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Bernie Sanders on Marriage Equality October 23, 2006Last edited Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:43 PM - Edit history (1)
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 Bernie Sanders on Marriage Equality October 23, 2006 (Original post) |
Chitown Kev | Sep 2015 | OP |
| SouthernProgressive | Sep 2015 | #1 | |
| virtualobserver | Sep 2015 | #6 | |
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Response to SouthernProgressive (Reply #1)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 12:52 PM
virtualobserver (8,760 posts)
6. Bush was President and civil unions were legal in Vermont
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #10)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:03 PM
virtualobserver (8,760 posts)
11. Those Bushes are such private people
Response to SouthernProgressive (Reply #1)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:08 PM
13. bernie did not want the feds
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to be able to override states that had civil unions.
your statement, either by design or by accident, suggests that bernie was not in favor of ss marriage, which he always has been  |
Response to SouthernProgressive (Reply #15)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:23 PM
21. it is still out of context
Response to SouthernProgressive (Reply #22)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:28 PM
25. he has always been for full equality rights
Response to SouthernProgressive (Reply #26)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:37 PM
32. well then all i have to say
Response to SouthernProgressive (Reply #22)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:20 PM
88. Bernie did not want the Federal Govt to be able to over ride states, like his own
Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #88)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:35 PM
97. Only Massachusetts had same-sex marriage laws on the books
Response to SouthernProgressive (Reply #15)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:38 AM
134. Bernie Sanders supported Civil Unions Period. He was afraid of the Federal Govt being able to
Response to restorefreedom (Reply #13)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:17 PM
16. Hmmmmmm....the Federal Marriage Amendment had failed twice already.
Response to restorefreedom (Reply #19)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:28 PM
24. That's not what I'm suggesting
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #24)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:36 PM
29. Bernie's vote against DOMA proves otherwise. That was in 1996.
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #24)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:39 PM
34. i have dates too
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while bmus beat me to it on doma
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1983 supported the first gay pride event in burlington, vt and helped pass the resolution to declare june 25 lesbian and gay pride day 1984 signed a resolution declaring that all levels of government should support gay rights. 1996 voted against DOMA I believe all these occurred before the date of your video. Care to try again? |
Response to restorefreedom (Reply #34)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:52 PM
46. Both of my IL Senators voted against DOMA
Response to Chitown Kev (Original post)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 12:42 PM
2. Clinton: "I believe marriage is not just a bond but a sacred bond between a man and a woman.
Response to Zorra (Reply #2)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 12:45 PM
3. I'm not a Hillary Clinton supporter (contrary to popular opinion)
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #3)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 12:51 PM
SMC22307 (7,932 posts)
5. This thread will be about whatever DUers want it to be.
Response to SMC22307 (Reply #5)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 12:55 PM
9. After the bullshit that was pulled on me yesterday?
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #9)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:13 PM
SMC22307 (7,932 posts)
14. Oh, dear. Lemme guess: Offensive post(s), hide(s), accusations of alert-stalking!11!
Response to SMC22307 (Reply #14)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:22 PM
20. I am known for "jumping right in the fray"
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #20)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:31 PM
SMC22307 (7,932 posts)
27. "Compliment."
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Sorry, I'm obnoxious that way.
Well, be careful with those hides, for you won't be able to get your message out. Unless, of course, your message is to prove how awful *useless white supremacist liberal* DUers are. You wouldn't be playing that game, now, would you? |
Response to SMC22307 (Reply #27)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:37 PM
31. Is that something like playing "race cards"?
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #31)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:57 PM
SMC22307 (7,932 posts)
48. I dunno. Ask those counting black and brown people at Sanders events...
Response to SMC22307 (Reply #5)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:05 PM
12. chafee and om support ss rights and marriage
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #3)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:42 AM
Warren DeMontague (80,708 posts)
135. right.
Response to Chitown Kev (Original post)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 12:51 PM
4. "Do you think NY State should recognize gay marriage"? Hillary: "NO".
