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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 04:25 PM Aug 2015

A lot of Bernie supporters are sore and bitter about what happened in Seattle

but you gotta remember that he's running for President.

Running for President is hard and not everyone is going to fall in love with your candidate.

Obama was smeared as a Kenyan-born Marxist Muslim who pals around with terrorists. He toughed it out.

The media establishment along with pretty much the entire Republican Party is going after Hillary at the moment. She was attacked in the most recent GOP debate countless times. I don't think Bernie's name even came up.

A couple of protesters disrupting an event? That's childs play.

Bernie has had it easy so far.

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A lot of Bernie supporters are sore and bitter about what happened in Seattle (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 OP
The plot thickens. One of the women looks to be a FUNDY operative. TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #1
(Imagine I'm Jon Stewart): "Go on...." n/t winter is coming Aug 2015 #2
Updated initial post above. Time will tell. It's best to stay reserved. nt TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #3
Agreed, but it sounds... interesting. n/t winter is coming Aug 2015 #10
Then why is any breath of criticism about Hillary called hating, bashing, sexist, and why are djean111 Aug 2015 #4
The big money media establishment going after Clinton? Skwmom Aug 2015 #5
I also don't recall a Clinton or Obama speech being commandeered by protesters. REC this thread! TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #8
You lie dsc Aug 2015 #16
That was an outburst, not taking the podium and microphone from the speaker! TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #17
I remember JackInGreen Aug 2015 #43
Have you see Chris Matthews talk about Bernie? Red Knight Aug 2015 #41
demanding that a Jewish man who lost cali Aug 2015 #6
Except no one called him a white supremacist. Lancero Aug 2015 #21
Google Youtube. They were calling him a zionist, white supremacist. n/t Skwmom Aug 2015 #22
They used the hash tag FreePalestine too. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #24
Yes they did. 840high Aug 2015 #28
Here's what I found... Lancero Aug 2015 #46
here and other places on the net 840high Aug 2015 #56
How unsuprising... Lancero Aug 2015 #58
Then google for yourself. So I guess you 840high Aug 2015 #59
Googled it, got nothing about anyone saying Sanders is a supremacist Lancero Aug 2015 #60
they sure the Hell did. And the name of the action was bow down benie cali Aug 2015 #44
this needs to be on a frickin neon sign restorefreedom Aug 2015 #32
Why is that surprising? jberryhill Aug 2015 #51
I didn't say it was surprising. I said it was wrong cali Aug 2015 #55
And a lot of supporters of the other candidates are over the moon! artislife Aug 2015 #7
You think that protester shoulda been"groomed" by the GOPers? Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #9
Palin supporter, too. 840high Aug 2015 #27
They attack Hillary because thay want her to win the nomination. That way whatever Vincardog Aug 2015 #11
But it wasn't Obama's fellow-Democrats calling him "a Kenyan-born Marxist Muslim" 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #12
Yep Andy823 Aug 2015 #20
And what is the essential difference here? ljm2002 Aug 2015 #13
Hillary needs the Black vote. If it was the Republicans, they'd be going after Hillary. Skwmom Aug 2015 #23
much too obvious bbgrunt Aug 2015 #14
Well, one says they support Palin and other women, the other's acquaintance says to distract Bernie. TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #15
did obama get all pouty and leave the stage in a huff? nt msongs Aug 2015 #18
No. And neither did Bernie, but thanks for your dishonesty. n/t winter is coming Aug 2015 #25
gotta love revisionism. nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #30
When was Obama flanked by two people shouting anything at him? jberryhill Aug 2015 #52
A lot of PEOPLE are sore and bitter about what happened ibegurpard Aug 2015 #19
Agree 100%! GitRDun Aug 2015 #26
Why don't they protest at the White House. ? 840high Aug 2015 #31
#BLM cant just jump the White House fence and walk right up to Obama, however Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #33
"Obama did not pause his speech or acknowledge the interruption. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #40
"A few of the demonstrators were removed by state troopers, and the rest agreed to remain silent." Red Knight Aug 2015 #42
I'm old. I came to hear about Social Security Lifelong Protester Aug 2015 #29
sure. lets see hillary supporters brush it off restorefreedom Aug 2015 #34
Queen Hillary? NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #36
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #38
Queen Hillary? leftynyc Aug 2015 #47
when she comes out her billionaire cocoon, restorefreedom Aug 2015 #49
I don't care what you do leftynyc Aug 2015 #61
no freeper here but i don't see a big difference restorefreedom Aug 2015 #62
I have NEVER insulted Bernie leftynyc Aug 2015 #63
i never said you insulted him restorefreedom Aug 2015 #65
Bernie Sanders came out looking better. NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #35
Still smarting after being duped by a Palin-loving fundie #BLMer? WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #37
I'm smarting? What on Earth are you going on about? Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #39
The other poster is likely going on about that piece of shit Republican disruptor in Seattle. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #57
After rereading I realized you likened BLM's actions to racist Repug's smears of Obama aikoaiko Aug 2015 #45
There is a difference kenfrequed Aug 2015 #48
It's sad watching BLM marginalize themselves AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #50
And so many of us aren't. LWolf Aug 2015 #53
After the NN, O'Malley met with BLM and he listened to them. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #54
Uh huh. And Bernie's record of protesting was for civil rights. Vinca Aug 2015 #64
Bernie responded badly after NN, did he have a big problem last night, no, he has listened to BLM, Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #66

