Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:25 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
Sanders supporters: Do you hate former Secretary Hillary Clinton?
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68 replies, 2902 views
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cyberswede | Aug 2015 | OP |
CaliforniaPeggy | Aug 2015 | #1 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #12 | |
Vinca | Aug 2015 | #2 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #11 | |
left-of-center2012 | Aug 2015 | #40 | |
left-of-center2012 | Aug 2015 | #41 | |
PatrickforO | Aug 2015 | #54 | |
short circuit | Aug 2015 | #3 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #14 | |
Kali | Aug 2015 | #4 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #13 | |
hrmjustin | Aug 2015 | #5 | |
Ed Suspicious | Aug 2015 | #55 | |
fadedrose | Aug 2015 | #6 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #15 | |
TheFarS1de | Aug 2015 | #7 | |
sabrina 1 | Aug 2015 | #10 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #20 | |
nadinbrzezinski | Aug 2015 | #8 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #16 | |
nadinbrzezinski | Aug 2015 | #19 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #21 | |
nadinbrzezinski | Aug 2015 | #22 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #23 | |
nadinbrzezinski | Aug 2015 | #24 | |
magical thyme | Aug 2015 | #9 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #17 | |
last1standing | Aug 2015 | #18 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #29 | |
last1standing | Aug 2015 | #31 | |
Tierra_y_Libertad | Aug 2015 | #25 | |
GoneFishin | Aug 2015 | #27 | |
SamKnause | Aug 2015 | #26 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #30 | |
Arugula Latte | Aug 2015 | #28 | |
PeteSelman | Aug 2015 | #32 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #35 | |
last1standing | Aug 2015 | #33 | |
ibegurpard | Aug 2015 | #45 | |
Arugula Latte | Aug 2015 | #63 | |
MoveIt | Aug 2015 | #66 | |
bigwillq | Aug 2015 | #34 | |
cherokeeprogressive | Aug 2015 | #36 | |
840high | Aug 2015 | #37 | |
Android3.14 | Aug 2015 | #38 | |
tularetom | Aug 2015 | #39 | |
RufusTFirefly | Aug 2015 | #58 | |
left-of-center2012 | Aug 2015 | #42 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #43 | |
MisterP | Aug 2015 | #44 | |
MrMickeysMom | Aug 2015 | #46 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #50 | |
dionysus | Aug 2015 | #47 | |
John Poet | Aug 2015 | #48 | |
AgingAmerican | Aug 2015 | #49 | |
Luminous Animal | Aug 2015 | #51 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #53 | |
PatrickforO | Aug 2015 | #52 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #56 | |
daleanime | Aug 2015 | #57 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #59 | |
daleanime | Aug 2015 | #62 | |
napi21 | Aug 2015 | #60 | |
Laffy Kat | Aug 2015 | #61 | |
HeiressofBickworth | Aug 2015 | #64 | |
olddots | Aug 2015 | #65 | |
WI_DEM | Aug 2015 | #67 | |
cyberswede | Aug 2015 | #68 |
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:27 PM
CaliforniaPeggy (136,152 posts)
1. Of course, I don't.
Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #1)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:16 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
12. Me neither. nt
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:28 PM
Vinca (45,695 posts)
2. What is the point of this poll? It seems you're going for a certain response.
Can't we just prefer one candidate over the other with no hate involved?
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Response to Vinca (Reply #2)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:15 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
11. Of course. I read on DU that Sanders supporters hate Clinton, so I thought I'd ask.
Response to Vinca (Reply #2)
left-of-center2012 This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to Vinca (Reply #2)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 08:24 PM
left-of-center2012 (26,220 posts)
41. What is the point of this poll? It seems you're going for a certain response.
"Show usernames"
Maybe someone's collecting names? ![]() |
Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #41)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:46 PM
PatrickforO (12,296 posts)
54. Why in the heck would she collect names?
To what end?
This is the DU member formerly known as PatrickforO.
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:29 PM
short circuit (145 posts)
3. Don't hate her person, but hate her politics
Nuff said.
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Response to short circuit (Reply #3)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:18 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
14. I don't even hate her politics. I just disagree on some issues.
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:31 PM
Kali (51,104 posts)
4. nope
don't hate her supporters either.