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #23)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:16 PM
55. In 1996, Rep, Bernie Sanders voted against the Defense of Marriage Act, an act that
Response to Zorra (Reply #55)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:23 PM
61. I'm gay, yes...been OTC for a long time
Response to Chitown Kev (Original post)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 12:54 PM
brooklynite (79,438 posts)
8. Overtaken by events?
Response to SouthernProgressive (Reply #17)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:37 PM
30. Bernie didn't need to, he always supported civil rights for everyone. Unlike your candidate.
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #30)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:39 PM
33. The evidence of this video says otherwise.
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #33)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:40 PM
35. No, it doesn't. If he was against marriage equality he would have voted for DOMA.
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #35)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:45 PM
42. Barack Obama has never been FOR DOMA
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #42)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:54 PM
47. If you really want to bring Obama into this I have four words: Donnie McClurkin/Rick Warren.
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #47)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:58 PM
49. You can go for the 2009 DOMA brief, as well
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #49)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:00 PM
50. My point is that you brought Obama into this like he was a champion for lgbt people.
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #50)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:05 PM
51. For one, Obama has been a champion for LGBT people
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #51)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:06 PM
52. "But I can fairly assess what Obama's overall record is."
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #52)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:15 PM
MrScorpio (73,341 posts)
53. Oh, by the way, my cousin, ChitownKev, is an openly gay man
Response to MrScorpio (Reply #53)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:16 PM
54. As do I, but I have every right to defend smears against my candidate.
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #54)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:22 PM
MrScorpio (73,341 posts)
59. What does that even mean?
Response to MrScorpio (Reply #59)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:28 PM
62. He didn't claim that Bernie didn't support marriage equality in 2006?
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #62)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:41 PM
MrScorpio (73,341 posts)
66. Sanders in the video said that he supported civil unions and that marriage was a state issue
Response to MrScorpio (Reply #66)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:47 PM
68. Exactly, he didn't want the feds to overturn states' same sex marriage laws.
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #68)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:52 PM
69. Remember, one state already had same-sex marriage laws at that time
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #69)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:57 PM
72. I'm from Vermont, I know the history.
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #72)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:06 PM
77. I've researched that history
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #77)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:09 PM
79. Yes, Dean's decision to not have a public ceremony was disappointing
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #79)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:19 PM
86. Can't blame you for that... :)
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #86)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:20 PM
89. It was one hell of a party!
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Wish you could have been there!
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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #89)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:38 PM
101. We thought that we were going to have a similar party in Maine in 2009
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #101)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:44 PM
104. But as of this year voters can no longer deny you the right to marry the person you love.
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #104)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:51 PM
109. Remember, the EEOC has, in effect
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #109)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:55 PM
111. Oh Obama does get big kudos from me for that and his other stances against bigotry.
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #115)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 04:18 PM
117. When I heard him speak in 2004 I thought maybe...
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #117)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 04:32 PM
120. After Ohio was called, I asked my friend did she want to jump on
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #69)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:55 PM
virtualobserver (8,760 posts)
112. Bernie was concerned about the Federal government overturning the laws ALLOWING...
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #68)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:01 PM
MrScorpio (73,341 posts)
74. When Sanders said that he supported civil unions as a state's rights issue...
Response to MrScorpio (Reply #74)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:04 PM
76. I'm not going to argue against a strawman.
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #76)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:16 PM
MrScorpio (73,341 posts)
84. I'm using his own words...
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #87)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:27 PM
MrScorpio (73,341 posts)
92. What false claim are we making here?
Response to MrScorpio (Reply #92)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:29 PM
95. Because someone claimed he didn't support marriage equality in 2006.
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #95)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:35 PM
MrScorpio (73,341 posts)
98. Kev pointed out that in 2006, Sanders stood for civil unions as a states rights issue...
Response to MrScorpio (Reply #98)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:39 PM
102. But he then went on to make a positive claim.
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #102)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:48 PM
MrScorpio (73,341 posts)
107. He quite clearly said that he didn't want the feds to overturn state laws...
Response to MrScorpio (Reply #107)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:52 PM
110. sigh...
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I'm not going to try to disprove your theory anymore, I have made my case and if I can't change your mind then so be it.
This kind of debate is exhausting and there are other issues I'd like to discuss here on the DU. Plus I'm serving my first tour on MIRT and have been neglecting my duties. It's been a pleasure, MrScorpio.