TheBlackAdder

(28,076 posts)
1. The plot thickens. One of the women looks to be a FUNDY operative.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 04:31 PM
Aug 2015

.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027060303



The other's acquaintance talks about throwing Bernie a "sheepdog's bone" to keep him distracted until it's too late.


I guess it was too early to gloat.

.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. Then why is any breath of criticism about Hillary called hating, bashing, sexist, and why are
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 04:37 PM
Aug 2015

those who support other candidates called anti-Hillary or Hillary haters? Do you honestly think she should be above the fray? That she Must Not Be Criticized? That no one could possibly not support Hillary unless they hated her?

For me, it is not so much the interruption, but the gleeful piling on that Bernie was finished. From people who consider any criticism of Hillary to be Hate and Bashing.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
5. The big money media establishment going after Clinton?
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 04:38 PM
Aug 2015

Obviously you haven't been watching CNN and MSNBC.

If the media were really going after Clinton, the Swiss bank deal and other dealings would be common knowledge.

TheBlackAdder

(28,076 posts)
8. I also don't recall a Clinton or Obama speech being commandeered by protesters. REC this thread!
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 04:43 PM
Aug 2015

.

Keep this linke of attack on Bernie active in the discussion list.


.

dsc

(52,130 posts)
16. You lie
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 06:54 PM
Aug 2015

does that sound at all familiar? It was shouted at Obama during the State of the Union but no he never had a speech taken over, not at all.

TheBlackAdder

(28,076 posts)
17. That was an outburst, not taking the podium and microphone from the speaker!
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 06:57 PM
Aug 2015

.

Every meeting has some dolt who yells out... not taking the stage to the point of stopping the speaker!

They had the stage for over 20 minutes...

.

Red Knight

(704 posts)
41. Have you see Chris Matthews talk about Bernie?
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:28 AM
Aug 2015

He looks like he just got done eating something that disagreed with him. He seems personally offended that this "socialist" should dare challenge Clinton in the Democratic primary. He believes Bernie has no chance, is being built up by people and that it is heresy to even suggest that he should be in the race with Clinton.

Why that guy--whose rating suck year in and year out--remains the face of political coverage for that network, is beyond me and a good reason why the network struggles.

He is clear establishment politics. Don't dare try to change anything. Give him a centrist anytime.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. demanding that a Jewish man who lost
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 04:40 PM
Aug 2015

most of his paternal family to the holocaust, bow down, grovel before you and publicly apologize for unspecified crimes against poc, I is vile sick shit. Period. Calling him a white supremacist is beyond the pale. Screaming, shoving and declaring that white liberals and progressives are far more racist than white cons, is delusional, but hey what can you expect from someone who is a Palin fan.

Lancero

(2,983 posts)
21. Except no one called him a white supremacist.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:48 PM
Aug 2015

I've seen people saying that he has some WS's supporting him, but nothing where someone calls him a white supremacist. Still though, care to link to what you've seen?

Lancero

(2,983 posts)
46. Here's what I found...
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 04:34 PM
Aug 2015
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=blm%20calls%20sanders%20a%20white%20supremacist

The only link going to something calling Sanders a white supremacist is - ironically - a topic here. The only thing I can find saying that he is a supremacist is a topic here that is pulling the bogus he said she said routine.
 

840high

(17,196 posts)
56. here and other places on the net
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:18 PM
Aug 2015

Black Lives Matter Protesters Shut Down Bernie Sanders ...
www.politicususa.com/.../black-lives-matter-protesters-shut-bernie-sande...
2 days ago - The Senator did not get to address the crowd after protesters ... but you did it for me,” accusing the audience of “white supremacist liberalism.” ... White progressive Seattle and Bernie Sanders cannot call ... The exchanges between the white liberals and Black Lives Matter have gotten ugly on both sides.

