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Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:25 PM

I have a theory about a republican evolution of thought regarding a possible newtie nomination.

Apparently some of those "expert" pundits are relaying that many in the republican establishment are now considering President Obama as very hard to beat after the SOTU last night.

I'm so glad that they are giving us the benefit of their 2.1 broadcast school GPA experience to state the obvious.

I believe that the republican establishment may soon start seeing advantages to gingrich taking a whalloping over bain romney getting HIS ass handed to him.

1. It isn't unusual for a party that knows that losing an election is inevitable to let an older person with no political future take the loss and save someone WITH a future FOR the future. Think bob dole in 1996.

2. It would be very satisfying personally for the many republicans who detest gingrich to see him get clobbered by the black guy they hate. It would also certainly prove to the racist base that he can't "keep them in their place".

3. They could purge the teabaggers. Certainly the establishment is starting to see that this was a marriage made in hell that they're starting to sincerely regret. Since it's well known that bain romney doesn't like the baggers, his loss wouldn't accomplish that. There is precedent for this. It happened with the republicans after the 1964 election and to us after the 1972 election. Party establishment will frequently use a humiliating loss to clean house of the perceived extremists. The republican establishment knows that they MUST move closer to the center if they want to see the inside of the White House again from any angle other waiting to shake the President's hand in a reception line.

Let me add here that I was a McGovernite in 1972. On the one hand, The centrist/moderate Democratic leaders were very unfair in their judgements of George McGovern. On the other hand we WERE obnoxious.

Anyway, that's my perspective. I've run it up the flagpole. Maybe some of you will salute, maybe some of you will pee on the pole.

PEACE!

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Reply I have a theory about a republican evolution of thought regarding a possible newtie nomination. (Original post)
MarianJack Jan 2012 OP
Liberal Veteran Jan 2012 #1
MarianJack Jan 2012 #3
3waygeek Jan 2012 #19
MarianJack Jan 2012 #20
Vincardog Jan 2012 #2
MarianJack Jan 2012 #4
treestar Jan 2012 #5
MarianJack Jan 2012 #6
FogerRox Jan 2012 #7
MarianJack Jan 2012 #9
renie408 Jan 2012 #8
renie408 Jan 2012 #10
MarianJack Jan 2012 #12
MarianJack Jan 2012 #11
brooklynite Jan 2012 #13
MarianJack Jan 2012 #18
Little Star Jan 2012 #14
MarianJack Jan 2012 #17
WCGreen Jan 2012 #15
MarianJack Jan 2012 #16

Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:29 PM

1. A well thought out analysis, though the title threw me. -nt

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Response to Liberal Veteran (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:30 PM

3. It wasn't one of my best titles.

Also, "thought" is a pretty foreign concept for 2012 rethugs.

PEACE!

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Response to MarianJack (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:41 PM

19. So is "evolution" n/t

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Response to 3waygeek (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:36 PM

20. Very true.

Too bad about thos little things like science and carbon dating.

Who needs them when you've got an old testament that you never actually read, as most fundie/teabaggers haven't. Come to think of it, reading is foreign to them, too.

I always love dealing with a fundie and seeing the poorly concealed look of panic at the moment they realize that I know the Bible beter than they do.

PEACE!

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:29 PM

2. I believe the GOP has given up on their clown car candidates, they

just have to chose who hurts them less.

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Response to Vincardog (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:32 PM

4. However,...

...Maybe a worse beating with the 2 woman man would be more advantageous for the reasons I outlined.

Maybe little ricky santorum could even tell them to make the best of a bad situation.

PEACE!

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:33 PM

5. Some interesting thoughts

The Repubs have to be considering their lack of anyone desirable as damaging.

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Response to treestar (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:34 PM

6. Damaging...

...and damning.

PEACE!

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 03:03 PM

7. I think you get the basic premise right

KnR

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Response to FogerRox (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 03:19 PM

9. Thanks...

...for the K&R!

PEACE!

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 03:07 PM

8. This is exactly what I told my husband last night. Well, not exactly..

I didn't have the historical references, but I told him that it was almost like the RNC has already just given up on this election. They don't have anybody they care about running, so they are just going to wait this one out.

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Response to renie408 (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 03:21 PM

10. This thread reminded me of something else the DH and I were discussing...

None of our usually hyper staunch GOP neighbors or friends is really all that excited about anybody this election cycle. They are unanimous in disliking Obama, but any questions about the GOP field of candidates generates, at most, a shrug and an 'eh'. They don't like Obama, but they don't like their candidates, either.

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Response to renie408 (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 03:25 PM

12. So much for that teabagger enthusiasm, eh?

PEACE!

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Response to renie408 (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 03:24 PM

11. It does make you wonder.

I remember in 1998, when I lived in Pennsylvania, the Democratic establishment knew that it had NO chance of beating tom ridge for re-election. They nominated a retireing state representative in his late 70s as the sacrificial lamb.

In his first term, I didn't think that ridge was bad for a republican. My opinion of him started to evolve when he started running negative attack ads against that sarificial lamb.

When he was in george w moron's cabinet, we all saw what a snake he was capable of being.

PEACE!

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 03:44 PM

13. I don't agree...

Gingrich as the figurehead risks huge loses downballot. If you're going to lose, better to run a loyal placeholder against a promise of support in the 2016 race.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 06:13 PM

18. I see your point,...

...but why saddle a placeholder with a loss if you want him to be the 2016 nominee?

Also, those downticket losses would almost certainly be teabaggers that the establishment probably wants to get rid of in the first place.

PEACE!

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 05:16 PM

14. I have to admit this primary has been fun to watch!..

May the teaparty keep up this comedy and give Noot the nod in the end. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face!

It will be wonderful to see Obama sweep the floor with his sorry ass in the general!

Let the show go on!

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Response to Little Star (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 06:10 PM

17. My prayer is...

...a rethug bloodbath with a nomination of a little ricky santorum/michelle bachman ticket.

PEACE!

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 05:42 PM

15. My main memory of 1972...

was having to stay up to the wee hours of the night to hear McGovern's speech...

What a freaking disaster that was....

I was just going into the tenth grade and even I knew that wasn't a good sign.

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 06:09 PM

16. That convention was a disorganized mess.

The post-convention bounce went to freakin' NIXON!

The sad thing is that McGovern gave a great speech. Come Home America!

PEACE!

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