2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI Just Want To Make It Clear One For All ,
There are women supporting Bernie .
There are monority-background people also with Bernie
Not following Third Way orthodoxy by bowing to the entiteled candidate, Mrs Hillary Clinton DOES NOT MEAN you are "racist" or " sexist" or , worst, a Republican.
By the way never heard of Democratic-Socialist "Republicans
I am well aware this is an old strategy designed to dismiss any countender to the powerfull "Clinton Machine". It has been used already in 2008. And as a too déjà-vu strategy, sorry to say dear Clinton people, but it doesnt worked anymore . ( even in 2008 it didnt worked so well, after all: Otherwise we would not have Président Obama sitting in Oval Office)
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)The fact that you support Clinton doesn't mean you are a 1%er or corporatist or Republican or anything else. I remember the old "Republican lite" strategy from Nader in the 2000 election.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)accomplishment or state that she would be nothing without her husband's popularity,which you did here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=523795
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)many don't even notice they are taking part. Women themselves take part. It is a failure in education followed up by a failure to learn on ones own.
'You want me to tell you what my husband thinks? My husband is not secretary of state; I am. If you want my opinion, I will tell you my opinion. I am not going to be channeling my husband.'
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)I would have loved to see Elizabeth Warren to run. Not only because she is a woman. Its because she cares about people, not because name recognition. As a French citizen, I have voted for Segolene Royal in 2007, the then Socialist nominee. I also voted Green Party candidate and former anti-corruption magistrate Eva Joly in firts presidential round, because I felt her politically honest. Then on secound round my vote got to Hollande to block Sarkozy.
I vote for a person because he/she fits my political vision. Women and men are equally qualified to lead.
But I don' t like Hillarys politics. The fact she simply is a woman dont come in consideration. Playing the old sexist arguments is unusefull. She is "entitled" and chosen by WS "Dems" She does not care about people needs. She is shady. That is all.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Thanks for the reply.
Still, thanks for clearing up what I thought was clear to everyone. Then again, some fools here claimed Hillary beat up an old man and snubbed a mother with a daughter with cancer. Some are so stupid. I guess a few think everything needs to be cleared up. I wouldn't pander to them in this manner. It is going down to their level. While I have never seen anyone needing this cleared up, it's nice you are doing it out of the possibility someone out there believes it. Good job. I'm sure someone somewhere does believe it and I hope they read your op.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)Nontheless I felt in your post you were , although very politely and I thank you for that, implying I might be somewhat "sexust soft" so I thought necessaey to clarify.
Many of DU HRC supporters here, unfortunely, use too often the "s"word toward other candidates supporters. That is a fait accompli.
Peace.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)If you refer to her by a title, it should be (former) Secretary. If a person spent 16 years in the house, 12 years in the Senate, then retired, they would be referred to as (former) senator.
MuseRider
(34,095 posts)from either side is just looking for a fight.
People support their candidates for many reasons or don't like the others for lots of reasons.
I would call the candidates what they are but not their supporters.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)any other candidate' s supporter who opposes Hillary staged supremacy?
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)...alternatives. This infighting is just stupid. Support your candidate based on their stances on the issues and lets all vote how we want. I'm supporting Bernie myself. But I won't have a big sad if I ended up pulling the level for Hillary Clinton or Martin O'Malley in November 2016.
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Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)and they will!