquehanna" poll which finds Obama leading Romney by only 3% among likely voters in Pennsylvania. The catch: The poll was conducted for the Republican State Committee.

I don't believe the race is so tight in this state.

I wish there were less pollsters with a conflict of interest. They are motivated to make their sponsors feel good about the state of the elections. I'm going to stick with Pew, Quinnipiac and other unbiased, unconflicted pollsters with a good track record.

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Number of pollsters with conflict of interest keeps growing (Original Post) Marzupialis Jul 2012 OP
Gallup has been worthless for years due to incorrect weighting. Warpy Jul 2012 #1
Marist isn't terrible either. Arkana Jul 2012 #3
This is why the only "polls' that matter are the ones we go to to vote on Election Day. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #2
Thank you..... a kennedy Jul 2012 #4
Does anyone else ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #5
Are you equally prepared to disavow more favorabole polls by PPP? brooklynite Jul 2012 #6
PPP most recent poll for 'liberal daily kos' had Obama only leading by 2 WI_DEM Jul 2012 #7
Not saying that it's not accurate, just that it potentially also has a COI brooklynite Jul 2012 #8

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
1. Gallup has been worthless for years due to incorrect weighting.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 11:18 AM
Jul 2012

Rasmussen is a joke. It seems that some of the old standbys like Harris and Ipsos-Reid have gone to commercial polling instead of political polling. We'll have to see if they rejoin the fray later on.

I'm with you, it's Pew and Quinnipac. Most of the others are tainted.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
3. Marist isn't terrible either.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 11:54 AM
Jul 2012

PPP isn't bad, as long as you take into account that they have a slight D tilt.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
2. This is why the only "polls' that matter are the ones we go to to vote on Election Day.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 11:54 AM
Jul 2012

Otherwise, you'll drive yourself mad, and DU will be all hand-wringing, all the time.

I block them out. You have to. There are very few fair ones anymore, and very few that can accurately measure how people will vote, based on our phone habits now.

a kennedy

(29,647 posts)
4. Thank you.....
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 12:34 PM
Jul 2012

whew, I feel a lot better, I just need people reminding me polls suck. I'm one of the DU people that get's wrapped up in polls......so thanks

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
5. Does anyone else ...
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 12:44 PM
Jul 2012

have a problem with this article's underlying premise ... that who pays for the polling affects the polling results?

The simple solution would be bar the "news media" from reporting on all electoral polling.

When polling results come from the campaigns, it is assumed that the data has been gamed; but when {pick a media outlet} reports polling results, the general populace assumes that the numbers are unspun facts.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
6. Are you equally prepared to disavow more favorabole polls by PPP?
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 12:47 PM
Jul 2012

Personally, I ignore ALL point of time polling, and pay attention only to the trend-lines.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
7. PPP most recent poll for 'liberal daily kos' had Obama only leading by 2
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:26 PM
Jul 2012

Their polls on their own have shown Obama with declining leads in Iowa and New Mexico and other states. PPP, I think, is a pretty reputable pollster.

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