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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #110)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:57 PM
MrScorpio (73,341 posts)
114. It's not a theory, it's his own words... In 2006.
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #82)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:18 PM
MrScorpio (73,341 posts)
85. Well, hell yeah...
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #52)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:19 PM
56. Bernie Sanders was asked, in the Vermont Senate debate of 2006
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #56)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:22 PM
58. Again there is no "evidence" that he didn't support marriage equality in 2006.
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #58)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:29 PM
63. When the state of Minnesota turned down an anti-gay marriage amendment in 2012
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #63)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:30 PM
64. Where is your evidence that Bernie didn't support marriage equality in 2006?
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #64)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:38 PM
65. Where's your evidence that he did?
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #67)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:01 PM
73. But you can't say that he did.
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #73)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:02 PM
75. Your claim that he didn't support marriage equality without any supporting evidence is a smear.
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #35)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:09 PM
dsc (51,221 posts)
78. there were plenty of politicians who publicly opposed marriage equality and voted against DOMA
Response to dsc (Reply #78)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:10 PM
80. Still not proof Bernie didn't support marriage equality in 2006.
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #80)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:11 PM
dsc (51,221 posts)
81. but his anti DOMA vote is no proof that he did
Response to dsc (Reply #81)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:14 PM
83. You guys made the claim that he didn't support marriage equality in 2006 and you can't back it up.
Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #100)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 04:31 PM
dsc (51,221 posts)
119. I am not saying Bernie is anti gay
Response to Chitown Kev (Original post)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:33 PM
28. Seriously? He didn't want the feds to be able to override the states who made ssm legal.
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I know what you're doing and why you're doing it but exploiting lgbt rights in a quest to get even with Bernie's supporters has been done already.
Don't take my word for it, read what a gay DUer thinks of Bernie's support: Pre-emptive: Sanders doesn't have a problem with LGBTers
Since the man's social justice bona fides are being turned into a weakness by surrogates, and we've been treated to his vast problems with African Americans, women, and now Latinos, I just wanted to get out in front before you see someone like Joe Solmonese on TV telling everyone that Bernie Sanders doesn't care enough about LGBT people. Bernie Sanders is one of the finest politicians in American history when it comes to LGBT rights. His opponents cannot even compare themselves or their records with a straight face. So before we experience yet another part of the Democratic coalition divided up as a weapon instead of a valued community, I just wanted to note that Sanders will never have a problem with the LGBT community. We owe him a lot of gratitude for sticking up for us when it was not the easy or popular thing to do. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251563640 And then there's the fact that his votes prove he was in favour of marriage equality before 2006: 32 Years Before Marriage Equality, Bernie Sanders Fought For Gay Rights
But these are only very recent developments. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton may be champions of same-sex marriage now, but you don’t have to go far back to find a time when they weren’t. And hey, we’re happy to have their evolved support. Not only did Sanders vote against the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996 which defined marriage as between one man and one woman, signed into law by then-president Bill Clinton — an unpopular position then — a look back at Sanders’ political career shows consistent support of the gay rights movement. Even when it was more than just unpopular, it was downright controversial. “In our democratic society, it is the responsibility of government to safeguard civil liberties and civil rights — especially the freedom of speech and expression,” Sanders wrote later in a memo. “In a free society, we must all be committed to the mutual respect of each others lifestyle.” ... “It is my very strong view that a society which proclaims human freedom as its goal, as the United States does, must work unceasingly to end discrimination against all people. I am happy to say that this past year, in Burlington, we have made some important progress by adopting an ordinance which prohibits discrimination in housing. This law will give legal protection not only to welfare recipients, and families with children, the elderly and the handicapped — but to the gay community as well.” http://www.queerty.com/32-years-before-marriage-equality-bernie-sanders-fought-for-gay-rights-20150719 On LGBT Rights, Bernie Leads and Hillary Follows
Of course, Clinton has since evolved on LGBT rights, as many have. That's wonderful. But the problem is, she only came out in support of marriage equality after it was not politically risky to do so. In fact, by 2013 - the year Clinton announced her full support for marriage equality - Democratic support for same-sex marriage was the norm, not the exception. On such an important moral issue that affects my life and the lives of thousands of other Americans, making decisions in this manner is rather despicable. Additionally, Clinton's habit of doing what polls deem politically popular is the reason why so many voters find her inauthentic. Now, if Clinton were the only option for the Democratic presidential nomination, I would understand why we should support her despite these flaws. But she isn't the only option. Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, the longest-serving Independent in the history of Congress, is also running for the nomination. And unlike Clinton, his record on LGBT rights is historically excellent. Sanders voted against DOMA, one of the few members of Congress to do so, at a time when such a stance was not politically popular. Four years after DOMA passed, Sanders helped champion Vermont's decision in 2000 to become the first state to legalize same-sex civil unions. This set a national precedent for LGBT equality achieved via legislative means. In 2009, when Vermont became the first state to allow marriage equality through legislative action rather than a court ruling, Sanders expressed his support once again. Truly, Sanders has been a real leader on LGBT rights, even if this leadership isn't recognized in the way that Clinton's current support is. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-novak/on-lgbt-rights-bernie-lea_b_7662682.html Bernie Sanders Was for Full Gay Equality 40 Years Ago