Lancero

(2,983 posts)
58. How unsuprising...
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:22 PM
Aug 2015

The 'link' doesn't even work, and the bits of article you gave me outright says the comments were to the AUDIENCE and NOT Sanders himself.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
59. Then google for yourself. So I guess you
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:12 PM
Aug 2015

think it's ok to say that to people that support Sanders?

Lancero

(2,983 posts)
60. Googled it, got nothing about anyone saying Sanders is a supremacist
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:47 PM
Aug 2015
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=blm%20calls%20sanders%20a%20white%20supremacist

Though I'd already posted this a couple above.

Few more with differing terms.

As I've said - Plenty of results about people saying that some of his supporters are supremacists - I'm not denying this, this was said - but nothing where someone calling Sanders a Supremacist.

Everyone here says that BLM called him a White Supremacist. But everything I've found shows that the 'White Supremacist' label was applied to his supporters, not him.

Seriously, I've asked a half dozen times already - Where's the proof? You've made these claims, many have made these claims, but everything I've found seems to point to people misatributing the statement that BLM made.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
44. they sure the Hell did. And the name of the action was bow down benie
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:27 AM
Aug 2015

I've already posted the raw video in this forum. Find it. watch it.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
32. this needs to be on a frickin neon sign
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 01:04 AM
Aug 2015

those disruptors treatment of bernie, esp with his family history, was vile and loathesome.

but hey if they are palinites, they learned from the best.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
51. Why is that surprising?
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:59 PM
Aug 2015

Would it be surprising coming from, say, the Nation of Islam?

They regularly "explain" that Jews controlled the slave trade, and that Jewish progressives are out to do all manner of evil.

It's not as if being anti-semitic is the exclusive province of white people.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
11. They attack Hillary because thay want her to win the nomination. That way whatever
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 04:44 PM
Aug 2015

the general outcome is BIG MONEY WINS.

They won't mention Bernie for the same reason some people don't want Debates:
They don't want voters to hear his POLIICIES.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
12. But it wasn't Obama's fellow-Democrats calling him "a Kenyan-born Marxist Muslim"
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 04:46 PM
Aug 2015

Unless BLM is weirdly working with the GOP, they are fellow-Democrats.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
20. Yep
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:01 PM
Aug 2015

His "fellow democrats" here on DU called him a "F'ing POSUCS" that got hundreds of rev's by those who also claim to be democrats. I guess that was all OK, right? Lets also no forget the one about him being a "trojan horse" candidate, that was OK to I guess.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
13. And what is the essential difference here?
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 05:03 PM
Aug 2015

The attacks on Barack Obama calling him names were from his known, longstanding political opponents -- Republicans.

The attacks on Hillary Clinton were and are from her known, longstanding political opponents -- Republicans.

The attacks on Bernie Sanders are coming out of left field by a movement called Black Lives Matter that are certainly not Republicans, nor would one have supposed them to be Sanders' political opponents. One might have expected them to support the candidate with the longest and most consistent record on civil rights and racial equality, or at least to have been as angry at the other candidates as they are at him. Instead, they have singled him out for attack.

After the Netroots Nation action, BLM stated they would be going after ALL of the candidates. But that is not what happened, is it? Instead, Sanders and only Sanders is being attacked, right on his strongest point, in an election where any Democratic candidate needs to carry the black vote. Smells like a Swiftboating to me.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
23. Hillary needs the Black vote. If it was the Republicans, they'd be going after Hillary.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 12:15 AM
Aug 2015

When something doesn't make sense I always ask - who benefits.

TheBlackAdder

(28,076 posts)
15. Well, one says they support Palin and other women, the other's acquaintance says to distract Bernie.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 06:51 PM
Aug 2015

.


She now comes off as a Conservative, an inept feminist, or a misguided BLM supporter. (Or all of the above)


Her points about Sanders do not hold water, which gives credence to wanting to influence the Hillary campaign.


Clinton better step up and finally denounce this pair's actions. She's been pretty quiet about it.

.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
19. A lot of PEOPLE are sore and bitter about what happened
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 07:51 PM
Aug 2015

In Seattle. You don't call a city a bunch of white supremacists and then expect them to listen to you.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
33. #BLM cant just jump the White House fence and walk right up to Obama, however
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 01:05 AM
Aug 2015

They have protested Obama before:

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/03/07/3631178/black-lives-matter-protesters-interrupt-obama-selma/

It seems like some folks here only get angry when Bernie is disrupted.

aikoaiko

(34,127 posts)
40. "Obama did not pause his speech or acknowledge the interruption.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:09 AM
Aug 2015

You can't even hear the protestors in the video of Obamas speech.


Yeah. That's comparable.