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:31 PM
hrmjustin (71,265 posts)
5. I hate repuublican moles.
Response to hrmjustin (Reply #5)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:46 PM
Ed Suspicious (8,879 posts)
55. So do I.
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:35 PM
fadedrose (10,044 posts)
6. Wrong Verb
Change hate to "distrust," "suspect," "tired of," "dislike the baggage of," but "hate," NO
I wish her well. She has worked hard to what end I don't know. I don't particularly want to see Bill as first lady... |
Response to fadedrose (Reply #6)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:19 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
15. I read on DU that people hate her, so that's why I used that word.
I suspect most DUers don't hate her at all, but I thought I'd ask.
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:38 PM
TheFarS1de (1,017 posts)
7. This shod be pulled . Nothing but flame bait .
Response to TheFarS1de (Reply #7)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:04 PM
sabrina 1 (62,325 posts)
10. Yes, any op that implies that Democrats on this forum 'hate' candidates simply because they do
not agree with them, should be locked. You are right, just flamebait.
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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #10)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:22 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
20. I didn't intend flamebait. I hoped to demonstrate that most DUers don't hate her.
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:39 PM
nadinbrzezinski (154,021 posts)
8. More flame bait
And quite divisive shit
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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #8)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:20 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
16. I didn't intend for flamebait. I was hoping to demonstrate that most DUer don't hate her.
Response to cyberswede (Reply #16)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:21 PM
nadinbrzezinski (154,021 posts)
19. From now on I will point to it
that is a promise.
The scabs from 2008 are now off and we nave new deep wounds. That is the damage being done. So with that. divisive flame bait. |
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #19)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:26 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
21. Not sure I get what you mean.
You'll point to what?
I don't have any wounds from 2008, so I don't understand what you mean. When DUers claim that other DUers hate Clinton, I think they're incorrect. I certainly don't hate her, and I assume most other people don't, either. So, I thought I'd find out. |
Response to cyberswede (Reply #21)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:28 PM
nadinbrzezinski (154,021 posts)
22. Ok, I will translate it
the divisions after the highly divisive campaign of 2008 never quite healed. Now those wounds are deeper.
I know that I have been called some lovely things, so with that I will call it. This is divisive shit and should stop. It is not going to stop, I do not expect it. But it will leave even deeper wounds. And with that, have fun with your OP |
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #22)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:30 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
23. Pointing out that DUers DON'T hate Clinton will cause deeper wounds?
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Response to cyberswede (Reply #23)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:32 PM
nadinbrzezinski (154,021 posts)
24. Read the responses you got
I was not the only one to see this as divisive.
Have fun For the record, at this point I am starting to dislike a particular group HERE ON DU beyond just disliking them. And it has to do with the divisive shit they keep doing. |
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:45 PM
magical thyme (14,881 posts)
9. I don't trust her and don't like many of her policies.
I try not to hate anybody.
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Response to magical thyme (Reply #9)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:21 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
17. Me neither. nt
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:21 PM
last1standing (11,709 posts)
18. I don't hate her, but I also don't trust her to advocate for my interests.
She never stood up for marriage equality when we needed her. She isn't standing up for reigning in multi-national corporations, she isn't standing up against fracking or Keystone XL. She won't stand up against TPP or other trade agreements that cost jobs and limit our ability to regulate corporate abuses.
Hate has nothing to do with it. |
Response to last1standing (Reply #18)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:26 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
29. To me it isn't even trust. I believe she means well.
I just don't think she gets what it's like for regular Americans - how the transfer of wealth & power to the 1% really hurts everyone.
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Response to cyberswede (Reply #29)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:35 PM
last1standing (11,709 posts)
31. I don't think she actively wants to harm me or my loved ones.
But I do believe that when the choice comes down to it, she will make an informed choice to further her interests at the expense of mine, even if my interests are dire needs and hers are merely the desire for the accumulation of more wealth and power.