Today’s Supreme Court decision was a monumental moment in American history, as it guaranteed the right for gays and lesbians to get married and established full marriage equality. Many politicians offered their words of support, including President Obama and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton. Yet it is important to remember that Obama and Clinton both opposed marriage equality as late as early 2012. It is a testament to the work of thousands of activists over decades that the political class was pulled towards supporting equality. There is however one prominent politician who did not wait so long to call for full gay equality: Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) In a letter he published in the early 1970’s, when he was a candidate for governor of Vermont from the Liberty Union Party, Sanders invoked freedom to call for the abolition of all laws related to homosexuality: http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/bernie-sanders-was-full-gay-equality-40-years-ago Sanders: I was ahead of the curve on gay rights
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Saturday he has been waiting for the nation to catch up to his support for same-sex marriage. Sanders’ remarks come a day after Friday’s landmark 5-4 Supreme Court ruling legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide. He argued he was well ahead of the historic decision, unlike Hillary Clinton, his main rival for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination. ... Sanders at the time served in the House of Representatives, which voted 342-67 in favor of DOMA. The Senate voted 85-14 in favor, before former President Bill Clinton signed it into law. “That was an anti-gay marriage piece of legislation,” he added of the law that defined marriage at the federal level as the coupling of one man and one woman. Sanders on Saturday praised Americans for creating greater opportunities for same-sex couples. Friday’s Supreme Court ruling, he charged, was not possible without national pressure for gay rights. “No one here should think for one second this starts with the Supreme Court,” Sanders said. “It starts at the grassroots level in all 50 states,” he said. “The American people want to end discrimination in all its forms.” http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/246370-sanders-i-was-ahead-of-the-curve-on-gay-rights Bernie Sanders was decades ahead of the country on gay rights and ending the war on drugs
Most Americans now support legally allowing gay and lesbian relationships, same-sex marriage, and personal marijuana use after decades of shifting public opinion. But one Democratic candidate for president, Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, was calling for many of these changes decades ago. In a 1972 letter to a local newspaper — which was recently resurfaced by Chelsea Summers at the New Republic — Sanders wrote that he supported abolishing "all laws dealing with abortion, drugs, sexual behavior (adultery, homosexuality, etc.)" as part of his campaign for Vermont governor: These stances were far removed from public opinion at the time, according to Gallup surveys on marijuana and gay and lesbian rights. In 1972, 81 percent of Americans said marijuana should be illegal — which suggests even more would favor the prohibition of more dangerous drugs like cocaine and heroin. In 1977, the earliest year of polling data, 43 percent of Americans said gay and lesbian relations between consenting adults should not be legal, while 43 percent said they should be legal. ... But it took decades for the American public to come around to majority support on these issues: It wasn't until 2013 that a majority of Americans supported marijuana legalization, the early 2000s that most consistently responded in favor of legal gay and lesbian relations, and 2011 that a majority first reported backing same-sex marriage rights. Sanders has carried many of these positions to this day. He was one of the few federal lawmakers to vote against the Defense of Marriage Act, the federal ban on same-sex marriages, in the 1990s. And while he told Time's Jay Newton-Small in March that he has no current stance on marijuana legalization (but backs medical marijuana), he characterized the war on drugs as costly and destructive. http://www.vox.com/2015/7/7/8905905/sanders-drugs-gay-rights Bernie Sanders' Views On Gay Marriage Show He's Been A Supporter For A Long Time
Now that he's officially announced he will seek the Democratic nomination for president and challenge Hillary Clinton, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders will be talking about his positions on major issues on the campaign trail, and one very big issue he has championed for years is gay marriage. Sanders, unlike some of his potential Republican opponents, seems like he would not turn down an invitation to a gay wedding (and he might actually get invited to one). In 1996, then-Representative Sanders voted against the Defense of Marriage Act, which barred recognition of gay marriage at the federal level (DOMA was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 2013). Sanders' and his home state of Vermont were the first to legalize same-sex unions in 2000, at first recognizing them as civil unions. Gay marriage has been legal in Vermont since 2009, and as The New York Times reported, Vermont was the first state to pass legislation in support of same-sex marriage, rather than in reaction to a court ruling. On Tuesday, as the Supreme Court took up the issue of gay marriage, Sanders issued a statement on his website reaffirming his support, saying gay Americans in every state should be allowed to marry. Of course all citizens deserve equal rights. It’s time for the Supreme Court to catch up to the American people and legalize gay marriage. http://www.bustle.com/articles/79951-bernie-sanders-views-on-gay-marriage-show-hes-been-a-supporter-for-a-long-time Is Bernie Sanders the Most LGBT-Friendly Candidate?
