2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPrinceton Election Consortium: Obama 332 EV, Romney 206 - Obama wins 51% popular vote.
http://election.princeton.edu/President: Obama vote share 51.5 +/- 0.2 %, Obama 332 EV to Romney 206 EV. Current evaluation: Obamas going to win. As of today its 7 sigma (huge). For November I still give him 7-1 odds, favorable.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)a kennedy
(29,647 posts)Just kinda curious. Thanks.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)You can go back and look through their '08 predictions.
Their final prediction had Obama winning 352 electoral votes to McCain's 186 - in the end, Obama exceeded their expectations.
To give you a better indication this far out, on July 30th, 2008, this was their prediction:
Our graphics arent quite up yet, so here are todays unadorned results. Based on 137 polls (up to 3 per state), the current median outcome is Obama 306 EV, McCain 232 EV (95% confidence intervals Obama [275,327], McCain [211,263]. The Popular Meta-Margin is Obama +3.1%. For an explanation of what these quantities mean, see the old site.
So, Obama is doing better today than he was at the end of July four years ago.
a kennedy
(29,647 posts)thank you.
Rosanna Lopez
(308 posts)51% is a pretty small share of the popular vote when you think about it.
Very depressing.
A win is a win, but to see almost half the country vote for a vile individual like Romney does not bode well for the future of humanity.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)As the only presidents in modern American history to receive a majority of the vote in both elections are Eisenhower & Reagan.
Nixon received 43% in '68 and 60.7% in '72. Carter received 50% in '76 and 41% in '80. Reagan received 50% in '80 and 58% in '84. Bush received 53% in '88 and 37% in '92. Clinton received 43% in '92 and 49% in '96. Bush received 48% in '00 and 50% in '04.
51% amounts to an electoral landslide. So, I'll take it.
Hawaii Hiker
(3,165 posts)Even Reagan didn't get 60% in 1984, when he won everywhere but DC and Minnesota (think he got 58%)...LBJ did get 60% in his 1964 route...
In this day & age with the deep political divides, I'll gladly take Obama 51%, or more importantly, 270 EV's...
fujiyama
(15,185 posts)"Johnson, who had successfully associated himself with Kennedy's popularity, won 61.1% of the popular vote, the highest won by a candidate since 1820."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1964
Romney is a much bigger lunatic than Goldwater (but so was Bush and arguably Reagan was as well), and has fewer principles. At least Goldwater was honest about his nuttiness. Romney is a snake and perhaps the biggest liar to have run for the office.
But then again '64 was a very unique election, coming less than a year after an assassinated president. I'm reading the Caro book now. It's fascinating...
Hawaii Hiker
(3,165 posts)Even Goldwater had some moderate views, namely on social issues....
Romney would go far right on every issue, and truly would take us back to the 12th century...
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)What is that supposed to mean?
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)DavidDvorkin
(19,473 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Meaning 7 standard deviations? Greater than 99% chance, assuming normal distribution?