As I stated in another thread, she had no problem coming out for marriage equality - as soon as it was absolutely safe to do so and not a moment sooner. I don't think she wants to hurt the LGBT community, but she wanted the presidency and it may never have occurred to her that real people were dying and losing everything they ever owned because of her lack of support. Again, I don't hate her, I distrust her greatly. |
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:45 PM
Tierra_y_Libertad (50,414 posts)
25. The opposite of both love and hate is indifference.
To me she's just another ambitious, professional politician who is ready to do anything to WIN!!
Call me proactively indifferent. |
Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #25)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:59 PM
GoneFishin (5,217 posts)
27. I think she is jockying for a new job, not looking for a way to help the country.
And I think the advisers who surround her are the same. Once the campaign is over her interest in helping the voters will move to the bottom of the list, or maybe fall completely off the list.
And as for liberal voters, the party will move their concerns into the column reserved for "retarded dirty hippies". |
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:51 PM
SamKnause (12,160 posts)
26. I disagree with her policies and the
direction she wants to take this country.
I don't feel she represents the needs of the people. I think she is more interested in pleasing Wall Street, CEO's, the MIC, and corporations. |
Response to SamKnause (Reply #26)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:31 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
30. I think she truly cares about people, but I think she doesn't get how effed up things are under...
the status quo, and how radically things need to change. I don't blame her, most politicians don't get it.
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:11 PM
Arugula Latte (50,566 posts)
28. I don't hate her.
She does make me cringe, though.
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:37 PM
PeteSelman (1,508 posts)
32. Hate I reserve for the Cheneys, Walkers and Cruzs
I dislike her politics and I think she's only in it for personal gain but I don't hate her.
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Response to PeteSelman (Reply #32)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:40 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
35. Yes, I'll admit to hating those assholes, too.
They are malevolent.
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:37 PM
last1standing (11,709 posts)
33. LOL! The posters who "hate" Hillary are her own supporters!
There may be something Freudian there.
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Response to last1standing (Reply #33)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:36 PM
ibegurpard (16,397 posts)
45. do people not realize
That everyone can see the voters?
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Response to last1standing (Reply #33)
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:01 AM
Arugula Latte (50,566 posts)
63. Well, well, well.
Very interesting.
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Response to last1standing (Reply #33)
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:58 PM
MoveIt (399 posts)
66. Darn they were busted!
I'm sure they'll say it was a "protest vote" Who else from the recent political landscape is cool with electoral fraud?
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:38 PM
bigwillq (72,790 posts)
34. I do not hate her, although I strongly dislike her (nt)
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:43 PM
cherokeeprogressive (24,853 posts)
36. I have to know someone who's done me terrible wrong in order to hate them.
I gots not a bit of love for her though.
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:54 PM
840high (17,196 posts)
37. I loved Hillary in '08. Now no
longer think she's best for us. No hate involved - just found a better candidate.
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:02 PM
Android3.14 (5,402 posts)
38. Of course not. She's simply damaged
The pragmatic recognitionthat HRC has compromised herself beyond any hope of representing the people is something other than hate. It's a bit like recognizing when you can no longer trust a sibling because she is addicted to drugs or traveled too long down a path from which there is no return.
Hate? No. Profound sadness for her and her supporters and a commonsense commitment to support a true representative of the people? Definitely. Bernie is one of the good guys. |
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:03 PM
tularetom (23,664 posts)
39. No, I don't hate anyone
I sort of dislike her but more than anything else I pity her.
She isn't presidential material and from the sort of joyless way she conducts her campaign you can tell her heart isn't in it. She just does not look comfortable with being a public person. |
Response to tularetom (Reply #39)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:50 PM
RufusTFirefly (8,812 posts)
58. Me neither
I don't even hate Cheney or Putin. I try very, very hard not to hate anyone. Hate, when aimed at people, does absolutely nothing beneficial.
I do hate push polls, however. |
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 08:28 PM
left-of-center2012 (26,220 posts)
42. Huh? Say what?
Is this to entice Sanders supporters to say something bad about Hillary?
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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #42)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 08:31 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
43. No. I was hoping to demonstrate that Sanders supporters don't hate her.
Edit to add: I'm a Sanders supporter myself.
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:30 PM
MisterP (23,730 posts)
44. she's got a lot of blood on her hands: I can't choose any option
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:37 PM
MrMickeysMom (20,453 posts)
46. Here's a new twist… Bullshit that is Divisive
Response to MrMickeysMom (Reply #46)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:41 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
50. What's divisive are all the accusations that Sanders supporters hate Clinton. I think most don't...
so I asked.