Red Knight

(704 posts)
42. "A few of the demonstrators were removed by state troopers, and the rest agreed to remain silent."
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:33 AM
Aug 2015

So that's how Obama dealt with them.

How would it look if Bernie had troopers hauling them off?

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
29. I'm old. I came to hear about Social Security
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 01:01 AM
Aug 2015

and Medicare for All. So yes, I'm "sore and bitter".

Disrespecting elders.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
34. sure. lets see hillary supporters brush it off
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 01:07 AM
Aug 2015

when a fringe disruptor does it to her..

oh, that's right. queen hillary only appears in insulated, prescreened, $2700 per plate schmoozefests.

never mind, then..

Response to restorefreedom (Reply #34)

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
47. Queen Hillary?
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 04:38 PM
Aug 2015

Nice right wing freeper language. And people wonder why the only thing that will bring Bernie down are his supporters.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
49. when she comes out her billionaire cocoon,
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:03 PM
Aug 2015

speaks to something other than $2700 per plate fundraisers, is willing to have a debate before OCTOBER, and takes positions on issues, i will rethink the title.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
61. I don't care what you do
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:13 AM
Aug 2015

Want to use right wing freeper language , knock yourself out. Just pointing out the worst thing about Bernie are many of those who support him.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
62. no freeper here but i don't see a big difference
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 10:48 AM
Aug 2015

in policy between her and some republicans, not the crazies, the centrists. when she stops acting like mitt romney, then maybe people will think of her differently.

since you don't like candidates being insulted, i imagine you were one of the first people to come out in defense of bernie when the disruptors called him a white supremacist and told him to bow down. i hope so.





 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
63. I have NEVER insulted Bernie
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:11 AM
Aug 2015

Not ever, not even once. My comment history is there for you to investigate, if you like. I have no beef with Bernie. It's many of his supporters here on DU that are the absolute worst thing about him. Frankly, I take comfort in that DU does not represent Democrats in any way, shape or form.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
65. i never said you insulted him
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:05 PM
Aug 2015

I said after you came to Hillary's defense, that I would've hoped that you also would've come to Bernie's defense when others here were supporting the disruptors calling him a racist.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
35. Bernie Sanders came out looking better.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 01:27 AM
Aug 2015

Sanders is an old gentleman who maintained his dignity and walked away. The BLM women are bullies who harassed an old man who was invited to speak at the event.

BIG screw-up by the BLM attention seekers.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
37. Still smarting after being duped by a Palin-loving fundie #BLMer?
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 01:38 AM
Aug 2015

Me? I'm feeling really good tonight. REALLY good.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
57. The other poster is likely going on about that piece of shit Republican disruptor in Seattle.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:40 PM
Aug 2015

You didn't see that worthless Republican fuckface troll Sanders' speech on Saturday? You should check it out. She hoodwinked a few gullible people here--but not many. Anyway, it turns out this dumbass was a Sarah Palin supporter. Anyway, that's my guess about what the other poster was on about.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
48. There is a difference
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:00 PM
Aug 2015

There is a difference between being attacked by Republicans who we all are fighting the good fight against and having people that are on the same side politically saying blatant untruths about your candidate.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
50. It's sad watching BLM marginalize themselves
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:51 PM
Aug 2015

They do more damage to themselves than to anyone else. It's pretty pathetic what they have turned into.

"Obama was smeared as a Kenyan-born Marxist Muslim who pals around with terrorists." - Thanks for noticing the parallel~

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
53. And so many of us aren't.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:06 PM
Aug 2015

Not that I'd expect you to acknowledge that. It would be out of character.

There's a lot of sore and bitter to go around in the U.S. right now, from a lot of people and a lot of groups.

As far as primary politics goes? Bernie isn't the candidate that comes to mind, and I think he's handled protesters just fine.

Is that what GDP is about, for you? To talk about other candidates' supporters?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
54. After the NN, O'Malley met with BLM and he listened to them.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:07 PM
Aug 2015

Hillary has also listened to BLM. I have a feeling this will continue to occur to Bernie until he listens to their issues. Bernie sure is not the first candidate to be heckled by protesters, etc and even Bernie had a record of protesting.

Vinca

(50,170 posts)
64. Uh huh. And Bernie's record of protesting was for civil rights.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:00 PM
Aug 2015

He's been listening to their issues for more than 50 years and been arrested more than once over them. Maybe the current protesters should do a little research on their targets. Or maybe they did since Bernie doesn't have Secret Service protection like that other candidate.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
66. Bernie responded badly after NN, did he have a big problem last night, no, he has listened to BLM,
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:09 PM
Aug 2015

this could have been solved before Seattle, gotta think fast on one's feet.

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