Bernie Sanders, the longest-serving independent member of Congress, is officially seeking the Democratic nomination for president in 2016, the Vermont senator announced in an email to supporters this morning. "People should not underestimate me," Sanders told the Associated Press in an interview that broke the news of his candidacy Wednesday night. "I've run outside of the two-party system, defeating Democrats and Republicans, taking on big-money candidates and, you know, I think the message that has resonated in Vermont is a message that can resonate all over this country." The self-described "Democratic socialist" wants to challenge the business-as-usual trend of big money in politics that he says dominates the current candidates — including Hillary Clinton. The thrust of Sanders's campaign thus far — like his political career as the mayor of Burlington, Vt., 16 years in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the past seven in the U.S. Senate — has focused on supporting working-class Americans through elevated taxes on the wealthy and correcting income inequality "which is now reaching obscene levels," he told the AP. But Sanders has also been a steadfast and reliable supporter of LGBT equality, supporting the Employment Non-Discrimination Act when it passed the Senate in 2013 and even calling on President Obama to evolve already and support marriage equality in 2011. He's a cosponsor of the federal LGBT-inclusive Student Non-Discrimination Act and has consistently voted against bills seeking to amend the Constitution to ban same-sex marriage, while cosponsoring a bill that would repeal the remaining portions of the so-called Defense of Marriage Act. Sanders has a perfect score of 100 percent on the Human Rights Campaign's latest Congressional Equality Index. http://www.advocate.com/politics/election/2015/04/30/bernie-sanders-most-lgbt-friendly-candidate And before you whip out the article from sevendays that's already been debunked too, there was no interview with Bernie. There's no there there, but nice try. You get a cookie. 
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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #36)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:44 PM
39. He doesn't need to he voted against DOMA in 1996. He was for marriage equality then.
Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #94)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:46 PM
106. Carol Moseley Braun (my former Senator and a hot mess) and Al Sharpton
Response to restorefreedom (Reply #38)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:45 PM
40. Thank you, they're going to have to do better than I think = it's true.
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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #40)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:47 PM
44. do you mean
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A does equal Q just cuz i say so?
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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #28)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 01:49 PM
45. Fellow Bernistas: Feel free to copy and use my post verbatim every time someone pulls this bullshit.
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Bookmark it and don't give up!
Go Bernie! 
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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #91)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:27 PM
93. Prism totally rocks.
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And so do you, Blue.
You have a memory like a steel trap and a real talent for calling out hypocrisy. 
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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #90)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:26 AM
132. Kickety kicking this because once again someone is claiming Bernie opposed same sex marriage.
Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #132)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 05:17 AM
136. But I never claimed that he opposed it
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #136)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 05:20 AM
137. No, you didn't. The blogger at Slate and MADem made that claim.
Response to Chitown Kev (Original post)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 08:55 PM
123. Bernie has a great record of support for LGBTQ people
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #124)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 09:50 PM
125. I think Hillary, Bernie, or Martin would all be fine for LGBTQ people honestly.
Response to Chitown Kev (Original post)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 10:00 PM
126. I don't think Sanders has ever opposed SSM
Response to jfern (Reply #126)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 10:04 PM
127. It's very possible that Sanders never opposed SSM
Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #127)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 10:32 PM
130. Well for comparison, Hillary was a SSM opponent in early 2013
Response to jfern (Reply #130)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 10:44 PM
131. Well...to some extent
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