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:59 PM
dionysus (26,467 posts)
47. nope. dislike her as a politician. i bet if i go to hang out with the clintons for a day we'd get
along just fine.
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:35 PM
John Poet (2,510 posts)
48. You left out "No, but I'm starting to hate
some of her supporters."
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:37 PM
AgingAmerican (12,958 posts)
49. I think she's fine but I like Sanders better
nt
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:44 PM
Luminous Animal (27,310 posts)
51. Hating is a right wing pile of shit. Disagreeing on policy is not hating.
Do I hate Republicans. No I do not. I disagree with them on near every policy that they promote.
Do I hate Hillary. No I do not. I disagree with her on crucial matters that are important to me. |
Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #51)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:46 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
53. I agree. nt
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:45 PM
PatrickforO (12,296 posts)
52. I do hate her wishy-washiness on some issues, the fact that she's a poll driven candidate, and
that she has neocon/neolib tendencies. I intensely dislike her stance on TPP (she's a creator of it, along with other 'free traders').
But I don't hate Clinton the person. Not at all. This is the DU member formerly known as PatrickforO.
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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #52)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:47 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
56. Me neither. nt
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:48 PM
daleanime (17,796 posts)
57. Have you ever hated former Secretary Hillary Clinton in the past?
Do you plan to hate former Secretary Hillary Clinton in the future?
Do you just like typing former Secretary Hillary Clinton? |
Response to daleanime (Reply #57)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:54 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
59. You must have missed this:
Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) is a man who has always advocated for the underdogs, for women, for minorities. And so it’s exceptionally ironic and troubling that his campaign is being hijacked by priggish, self-satisfied, angry white progressives. The elitist, misogynistic kind whose myopic priorities are pot laws and the privacy of their emails. Oh, and their zealous, rabid hate for former Secretary Hillary Clinton.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=539502 |
Response to cyberswede (Reply #59)
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:01 AM
daleanime (17,796 posts)
62. I would never do such a thing....
by accident.
Now, on purpose, that's a whole other thing. ![]() |
Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:57 PM
napi21 (45,367 posts)
60. Of course not! I not only like her but I respect her and her abilities.
I am supporting Bernie because he supports almost al the changes I'd love to see made to our Country, but I also recognize that it's going to be a tough uphill battle for him to win the Dem nomination. If he doesn't win, I have no problem supporting Hillary and will do so with all the gusto I can possibly muster.
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:57 PM
Laffy Kat (13,526 posts)
61. I am fine with both HRC and her supporters!
As a Democrat I will vote for the Demo. candidate. I prefer Bernie but am not inflexible. Also, terrified of what will happen to the country under another Repub. president.
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:20 AM
HeiressofBickworth (2,682 posts)
64. At this stage of the process
I have a choice of who should be the Democratic Party nominee. Although I admire her accomplishments, I don't agree with some of her policy positions so I am supporting Sen. Sanders. If, however, she becomes the nominee, I will definitely vote for her in the general election. No hate involved at any level.
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:35 PM
olddots (10,237 posts)
65. To me Hillary became a pop star and I didn't
She won't hang out with me anymore because she made and I didn't .Stupid analogy but its all I have ,I don't hate but she hurt me.
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Response to cyberswede (Original post)
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 01:00 PM
WI_DEM (33,497 posts)
67. Why even ask such a loaded question?
Response to WI_DEM (Reply #67)
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 01:14 PM
cyberswede (26,117 posts)
68. Because I read on DU how Sanders upoorters hate Clinton, so I thought I'd ask.
This article made me wonder:
Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) is a man who has always advocated for the underdogs, for women, for minorities. And so it’s exceptionally ironic and troubling that his campaign is being hijacked by priggish, self-satisfied, angry white progressives. The elitist, misogynistic kind whose myopic priorities are pot laws and the privacy of their emails. Oh, and their zealous, rabid hate for former Secretary Hillary Clinton.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=539502 --- on edit: I'm a Sanders supporter who doesn't hate her; I presume most Sanders supporters don't hate her. |